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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 5, 2020 16:06:40 GMT
If Jacob dies in Mass Effect 2 then Jacob is not there in Mass Effect 3. That sounds like a consequence to me. Good. And if the Quarians in the Flotilla died, none of them show up, either and Legion is still dead. Sounds good but I hope to see a flourishing Quarian race if they didn't die. I don't need a Quarian squadmate. I just need to see a flourishing Quarian race, and a flourishing Krogan race(if I picked the genophage). I don't need Wrex or Tali as squadmates though - that's fine. People move on and do other things - that's life.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 5, 2020 16:22:48 GMT
I just need to see a flourishing Quarian race, and a flourishing Krogan race Like actually visiting and seeing Rannoch and Tuchanka outside of a small hub that is literally 5 rooms and 3 corridors? When has Bioware ever shown you that? And, according to John Epler, this would be relegated to another one of those 90% of "bad" choices that are the "best" available choices at the time. In the case of Rannoch, you'd be inside a semi-disassembled ship, that could also just as well be damaged, depending on whether Quarians lived or died, either with a few Quarians in it, a few Geth, or Quarians with Geth. In the case of the Krogan, you'd visit a small ruin of a town with 5 krogan, if you didn't cure the Genophage, 8 krogan if you cured it and no baby krogan, because that's too much model work to be done. Or they'd just shrink down an adult krogan model to size. MVP stands for Minimum Viable Product in Bioware and that's what they'll continue to do. Unless we push them to do more. And if they don't, EA has their own ways.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Jun 5, 2020 19:13:56 GMT
No
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 5, 2020 20:54:42 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Ascend on Jun 9, 2020 14:57:15 GMT
I'll say this again... Having Shepard or not has no influence on BioWare's writing quality. Shepard cannot be BioWare's savior. At this point, all they can do is ruin Shepard. I'd rather they throw their writing skills at some other characters and only ever reconsider Shepard (be it in a remake or whatever else) when they have proven that they can still actually write interesting stories rather than bland shallow uninteresting waves of useless information.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 9, 2020 15:53:04 GMT
Shepard died in ME3. For good this time.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 16:15:18 GMT
Shepard died in ME3. For good this time I got a Shepard lives endings. I mean, it's literally called that in the game files.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2020 16:23:04 GMT
I'll say this again... Having Shepard or not has no influence on BioWare's writing quality. Shepard cannot be BioWare's savior. At this point, all they can do is ruin Shepard. I'd rather they throw their writing skills at some other characters and only ever reconsider Shepard (be it in a remake or whatever else) when they have proven that they can still actually write interesting stories rather than bland shallow uninteresting waves of useless information. I do agree the shep’s no magic bullet. I get this definite feeling that bioware got deeply uncomfortable with the mass effect series they’ve created. In which case don’t revisit if you haven’t the will to do so with any justice.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 16:28:51 GMT
I do agree the shep’s no magic bullet. I get this definite feeling that bioware got deeply uncomfortable with the mass effect series they’ve created. In which case don’t revisit if you haven’t the will to do so with any justice. What are your other options and what are your chances to move product in any significant way, through your other options?
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Post by Highwayman667 on Jun 9, 2020 16:31:51 GMT
*Takes the whiskey from sirpretrakus' hands*
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2020 16:32:31 GMT
I do agree the shep’s no magic bullet. I get this definite feeling that bioware got deeply uncomfortable with the mass effect series they’ve created. In which case don’t revisit if you haven’t the will to do so with any justice. What are your other options and what are your chances to move product in any significant way, through your other options? Leave mass effect in freezer and move on to new ip.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 16:34:18 GMT
*Takes the whiskey from sirpretrakus' hands* How much was that bottle of Hibiki worth? $200? Hey. Hey! Give it back! Leave mass effect in freezer and move on to new ip We've already established that it is coming back. What do we do now?
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2020 16:37:16 GMT
*Takes the whiskey from sirpretrakus' hands* How much was that bottle of Hibiki worth? $200? Hey. Hey! Give it back! Leave mass effect in freezer and move on to new ip We've already established that it is coming back. What do we do now? They scrapped a version of dragon age at more advanced levels of planning. do we even know they aren’t talking about a remaster.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 16:42:40 GMT
They scrapped a version of dragon age at more advanced levels of planning. To remake it. do we even know they aren’t talking about a remaster. As far as I know, a remaster is not happening. Even so, even if there is a remaster, what is Bioware going to do after DA4? New IP? Anthem 2? Close shop?
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 9, 2020 16:52:32 GMT
Shepard died in ME3. For good this time I got a Shepard lives endings. I mean, it's literally called that in the game files. Last breath before expiration.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 16:53:07 GMT
Last breath before expiration. That's a very "Shepard dies" interpretation of the game files.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 9, 2020 17:02:39 GMT
Last breath before expiration. That's a very "Shepard dies" interpretation of the game files. Game files dont concern me. The books dont concern me either. Nor does DLC I havent played. What the game narrates does. And that was a nonsensical breathe scene. The other endings are pretty much expiry too. The blue one being benevolent ghost being after somehow deciding Cerb'R'Us was kinda right. The green ending is just tossing Shepard into a blender making some magic genestealer ending. The red one is blowing up the whole thing by shooting it up close and personal. Pretty sure the initial epilogue also says it's the end now, but check out the MP. And to be frank, you just dont pull miraculous revival from the dead twice in a story.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2020 17:03:55 GMT
They scrapped a version of dragon age at more advanced levels of planning. To remake it. do we even know they aren’t talking about a remaster. As far as I know, a remaster is not happening. Even so, even if there is a remaster, what is Bioware going to do after DA4? New IP? Anthem 2? Close shop? I already said new IP if they are too uncomfortable with Mass Effect to do it justice.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 17:04:41 GMT
Game files dont concern me Well, alright. If literal developer named endings don't matter, then I guess this is the end of the conversation.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 17:09:28 GMT
I already said new IP if they are too uncomfortable with Mass Effect to do it justice Do you think EA will fund that? After Anthem?
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 9, 2020 17:37:47 GMT
Game files dont concern me Well, alright. If literal developer named endings don't matter, then I guess this is the end of the conversation. Yup.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2020 17:52:50 GMT
I already said new IP if they are too uncomfortable with Mass Effect to do it justice Do you think EA will fund that? After Anthem? Most of the funding is on dragon age. If that fails can’t see there being much of a bioware anyway. a small team exploring a new ip or a new mass effect wouldn’t likely be much funding wise.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 9, 2020 18:00:32 GMT
Most of the funding is on dragon age. If that fails can’t see there being much of a bioware anyway. a small team exploring a new ip or a new mass effect wouldn’t likely be much funding wise. That shows little trust in Bioware by EA. Why would EA even trust Bioware with yet another new IP, then? New IPs are always riskier than established IPs.
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Post by Phantom on Jun 9, 2020 18:11:46 GMT
if we go back to the Milk Way, I rather have a New Player Character. For they are several potential ones to go off.
A Geth Duo I would love to see is A Geth Hunter and a Geth Engineer. Hunter the Geth Hunter is a stoic Geth that is a snarker and his friend Barney the Geth Engineer is a family friendly Geth that wants to understand Organics and their cultures. Yes Barney is purple, blue, green and black. Hunter is black with red highlight.
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Post by wright1978 on Jun 9, 2020 18:18:08 GMT
Most of the funding is on dragon age. If that fails can’t see there being much of a bioware anyway. a small team exploring a new ip or a new mass effect wouldn’t likely be much funding wise. That shows little trust in Bioware by EA. Why would EA even trust Bioware with yet another new IP, then? New IPs are always riskier than established IPs. EA shut down the part of bioware that made andromeda. Did that show trust? After multiple missteps and contractions I don’t see the capacity currently to shift significant focus away from dragon age. There’s a handful on anthem, maybe a few exploring other stuff. If dragon age looks promising then maybe there will be more rope on offer to trust them.
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