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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 14, 2020 9:04:07 GMT
^I still have this morbid curiosity for FO76, lol. I don't want to buy it and reward bad business practices but I am still SO curious I might cave eventually. Train wrecks certainly have their appeal!
All the 100% reviews seem very fishy. When was the last time that happened? Even some of the most acclaimed games didn't pull that off. After the leak scandal it reeks of bought reviews.
The Polygon review I read sounds more like what my reaction might be. Reads like a review of a David Cage game. And I'm still scarred from Beyond Two Souls, lol. THAT game was such heavy handed pretentious piece of garbage high school level drama... I haven't dared touch Detroit because I don't think I can take more of the preaching narrative of how bad people are.
Maybe the leak was very misleading and this gut wrenching narrative of empty violence is actually well done and works and lingers in a good way. Maybe. Smells too much of David Cage level of unsubtle to me though. I wasn't going to buy either way. Question for me is rather, do I watch a Let's Play or not to satisfy my curiosity? (Which would prove once more that there is no such thing as bad publicity.)
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 14:19:33 GMT
Just because there are 10/10 reviews, doesn't necessarily mean it's "bought and paid for" are you going to be suspicious if they had 1/10? Just read the reviews that you trust plus watch gameplay walkthroughs on Youtube (preferably without commentary so you can get close to the full experience) and judge for yourself. Don't be so beholden to what these game reviewers whether they're "professional" or Youtubers tell you. Look at the information and judge for yourself.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 14:22:14 GMT
Review embargo has been lifted. Currently stands at 95 on Metacritic. Here's one of the reviews that stands at the other end of the spectrum:
SkillUp/Layman Gaming show the importance of gamers making their own media. Review by gamers for gamers. Nice vid You mean gamers who they agree with. I used to think that as well, but these Youtuber gamers seek to divide and attack others who don't agree them. Not necessary Skillup but others. And for crying out loud just because they give a game 10/10 doesn't make them shills. Are you guys going to call anyone who gives it a 0 haters? Or this just applies to games you guys don't like?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 14, 2020 14:48:53 GMT
Just because there are 10/10 reviews, doesn't necessarily mean it's "bought and paid for" are you going to be suspicious if they had 1/10? Just read the reviews that you trust plus watch gameplay walkthroughs on Youtube (preferably without commentary so you can get close to the full experience) and judge for yourself. Don't be so beholden to what these game reviewers whether they're "professional" or Youtubers tell you. Look at the information and judge for yourself. And Sony would loose more then they would gain. There are at least 85 reviews on metacritic you (generalizing you) realize how much money they would have to spend to pay every single reviewer? On top of the other first party games they have? Same logic goes for every piece media.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 14, 2020 15:22:24 GMT
Sony considers Part 2 an embarrassment that they want to bury quickly after launch.
You can see in their conduct: the ultra-aggressive DMCA where they even got their own video taken down, the voice actors playing defense, Ghosts of Tsushima being heavily pushed despite the fact Part 2 is coming out first.
IGN JP actually came out with a score of 7/10, which is far more reflective of the actual experience. Looks like even blind squirrels find the nut eventually.
It’s not a bad game, but it is a disappointment for what made Part 1 so beloved.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 15:48:22 GMT
IGN JP actually came out with a score of 7/10, which is far more reflective of the actual experience. Looks like even blind squirrels find the nut eventually. What that does that even mean? Does it mean it's a review that fits your view?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 14, 2020 16:06:39 GMT
Sony considers Part 2 an embarrassment that they want to bury quickly after launch. Are you fucking kidding me with this bullshit. Lol do you have any fucking proof? Beyond your assertions. 89 metacritic reviews and it's a 96 and the lowest is a 70. Get out of here with that bullshit, how the fuck is a 96 and your lowest score is a 70 is an "embarrassment"? www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii?ref=hp
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 14, 2020 16:12:54 GMT
Review embargo has been lifted. Currently stands at 95 on Metacritic. Here's one of the reviews that stands at the other end of the spectrum:
SkillUp/Layman Gaming show the importance of gamers making their own media. Review by gamers for gamers. Nice vid For the last couple of years I have been finding the reviews that don't give a score to be a better review for me then ones that do. I have been noticing or at least the reviews come across to me that if they give a score they are working more in the review to justify their score then really talking about the game. Now the ones with a more negative review for The Last of Us 2 seem to be more from the outlets that don't give a score Polygon, Kotaku, and Skill Up and at the same time they seem to be the more informative ones.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 14, 2020 16:23:17 GMT
Sony considers Part 2 an embarrassment that they want to bury quickly after launch. Are you fucking kidding me with this bullshit. Lol do you have any fucking proof? Beyond your assertions. 89 metacritic reviews and it's a 96. Get out of here with that bullshit, how the fuck is a 96 is an "embarrassment"? www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii?ref=hp I think The Last of Us 2 is a PR mess for Naughty Dog and maybe Sony. As far as the review scores go I really don't know what to go by. Sony has gagged reviewers pretty heavily on what they can and cannot talk about so I am thinking there might be a more negative streak of reviews as the game gets released next week since it sounds like that might be the more problematic areas of the game. From my understanding they couldn't talk about the second half of the game, could only show 10-15% of the game in videos, and could only talk about the game for a certain amount of time.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 14, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
IGN JP actually came out with a score of 7/10, which is far more reflective of the actual experience. Looks like even blind squirrels find the nut eventually. What that does that even mean? Does it mean it's a review that fits your view? More or less, 2.5 points off for story and characters getting really shafted and .5 points for lack of gameplay alterations.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 14, 2020 16:25:30 GMT
Sony considers Part 2 an embarrassment that they want to bury quickly after launch. Are you fucking kidding me with this bullshit. Lol do you have any fucking proof? Beyond your assertions. 89 metacritic reviews and it's a 96 and the lowest is a 70. Get out of here with that bullshit, how the fuck is a 96 and your lowest score is a 70 is an "embarrassment"? www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii?ref=hp Someone's a little salty.
I'm not talking about the paid and gagged reviewers, I'm talking about the leaks and the negative reaction to it as well as the leaks possibly being franchise destroying.
Sony went nuts, told Druckmann to get it ready for launch by mid June and then quickly switched to advertising Ghosts.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 16:25:41 GMT
SkillUp/Layman Gaming show the importance of gamers making their own media. Review by gamers for gamers. Nice vid For the last couple of years I have been finding the reviews that don't give a score to be a better review for me then ones that do. I have been noticing or at least the reviews come across to me that if they give a score they are working more in the review to justify their score then really talking about the game. Now the ones with a more negative review for The Last of Us 2 seem to be more from the outlets that don't give a score Polygon, Kotaku, and Skill Up and at the same time they seem to be the more informative ones. That's because people often bash reviewers who give low or high score:
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 14, 2020 16:27:59 GMT
For the last couple of years I have been finding the reviews that don't give a score to be a better review for me then ones that do. I have been noticing or at least the reviews come across to me that if they give a score they are working more in the review to justify their score then really talking about the game. Now the ones with a more negative review for The Last of Us 2 seem to be more from the outlets that don't give a score Polygon, Kotaku, and Skill Up and at the same time they seem to be the more informative ones. That's because people often bash reviewers who give low or high score: Yeah, I remember the outrage that The Escapist gave Dragon Age 2 a 10/10. Not what I would have given it, but I think that was one of the first times I remember that kind of hatred. Its why I wish more places would go away from scoring for at the end it means nothing, but I guess people don't want to spend 15min reading a review.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 16:36:17 GMT
How can you even tell which one is a "paid reviewer?" because for the past couple of years, It seems that paid reviews means giving a game that people don't like a positive score.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 14, 2020 16:44:48 GMT
Are you fucking kidding me with this bullshit. Lol do you have any fucking proof? Beyond your assertions. 89 metacritic reviews and it's a 96 and the lowest is a 70. Get out of here with that bullshit, how the fuck is a 96 and your lowest score is a 70 is an "embarrassment"? www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii?ref=hpSomeone's a little salty.
I'm not talking about the paid and gagged reviewers, I'm talking about the leaks and the negative reaction to it as well as the leaks possibly being franchise destroying.
Sony went nuts, told Druckmann to get it ready for launch by mid June and then quickly switched to advertising Ghosts.
Fair enough, I get triggered by this, because people say that when they don't agree with a review score. You just said Part II is an "embarrassment" and I assumed you were talking about the reviews. I don't know if I agree with that last part. I saw just as many State of Plays as Ghosts. I saw a Part II ad on ESPN. Also, less PR doesn't equal to company's confidence in the game. I could argue that less advertising is a good thing, because of the positive review scores. Plus, Ghosts is a new IP it of course would need more advertising then Part II.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 16:46:55 GMT
Someone's a little salty.
I'm not talking about the paid and gagged reviewers, I'm talking about the leaks and the negative reaction to it as well as the leaks possibly being franchise destroying.
Sony went nuts, told Druckmann to get it ready for launch by mid June and then quickly switched to advertising Ghosts.
Fair enough, you didn't say that though. You just said Part II is an "embarrassment" and I assumed you were talking about the reviews. I don't know if I agree with that last part. I saw just as many State of Plays as Ghosts. I saw a Part II ad on ESPN. Also, less PR doesn't equal to company's confidence in the game. I could argue that less advertising is a good thing, because of the positive review scores. Plus, Ghosts is a new IP it of course would need more advertising then Part II. You don't think it's an embarrassment?! Obviously that means you're a paid shill! How much is Sony paying you? Fess up!
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 14, 2020 16:47:38 GMT
How can you even tell which one is a "paid reviewer?" because for the past couple of years, It seems that paid reviews means giving a game that people don't like a positive score. This is from my point of view:
Those who gave a game 10/10 reviews despite glaring issues, doubly so when the glaring issues are what made the previous entry so beloved. Additionally, reviewers telling people not to read anything about the game, to keep an open mind, and finally telling people that the game is not fun is okay for some bizarre reason.
Also add to the fact that Sony is running a massive copyright blitz and targeting everything from their own videos to parodies says everything.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 16:55:42 GMT
How can you even tell which one is a "paid reviewer?" because for the past couple of years, It seems that paid reviews means giving a game that people don't like a positive score. This is from my point of view:
Those who gave a game 10/10 reviews despite glaring issues, doubly so when the glaring issues are what made the previous entry so beloved. Additionally, reviewers telling people not to read anything about the game, to keep an open mind, and finally telling people that the game is not fun is okay for some bizarre reason.
Also add to the fact that Sony is running a massive copyright blitz and targeting everything from their own videos to parodies says everything.
To be honest sometimes it's to have people keep an open mind to what others think.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 14, 2020 17:12:05 GMT
This is from my point of view:
Those who gave a game 10/10 reviews despite glaring issues, doubly so when the glaring issues are what made the previous entry so beloved. Additionally, reviewers telling people not to read anything about the game, to keep an open mind, and finally telling people that the game is not fun is okay for some bizarre reason.
Also add to the fact that Sony is running a massive copyright blitz and targeting everything from their own videos to parodies says everything.
To be honest sometimes it's to have people keep an open mind to what others think. True, but Sony is not allowing that.
They were blasting people with a ban-shotgun for even mentioning the game (not leaks) about a month ago and getting collateral damage.
They never did this even when the Witcher 3 was leaked.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 17:17:54 GMT
Well The Witcher 3 released on multiple platforms while TLOU is a Sony exclusive?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 14, 2020 17:22:10 GMT
Just because there are 10/10 reviews, doesn't necessarily mean it's "bought and paid for" are you going to be suspicious if they had 1/10? Just read the reviews that you trust plus watch gameplay walkthroughs on Youtube (preferably without commentary so you can get close to the full experience) and judge for yourself. Don't be so beholden to what these game reviewers whether they're "professional" or Youtubers tell you. Look at the information and judge for yourself. And Sony would loose more then they would gain. There are at least 85 reviews on metacritic you (generalizing you) realize how much money they would have to spend to pay every single reviewer? On top of the other first party games they have? Same logic goes for every piece media. Actual money isn’t the only way they can be paid. For both websites and Youtubers, they just have to threaten not giving them access to their games anymore. It doesn’t cost them a cent, while the reviewers lose money due to less clicks.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jun 14, 2020 17:30:57 GMT
People need to remember that certain publishers and devs have become media darlings. Nintendo, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, and most definitely Sony. Their exclusives always seem to get the kid glove treatment. In fact I wonder of it all has something to do with exclusive titles. I'm not hating on the game here but I wouldn't be surprised to see a far different user score. Especially after seeing Skill Up's review, who for my money does the best reviews on Youtube.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 14, 2020 18:41:48 GMT
There are at least 85 reviews on metacritic you (generalizing you) realize how much money they would have to spend to pay every single reviewer? Indeed. The idea of reviewers getting paid seems like conspiracy nonsense to me. How many reviewers would need to leak the payment to blow the whole thing open? not many. And if so, why is it that the games that get dumped on for being bad mysteriously 'forget' to pay off reviewers? No. Suggesting reviewers are getting paid is a pretty lame cover for having nothing intelligent to say about a game that is getting a good press. What is true is that reviewers appear to be more susceptible to have strongly polarised views, i.e. a game is awesome or it sucks. Not much nuance from some reviewers. Games tend not to be quite as good (or quite as bad) as reviewers suggest they are. In a few days we can make up our own minds.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 18:53:55 GMT
There are at least 85 reviews on metacritic you (generalizing you) realize how much money they would have to spend to pay every single reviewer? In a few days we can make up our own minds. That seems hard to do with some people. They much rather do what a reviewer or Youtuber tells them to do like a machine.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 14, 2020 18:56:13 GMT
People need to remember that certain publishers and devs have become media darlings. Nintendo, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, and most definitely Sony. Their exclusives always seem to get the kid glove treatment. In fact I wonder of it all has something to do with exclusive titles. I'm not hating on the game here but I wouldn't be surprised to see a far different user score. Especially after seeing Skill Up's review, who for my money does the best reviews on Youtube. You mean user scores being plastered by zeroes due to the "trans" character. Oh I'm already bracing for TLOU2 to be be rated around 1/10 on the user score metacritic.
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