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Post by themikefest on Oct 19, 2019 16:08:31 GMT
Ah yes, choosing the blue. Choose what TIM wanted. Does that mean siding with Cerberus? If my Shepard were to choose the blue, never, she/he would have the reapers help rebuild Earth and all the human colonies. After that, fly the reapers into the sun. No more reapers. No more threat. No chance of the thing, the former human called Shepard, becoming corrupt to start harvesting organics.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 19, 2019 16:10:08 GMT
Ah yes, choosing the blue. Choose what TIM wanted. Does that mean siding with Cerberus? If my Shepard were to choose the blue, never, she/he would have the reapers help rebuild Earth and all the human colonies. After that, fly the reapers into the sun. No more reapers. No more threat. No chance of the thing, the former human called Shepard, becoming corrupt to start harvesting organics. But self preservation instinct would have stopped him.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 19, 2019 16:10:37 GMT
Ah yes, choosing the blue. Choose what TIM wanted. Does that mean siding with Cerberus? If my Shepard were to choose the blue, never, she/he would have the reapers help rebuild Earth and all the human colonies. After that, fly the reapers into the sun. No more reapers. No more threat. No chance of the thing, the former human called Shepard, becoming corrupt to start harvesting organics. But self preservation instinct would have stopped him. Not to mention that the AI IS NOT SHEPARD!
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 19, 2019 16:17:13 GMT
Not to mention that the AI IS NOT SHEPARD! That is true. Only Shepard is Shepard. And that entity died at the beginning of ME2.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 19, 2019 16:26:15 GMT
Ah yes, choosing the blue. Choose what TIM wanted. Does that mean siding with Cerberus? If my Shepard were to choose the blue, never, she/he would have the reapers help rebuild Earth and all the human colonies. After that, fly the reapers into the sun. No more reapers. No more threat. No chance of the thing, the former human called Shepard, becoming corrupt to start harvesting organics. But self preservation instinct would have stopped him. If that's the case, why did the thing mention the blue and red as options for Shepard to choose?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 19, 2019 16:58:53 GMT
But self preservation instinct would have stopped him. If that's the case, why did the thing mention the blue and red as options for Shepard to choose? Which is another problem I have with the endings. If the Reapers/Starkid don't care about living, why do anything? Might as well commit sudoku, in that case. There is no reason for Starkid to lead you to blue or red. And if Shepard reaching Starkid and the Crucible's existence changes everything (?) why do the Reapers keep fighting? It's essentially instant game over for them. Why does Shepard have to make the call? Anybody can make it to the Crucible, at that point. If the Starkid is so enthused with the prospects the Crucible presents, why make it so difficult for the organics to reach it? None of it needs to be as hard as the Starkid and the Reapers make it to be. And a million other things that I ... Just. Gah! I don't want to have this argument again, least of all with myself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 17:01:54 GMT
Ah yes, choosing the blue. Choose what TIM wanted. Does that mean siding with Cerberus? If my Shepard were to choose the blue, never, she/he would have the reapers help rebuild Earth and all the human colonies. After that, fly the reapers into the sun. No more reapers. No more threat. No chance of the thing, the former human called Shepard, becoming corrupt to start harvesting organics. ... and you'd be able to that.. destroy the Reapers. The control ending is still "on your own terms." It doesn't matter if TIM wanted control over the Reapers as well. He didn't want to destroy them. That you can shows that you're not doing what TIM wanted. The reason the Reapers cannot stop you from taking control and then destroying them is the fact that they don't control you. TIM being already controlled by the Reapers was the very reason he could not take control... even though his purpose in wanting to do so was to not destroy them. The Reaper "self-preservation" cannot kick in BECAUSE they don't control you.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2019 17:11:09 GMT
If that's the case, why did the thing mention the blue and red as options for Shepard to choose? Which is another problem I have with the endings. If the Reapers/Starkid don't care about living, why do anything? Might as well commit sudoku, in that case. There is no reason for Starkid to lead you to blue or red. And if Shepard reaching Starkid and the Crucible's existence changes everything (?) why do the Reapers keep fighting? It's essentially instant game over for them. Why does Shepard have to make the call? Anybody can make it to the Crucible, at that point. If the Starkid is so enthused with the prospects the Crucible presents, why make it so difficult for the organics to reach it? None of it needs to be as hard as the Starkid and the Reapers make it to be. And a million other things that I ... Just. Gah! I don't want to have this argument again, least of all with myself. It’s seppuku, not sudoku. Seppuku is a form of ritual suicide. Sudoku is a puzzle game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 17:11:18 GMT
But self preservation instinct would have stopped him. Not to mention that the AI IS NOT SHEPARD! "I'm still me. I doubt that I would have been able to turn on Cerberus otherwise.... but maybe I'm just a high-tech AI that thinks it's Commander Shepard."
The game outright tells us that an AI directed by Shepard's thoughts and memories, would still be Shepard. The clone in the Citadel DLC was missing Shepard's memories and didn't actually think like Shepard either... therefore it was "not Shepard."
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 19, 2019 17:28:59 GMT
Which is another problem I have with the endings. If the Reapers/Starkid don't care about living, why do anything? Might as well commit sudoku, in that case. There is no reason for Starkid to lead you to blue or red. And if Shepard reaching Starkid and the Crucible's existence changes everything (?) why do the Reapers keep fighting? It's essentially instant game over for them. Why does Shepard have to make the call? Anybody can make it to the Crucible, at that point. If the Starkid is so enthused with the prospects the Crucible presents, why make it so difficult for the organics to reach it? None of it needs to be as hard as the Starkid and the Reapers make it to be. And a million other things that I ... Just. Gah! I don't want to have this argument again, least of all with myself. It’s seppuku, not sudoku. Seppuku is a form of ritual suicide. Sudoku is a puzzle game. I know. It's a joke.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2019 17:30:51 GMT
It’s seppuku, not sudoku. Seppuku is a form of ritual suicide. Sudoku is a puzzle game. I know. It's a joke. Mmhmm, sure you did.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 19, 2019 17:33:09 GMT
Not to mention that the AI IS NOT SHEPARD! "I'm still me. I doubt that I would have been able to turn on Cerberus otherwise.... but maybe I'm just a high-tech AI that thinks it's Commander Shepard."
The game outright tells us that an AI directed by Shepard's thoughts and memories, would still be Shepard. The clone in the Citadel DLC was missing Shepard's memories and didn't actually think like Shepard either... therefore it was "not Shepard."
This is a very nice question that is raised in the game SOMA. Recommend.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 19, 2019 17:41:59 GMT
Well, if you were joking I guess I should at least be thankful you weren’t making light of rape and sexual assault victims like one of your recent jokes so progress I suppose.
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Post by Phantom on Oct 19, 2019 18:36:41 GMT
Well, if you were joking I guess I should at least be thankful you weren’t making light of rape and sexual assault victims like one of your recent jokes so progress I suppose. Well Like it or not, some people have a very dark sense of humor. it is alright to ask if the person is joking....I do admit in having a very flexible sense of humor.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 19, 2019 19:40:16 GMT
Instead of lying about making an unfunny and pointless joke, wouldn't it have been easier to just blame autocorrect?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 19, 2019 19:50:54 GMT
Well, if you were joking I guess I should at least be thankful you weren’t making light of rape and sexual assault victims like one of your recent jokes so progress I suppose. Thank you. That was a beautiful thing to say.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 19, 2019 20:08:47 GMT
Well, if you were joking I guess I should at least be thankful you weren’t making light of rape and sexual assault victims like one of your recent jokes so progress I suppose.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 19, 2019 20:26:55 GMT
Not to mention that the AI IS NOT SHEPARD! "I'm still me. I doubt that I would have been able to turn on Cerberus otherwise.... but maybe I'm just a high-tech AI that thinks it's Commander Shepard."
The game outright tells us that an AI directed by Shepard's thoughts and memories, would still be Shepard. The clone in the Citadel DLC was missing Shepard's memories and didn't actually think like Shepard either... therefore it was "not Shepard."
False. The entire trilogy has made it clear that organics and synthetics are fundamentally different. Even if an AI had Shepard's memories archived, the mental functions of a synthetic mind operate differently from an organic brain. The emotional connections to those memories and experiences would be lost. Heck you can even hear that in the detached manner of the AI's final speech in the Control ending. It's no more Shepard than the Shepard VI in the docking bay was. The Shepard clone was not Shepard for the same reason you are not your sibling, even an identical twin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 23:46:14 GMT
"I'm still me. I doubt that I would have been able to turn on Cerberus otherwise.... but maybe I'm just a high-tech AI that thinks it's Commander Shepard."
The game outright tells us that an AI directed by Shepard's thoughts and memories, would still be Shepard. The clone in the Citadel DLC was missing Shepard's memories and didn't actually think like Shepard either... therefore it was "not Shepard."
False. The entire trilogy has made it clear that organics and synthetics are fundamentally different. Even if an AI had Shepard's memories archived, the mental functions of a synthetic mind operate differently from an organic brain. The emotional connections to those memories and experiences would be lost. Heck you can even hear that in the detached manner of the AI's final speech in the Control ending. It's no more Shepard than the Shepard VI in the docking bay was. The Shepard clone was not Shepard for the same reason you are not your sibling, even an identical twin. I disagree that the tone of Shepard's speech says that the AI would do anything different that what Shepard would have done. You're jumping from it is an AI to it is an evil Reaper AI that would undermine everything Shepard wants to do without proof of that. We are shown that Shepard does take control... the Reapers cease the harvest immediately. If the Catalyst was still in control of the Reapers they would continue to do what the Catalysts wanted... which is to harvest everyone. IF the Reapers themselves were in control of themselves (that is that the Catalyst did not have control over them to start with) then they would continue to do what they wanted to do... which is to harvest everyone (per Sovereign).
The Catalyst image evaporates as it relinquishes control to Shepard. Shepard's AI is in control and it does what Shepard wanted... which was, regardless of how the player played the game, to stop the Reapers. That is shown to us to be accomplished by Control. What happens after that is totally up to imagination of the players. You can imagine something evil happening... but THAT is still ending the game on YOUR OWN TERMS... because you're the one imagining that scenario.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 20, 2019 1:12:27 GMT
False. The entire trilogy has made it clear that organics and synthetics are fundamentally different. Even if an AI had Shepard's memories archived, the mental functions of a synthetic mind operate differently from an organic brain. The emotional connections to those memories and experiences would be lost. Heck you can even hear that in the detached manner of the AI's final speech in the Control ending. It's no more Shepard than the Shepard VI in the docking bay was. The Shepard clone was not Shepard for the same reason you are not your sibling, even an identical twin. I disagree that the tone of Shepard's speech says that the AI would do anything different that what Shepard would have done. You're jumping from it is an AI to it is an evil Reaper AI that would undermine everything Shepard wants to do without proof of that. We are shown that Shepard does take control... the Reapers cease the harvest immediately. If the Catalyst was still in control of the Reapers they would continue to do what the Catalysts wanted... which is to harvest everyone. IF the Reapers themselves were in control of themselves (that is that the Catalyst did not have control over them to start with) then they would continue to do what they wanted to do... which is to harvest everyone (per Sovereign).
The Catalyst image evaporates as it relinquishes control to Shepard. Shepard's AI is in control and it does what Shepard wanted... which was, regardless of how the player played the game, to stop the Reapers. That is shown to us to be accomplished by Control. What happens after that is totally up to imagination of the players. You can imagine something evil happening... but THAT is still ending the game on YOUR OWN TERMS... because you're the one imagining that scenario. The AI doesn't have t be an "evil Reaper" But it is an AI, which is fundamentally different from an organic. And it is still NOT Shepard in any event. It doesn't have to undermine Shepard's wishes, simply reinterpret them. Something likely t happen if it was an organic, let alone a synthetic being. And again Shepard does NOT take control. Shepard dies. Something else with access to Shepard's memories takes control. And every ending makes it clear that THIS is the new sheriff in town
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 1:23:21 GMT
I disagree that the tone of Shepard's speech says that the AI would do anything different that what Shepard would have done. You're jumping from it is an AI to it is an evil Reaper AI that would undermine everything Shepard wants to do without proof of that. We are shown that Shepard does take control... the Reapers cease the harvest immediately. If the Catalyst was still in control of the Reapers they would continue to do what the Catalysts wanted... which is to harvest everyone. IF the Reapers themselves were in control of themselves (that is that the Catalyst did not have control over them to start with) then they would continue to do what they wanted to do... which is to harvest everyone (per Sovereign).
The Catalyst image evaporates as it relinquishes control to Shepard. Shepard's AI is in control and it does what Shepard wanted... which was, regardless of how the player played the game, to stop the Reapers. That is shown to us to be accomplished by Control. What happens after that is totally up to imagination of the players. You can imagine something evil happening... but THAT is still ending the game on YOUR OWN TERMS... because you're the one imagining that scenario. The AI doesn't have t be an "evil Reaper" But it is an AI, which is fundamentally different from an organic. And it is still NOT Shepard in any event. It doesn't have to undermine Shepard's wishes, simply reinterpret them. Something likely t happen if it was an organic, let alone a synthetic being. And again Shepard does NOT take control. Shepard dies. Something else with access to Shepard's memories takes control. And every ending makes it clear that THIS is the new sheriff in town Getting back to the point though... YOU are still ending the game on your own terms. What you've been objecting to here is that I am also ending the game on my own terms... interpreting the game and the story we're shown in my own way. Proving that each player ends the game on their own terms... no need to express "pity." You find the obstacles in your path because you put them there.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 20, 2019 2:05:19 GMT
The AI doesn't have t be an "evil Reaper" But it is an AI, which is fundamentally different from an organic. And it is still NOT Shepard in any event. It doesn't have to undermine Shepard's wishes, simply reinterpret them. Something likely t happen if it was an organic, let alone a synthetic being. And again Shepard does NOT take control. Shepard dies. Something else with access to Shepard's memories takes control. And every ending makes it clear that THIS is the new sheriff in town Getting back to the point though... YOU are still ending the game on your own terms. What you've been objecting to here is that I am also ending the game on my own terms... interpreting the game and the story we're shown in my own way. Proving that each player ends the game on their own terms... no need to express "pity." You find the obstacles in your path because you put them there. False. I wanted a galaxy free of the Reapers. Not ruled by robo-Shepard. Not forced assimilation with them. I wanted a galaxy free to find its own path.. And the only path to that forces Shepard to become a worse minster than Saren. I found this an absolutely disgusting way to end a five year trilogy and found Bioware bizarrely tone-deaf in not seeing such a reaction far in advance. Unlike you, I can't simply ignore details in the story to put a better spin on things.
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Post by Spectr61 on Oct 20, 2019 8:24:25 GMT
Yes.
Shep destroys, crawls out from the rubble, finds a stasis pod, pops out into the next cycle ala Javik, and proceedes to coach the new cycle in the use of Liara's Beacons to learn about, and finally destroy the Reaps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 13:15:01 GMT
Getting back to the point though... YOU are still ending the game on your own terms. What you've been objecting to here is that I am also ending the game on my own terms... interpreting the game and the story we're shown in my own way. Proving that each player ends the game on their own terms... no need to express "pity." You find the obstacles in your path because you put them there. False. I wanted a galaxy free of the Reapers. Not ruled by robo-Shepard. Not forced assimilation with them. I wanted a galaxy free to find its own path.. And the only path to that forces Shepard to become a worse minster than Saren. I found this an absolutely disgusting way to end a five year trilogy and found Bioware bizarrely tone-deaf in not seeing such a reaction far in advance. Unlike you, I can't simply ignore details in the story to put a better spin on things. The Paragon control ending does not indicate that "robo-Shepard" rules the galaxy or even that he wants to rule the galaxy. He controls the Reapers only and wants to save the many. The first thing he does is have them repair the damage done by the war. What he does after that is up to the player. If the player decides that "the next story" about The Shepard is that he shut down or destroyed the Reapers and "retired" someplace tropical... the ending absolutely allows for such an interpretation. If the player wants to give the Reapers themselves free will (presumeably after obtaining assurances from them personally that they don't want to fight organics), the player can absolutely head canon that it because there is nothing in the endings or slides that says he could not have done that. He is given control over the Reapers to do with them as he sees fit. He is not given control over organics or anything except the Reapers. The organics and other synthetics in the galaxy (like EDI and the geth) retain their free will.
Furthermore, the Shepard you play as from the beginning of ME2 may not be Shepard in that, as he says, he may just be a "high-tech VI that thinks he's Commander Shepard.
Unlike you, I am not about to throw unnecessary obstacles in my own path that you claim prevent you from enjoying a game that I really do enjoy playing. Don't pity me... I pity you. I'm already ending this game on "my own terms." You're also ending it on "your own terms"... holding a grudge against the devs for all these years... and then still complaining even after using a mod. What Bioware did re ME3's endings is 7 years in the past... and they also every right to end their Trilogy on their own terms.
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