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Post by smilesja on Mar 8, 2020 14:18:01 GMT
I think this isn't the first time he liked a comment about the upsides of using Anthem's codebase... But everything about Anthem is bad according to YouTube.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 8, 2020 15:21:01 GMT
An older video by another clickbait Youtuber?
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Post by biggydx on Mar 8, 2020 15:32:20 GMT
Anthem definitely has a bunch of problems, but IIRC, Playstations bricking was due to software problems primarily caused by Sony.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 8, 2020 15:33:46 GMT
I mean don't get me wrong, I do find problems with Anthem but just using an old YouTube video talking about a problem that Bioware most likely fixed is..... bizarre.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 8, 2020 16:40:30 GMT
I mean don't get me wrong, I do find problems with Anthem but just using an old YouTube video talking about a problem that Bioware most likely fixed is..... bizarre. Dear old cloud's striking me as the kind of fellow who doesn't want to discuss this matter in any form of good faith, because if he did, he'd post a video highlighting Anthem's issues that is both up to date and with some pertinent commentary. However, if he actually is trying to argue... then I hate to say it, but he's just not good at it, plain and simple.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 8, 2020 23:15:25 GMT
I mean don't get me wrong, I do find problems with Anthem but just using an old YouTube video talking about a problem that Bioware most likely fixed is..... bizarre. Dear old cloud's striking me as the kind of fellow who doesn't want to discuss this matter in any form of good faith, because if he did, he'd post a video highlighting Anthem's issues that is both up to date and with some pertinent commentary. However, if he actually is trying to argue... then I hate to say it, but he's just not good at it, plain and simple. That's call bringing facts and evidence to back up my claims that BioWare is fucking up.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2020 23:20:47 GMT
Dear old cloud's striking me as the kind of fellow who doesn't want to discuss this matter in any form of good faith, because if he did, he'd post a video highlighting Anthem's issues that is both up to date and with some pertinent commentary. However, if he actually is trying to argue... then I hate to say it, but he's just not good at it, plain and simple. That's call bringing facts and evidence to back up my claims that BioWare is fucking up. Nah, what you’re doing is more wild imaginings and reckless speculation.
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Post by melbella on Mar 8, 2020 23:28:28 GMT
Huh, other peoples' opinions are now considered facts? Good to know. But, this is a problem not limited to gaming. No one seems to know what facts are anymore.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 8, 2020 23:30:52 GMT
Dear old cloud's striking me as the kind of fellow who doesn't want to discuss this matter in any form of good faith, because if he did, he'd post a video highlighting Anthem's issues that is both up to date and with some pertinent commentary. However, if he actually is trying to argue... then I hate to say it, but he's just not good at it, plain and simple. That's call bringing facts and evidence to back up my claims that BioWare is fucking up. Very well. So on a more straightforward and less vitriolic note: I remeber biggydx believed that the console bricking up (the "evidence" that sparked this conversation) is primarily a result of software problems courtesy of Sony, rather than Bioware fucking up. Would you disagree with that notion?
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Post by colfoley on Mar 9, 2020 0:29:23 GMT
Meh I wasn't hugely enamored with Anthem and honestly not sure I will play it again even after 'Anthem 2.0' comes out, when it comes out. But its nothing something I am too worried about because Anthem was a first for BioWare in many ways and its had a lot of big problems with it and..well I mean its like BioWare decided to put all the skeletal framework of what made them great but none of the substance, it was just a walking zombie of a game. But I don't think this indicates that DA 4 is going to have the problems. A. because Anthem has and BioWare does tend to learn from their mistakes, so even in the realm of live service I expect BioWare to make massive improvements to DA 4. B. Because BioWare/ EA has already seemed to learn ONE important lesson when it comes to not rushing these games out the door...something that plagued both Andromeda and Anthem (even though I really liked the former). C. Established genre which BioWare is a lot more familiar with. D. Established franchise that BioWare is a lot more familiar with, and has an ongoing story and lore already established so a good deal of the leg work is already done. E. Because the Anthem code, which sounds problematic, the fact that this is the second game they have worked on it means it can only go up from here. I mean hell the only think we'll have to worry about with the Anthem code base I think would be having a proper CC (Like Andromeda's. )
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Post by mousestalker on Mar 9, 2020 0:54:25 GMT
Poem for the thread: I am Sam Sam I am
That Sam-I-am That Sam-I-am! I do not like That Sam-I-am
Do you like Bioware's Anthem?
I do not like it, Sam-I-am. I do not like Bioware's Anthem.
Would you like it Here or there?
I would not like it Here or there. I would not like it Anywhere. I do not like Bioware's Anthem. I do not like it, Sam-I-am
Would you like it In a house? Would you like it With a mouse?
I do not like it In a house. I do not like it With a mouse. I do not like it Here or there. I do not like it Anywhere. I do not like Bioware's Anthem. I do not like it, Sam-I-am.
Would you play it In a box? Would you play it With a fox?
Not in a box. Not with a fox. Not in a house. Not with a mouse. I would not play it here or there. I would not play it anywhere. I would not play Bioware's Anthem. I do not like it, Sam-I-am.
Would you? Could you? In a car? play it! play it! Here they are.
I woould not, Could not, In a car
You may like it. You will see. You may like it In a tree?
I would not, could not in a tree. Not in a car! You let me be. I do not like it in a box. I do not like it with a fox I do not like it in a house I do mot like it with a mouse I do not like it here or there. I do not like it anywhere. I do not like Bioware's Anthem. I do not like it, Sam-I-am.
A train! A train! A train! A train! Could you, would you On a train?
Not on a train! Not in a tree! Not in a car! Sam! Let me be! I would not, could not, in a box. I could not, would not, with a fox. I will not play it with a mouse I will not play it in a house. I will not play it here or there. I will not play it anywhere. I do not like it, Sam-I-am.
Say! In the dark? Here in the dark! Would you, could you, in the dark?
I would not, could not, In the dark.
Would you, could you, In the rain?
I would not, could not, in the rain. Not in the dark. Not on a train, Not in a car, Not in a tree. I do not like it, Sam, you see. Not in a house. Not in a box. Not with a mouse. Not with a fox. I will not play it here or there. I do not like it anywhere!
You do not like Bioware's Anthem?
I do not Like it, Sam-I-am.
Could you, would you, With a goat?
I would not, Could not. With a goat!
Would you, could you, On a boat?
I could not, would not, on a boat. I will not, will not, with a goat. I will not play it in the rain. I will not play it on a train. Not in the dark! Not in a tree! Not in a car! You let me be! I do not like it in a box. I do not like it with a fox. I will not play it in a house. I do not like it with a mouse. I do not like it here or there. I do not like it anywhere!
I do not like Biopware's Anthem!
I do not like it, Sam-I-am.
You do not like it. So you say. Try it! Try it! And you may. Try it and you may I say.
Sam! If you will let me be, I will try it. You will see.
Say! I like Bioware's Anthem! I do! I like it, Sam-I-am! And I would play it in a boat! And I would play it with a goat... And I will play it in the rain. And in the dark. And on a train. And in a car. And in a tree. They are so good so good you see!
So I will play it in a box. And I will play it with a fox. And I will play it in a house. And I will play it with a mouse. And I will play it here and there. Say! I will play it anywhere!
I do so like Bioware's Anthem! Thank you! Thank you, Sam-I-am
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Mar 9, 2020 1:46:33 GMT
Some posts have been removed for either pointless baiting or personal attacks.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 9, 2020 1:47:16 GMT
Some posts have been removed for either pointless baiting or personal attacks. Yeah, sorry about that.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 9, 2020 18:55:06 GMT
I think this isn't the first time he liked a comment about the upsides of using Anthem's codebase... Of course he would. I mean, as I've said many times, creating one giant pool of art assets, code, animations mechanics etc that can possibly be shared across a studios titles, and can grow over time with more games, is one of the smartest things a developer can do to cut down costs and save time so they can add new features. The problem until now is that Bioware simply hasn't been doing that. They've been starting from zero every game. EA publishes a lot of games, almost all of them are on Frostbite. Surely Bioware can pull assets not just from their own library, but also from assets of other EA Frostbite titles. Using Anthems code-base for their games moving forward is just the first step in finally making use of this strategy. For example, maybe if Andromeda 2 ever happens, we can finally get REAL jet packs, because Anthem has jets.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 9, 2020 20:08:11 GMT
Anthem definitely has a bunch of problems, but IIRC, Playstations bricking was due to software problems primarily caused by Sony. That was my understanding as well for Sony provided a different version of their OS to BioWare, for not only does the bricking look back on BioWare it also makes Sony's certification look like a joke for it is there to prevent that from happening.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 9, 2020 20:11:20 GMT
I think this isn't the first time he liked a comment about the upsides of using Anthem's codebase... Of course he would. I mean, as I've said many times, creating one giant pool of art assets, code, animations mechanics etc that can possibly be shared across a studios titles, and can grow over time with more games, is one of the smartest things a developer can do to cut down costs and save time so they can add new features. The problem until now is that Bioware simply hasn't been doing that. They've been starting from zero every game. EA publishes a lot of games, almost all of them are on Frostbite. Surely Bioware can pull assets not just from their own library, but also from assets of other EA Frostbite titles. Using Anthems code-base for their games moving forward is just the first step in finally making use of this strategy. For example, maybe if Andromeda 2 ever happens, we can finally get REAL jet packs, because Anthem has jets. I don't think they created Anthem in a complete vacuum, I bet they built upon what they started with Inquisition when making Anthem and now building upon what they made with Anthem with the next Dragon Age game at least the problems I encountered with my limited time with Anthem were completely new things and wouldn't have appeared in Inquisition. Everything I have read and the way I feel about the game after playing it compared to Inquisition and Anthem is that there was an arrogance of some type at BioWare Montreal that wanted nothing to do with Edmonton.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 13, 2020 22:47:51 GMT
Anthem and Andromeda were basically developed concurrently, and both suffered from similar issues in development. The fact that they were released two years apart changes nothing of it. Unless you have some good insider knowledge, I'd suggest waiting for DA4's reviews to drop in a couple of years before claiming Bioware hasn't learned from their mistakes. If it gets around Anthem scores or lower... shit, then you got my blessing to do so. But until then, please either be more tractable in your criticisms or don't say anything at all.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 13, 2020 23:03:47 GMT
'Kay, but first you need to work on your reading comprehension, because these links you posted are ones that line up with the point I made in my first paragraph. Capish?
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 13, 2020 23:16:23 GMT
'Kay, but first you need to work on your reading comprehension, because these links you posted are ones that line up with the point I made in my first paragraph. Capish? But it doesn't change the facts that Anthem is the worst game aside from Andromeda that BioWare has ever made. The rest of your points are just your opinions.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 13, 2020 23:17:41 GMT
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