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Post by Element Zero on Aug 4, 2021 15:52:15 GMT
Sigh.
My unvaccinated, idiot* sister finally managed to catch COVID-19. She tested negative after coming home sick from her idiotic, ill-advised family vacation. Her car was totaled during said trip, so maybe she caught it while car shopping? Either way, the story gets better.
(* She is technically a genius, like most of my idiot family. Exceptional intelligence has little to no impact upon good decision making, moral fiber, etc...)
My mother is incredibly ill, and has been for decades. Due to numerous autoimmune conditions, she has been advised not to get vaccinated. So naturally my sister called my ill mother to drive her to the hospital. Wouldn't want to pay for EMS, afterall. My sister makes a healthy salary, but is miserly in addition to stupid and selfish.
She was sent home to recover after imaging, blood work, etc... I guess we will see in the next few weeks whether her poor judgment has killed my mother. Ugh. Fucking idiot.
The wealthy world is teeming with dumbasses like my sister while more deserving people elsewhere desperately await an opportunity to be vaccinated. Many will likely never be given a chance due to $$$. It's all so pointless and maddening.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 4, 2021 20:51:48 GMT
Sigh. My unvaccinated, idiot* sister finally managed to catch COVID-19. She tested negative after coming home sick from her idiotic, ill-advised family vacation. Her car was totaled during said trip, so maybe she caught it while car shopping? Either way, the story gets better. (* She is technically a genuis, like most of my idiot family. Exceptional intelligence has little to no impact upon good decision making, moral fiber, etc...) My mother is incredibly ill, and has been for decades. Due to numerous autoimmune conditions, she has been advised not to get vaccinated. So naturally my sister called my ill mother to drive her to the hospital. Wouldn't want to pay for EMS, afterall. My sister makes a healthy salary, but is miserly in addition to stupid and selfish. She was sent home to recover after imaging, blood work, etc... I guess we will see in the next few weeks whether her poor judgment has killed my mother. Ugh. Fucking idiot. The wealthy world is teeming with dumbasses like my sister while more deserving people elsewhere desperately await an opportunity to be vaccinated. Many will likely never be given a chance due to $$$. It's all so pointless and maddening. Ugh - sorry to hear that, man. What...kind of genius is she? As in, her field of work/study, I mean? Because that is next level.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 4, 2021 21:41:18 GMT
Sigh. My unvaccinated, idiot* sister finally managed to catch COVID-19. She tested negative after coming home sick from her idiotic, ill-advised family vacation. Her car was totaled during said trip, so maybe she caught it while car shopping? Either way, the story gets better. (* She is technically a genuis, like most of my idiot family. Exceptional intelligence has little to no impact upon good decision making, moral fiber, etc...) My mother is incredibly ill, and has been for decades. Due to numerous autoimmune conditions, she has been advised not to get vaccinated. So naturally my sister called my ill mother to drive her to the hospital. Wouldn't want to pay for EMS, afterall. My sister makes a healthy salary, but is miserly in addition to stupid and selfish. She was sent home to recover after imaging, blood work, etc... I guess we will see in the next few weeks whether her poor judgment has killed my mother. Ugh. Fucking idiot. The wealthy world is teeming with dumbasses like my sister while more deserving people elsewhere desperately await an opportunity to be vaccinated. Many will likely never be given a chance due to $$$. It's all so pointless and maddening. Ugh - sorry to hear that, man. What...kind of genius is she? As in, her field of work/study, I mean? Because that is next level. High IQ "genius". She was in the 140s at age 6, which puts her on the low end of the family. It's a family of gifted brains and shitty connective tissue. 😄 She has likewise professionally done well. You wouldn't know many of them are intelligent, though, based upon behaviors. High aptitudes don't always equate to real world intelligence or wisdom. Those are clearly a different type of intelligence. To be clear, we aren't d-bags who go take IQ tests for kicks or ego. We all went through a school system as children that identified and attempted to nurture exceptional gifts. In fact, I feel like a bit of an ass who has posted, "Attention, internet: I is smart." I just wanted to give some context to my frustration, not brag on the internet. I've always found it frustrating that she and a couple others have the intellectual capacity to easily grasp complex topics, but the innate laziness/"don't give a f#@%" attitude that leads them to ignore good sense. I've been waiting for her to get sick, with the way she's been living. ___ My 15yo nephew and 9yo niece also have it. They're both flu-like, but not sick enough to need emergency treatment. I hope it stays that way. My sister's boyfriend and his 9yo daughter are also sick. He and she just went to a public concert. Maybe that was the event where they got infected? Who can say? I found out my sister refused to call EMS and said she'd just not go to the hospital if that's what it took; so she obstinately exposed my mother. I'd have called EMS myself and told them she was so sick as to have compromised judgment. We'll see how it goes over the next few weeks. I talked to my sister via text today. She said she might finally "properly read the information I forwarded" regarding vaccines. Months ago we had our last conversation about this. I'm careful to not be pushy. She clearly ignored the data I shared. Sigh. Willful stupidity. Why worry about a worldwide pandemic when you can ensconce your head safely up your own ass and pretend there's no risk?
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Post by Beerfish on Aug 4, 2021 21:47:49 GMT
Very true about intelligence not equalling wisdom. Dungeons and dragons got it right with separate intelligence and wisdom scores.
I had an older brother who passed away years ago, very intelligent, always did good in school and studies but to go along with his 17 or 18 intelligence score he had a wisdom score of about 3.
He would tell you about something he did or said as if it was just normal every day behaviour and your mouth would just drop at him doing 100% exactly the wrong or inappropriate thing in the scenario.
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Post by dragontartare on Aug 4, 2021 21:57:27 GMT
I know this is going to sound bad, but it really pisses me off when I hear about covid-deniers who manage to avoid catching symptomatic covid infection, but I caught it at work back in November despite taking precautions. Still Element Zero , I hope your mom will be ok, and that your sister will wise up.
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 4, 2021 22:03:37 GMT
I know this is going to sound bad, but it really pisses me off when I hear about covid-deniers who manage to avoid catching symptomatic covid infection, but I caught it at work back in November despite taking precautions. Still Element Zero , I hope your mom will be ok, and that your sister will wise up. Thanks. I appreciate it. It gets me mad, too. My wife and I have had very careful, considerate friends die while we each have idiot relatives who behave as if nothing is wrong. That's not to mention reckless neighbors who have managed not to get sick. We will all catch this virus, eventually. That's nature. The fact that we have life-saving vaccines that millions won't take is absolutely incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 23:28:02 GMT
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Aug 5, 2021 0:15:38 GMT
Huh funny, I too have a very intelligent relative who has a great paying job - but she always manages to make super unwise decisions and her life is a total mess. I may not be as intelligent as her, or even intelligent in general - but with the decisions she makes I immediately see disaster coming miles way - and it always comes. The weird thing is, she still won't listen to anyone and makes one terrible decision after another. Wisdom and intelligence sure are two very different and separate things.-
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 5, 2021 2:57:45 GMT
This thread was a useful place to unleash my rant. I'm glad it's here. The topic is so charged, unfortunately, that it often feels you can't speak your mind to very many people. Sometimes, you need to just shout. ___
My sister and I have talked off and on today via text. She has never been anti-vax. Rather, she lets disinformation unsettle her and then just kicks the can down the road in reckless fashion.
She again voiced her concerns, and we talked about some of them. She forwarded me some info, and I showed her how it could easily be identified as BS by its lack of facts; leading questions (with no answers provided); and its conspiratorial tone. It seemed to click for her, finally.
I directed her again to trusted doctors and scientists for the best available information. Her biggest problem seems to be that she naively underestimates the malfeasance of others. She is still shocked by the willingness of people to willfully spread dangerous disinformation. I hope she finally gets it, now. It's an important lesson, and useful well beyond the pandemic.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 5, 2021 5:05:18 GMT
Damn, man. I hope everything works out for your family (mum and sis) in the best posible way. It's never too late to change! Regarding the topic, after getting a bit more than 70% of the population fully vaccinated, daily new cases have been falling sharply down for the last 3 weeks, to the point of having less than 1000 cases per day (not seen since before the first wave back in early 2020). That has led to quite the boom in the economy (fueled also by the high prices of copper) to the point that is possible to recover and pass what economic damage did the pandemic last year (if well the numbers are green, there is still jobs to recover and wealth to distribute). My point is that, the so called "herd inmunity" seems possible, as long as people get the 2 shoots (and the delta variant stays away), and people don't relax the health meassures!.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 5, 2021 7:36:30 GMT
Oh man, seven, just saw the news... This Delta is a stone cold bitch. I assume you’re still working through like in all the others?
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Post by seven on Aug 5, 2021 8:18:58 GMT
Oh man, seven , just saw the news... This Delta is a stone cold bitch. I assume you’re still working through like in all the others? Woooooooo lockdown round 6 We just got out nearly 2 weeks ago Hopefully this one is only short lived, we pulled through the last one fairly quickly I guess. Yes, no rest for the wicked, the upside being, no traffic tomorrow for the commute . The traffic gods have not been nice as of late
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 5, 2021 8:32:31 GMT
Oh man, seven , just saw the news... This Delta is a stone cold bitch. I assume you’re still working through like in all the others? Woooooooo lockdown round 6 We just got out nearly 2 weeks ago Hopefully this one is only short lived, we pulled through the last one fairly quickly I guess. Yes, no rest for the wicked, the upside being, no traffic tomorrow for the commute . The traffic gods have not been nice as of late Wait, wait, wait.... There is going to be ANOTHER worldwide lockdown?!
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Aug 5, 2021 8:42:24 GMT
I am reaaaaaaally glad that I work from home. Actually had a coffee meeting with my boss this afternoon, which is likely the last real face-to-face conversation I'll have with anyone for a while. (Telling the bagel guy what I want on my bagel hardly counts.) I was meant to be going down Mornington in a couple of weeks but, uh, probably not happening. Oh, well, not like I need much excuse to stay inside and play DAI again, especially in winter.
I'm weathering it fine even though I really miss the swimming pool, but some of my friends and family members are starting to find it really tough now that we're on to Lockdown #6 and barely got a break after Lockdown #5.
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Post by seven on Aug 5, 2021 8:47:54 GMT
Woooooooo lockdown round 6 We just got out nearly 2 weeks ago Hopefully this one is only short lived, we pulled through the last one fairly quickly I guess. Yes, no rest for the wicked, the upside being, no traffic tomorrow for the commute . The traffic gods have not been nice as of late Wait, wait, wait.... There is going to be ANOTHER worldwide lockdown?! Join us, on the dark side!
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 5, 2021 8:50:13 GMT
Wait, wait, wait.... There is going to be ANOTHER worldwide lockdown?! Join us, on the dark side! I think I'm 3 quarters of the way there. Cabin fever is really starting to settle in.
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Post by seven on Aug 5, 2021 9:10:13 GMT
Join us, on the dark side! I think I'm 3 quarters of the way there. Cabin fever is really starting to settle in. I'll trade you, I need a holiday
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 5, 2021 9:14:20 GMT
I think I'm 3 quarters of the way there. Cabin fever is really starting to settle in. I'll trade you, I need a holiday Trust me, you don't want anything to do with my brand of crazy. 😉😋
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Aug 5, 2021 17:04:02 GMT
Huh, now two weeks after my second shot I suddenly got achy joints, skin & throat, I felt cold and all the time I felt like I was on the verge of getting fever accompanied with the usual symptoms of sleeplessness, hot head and insomnia. Was like this for a day & a half, now I'm starting to feel much better again. I did three covid tests in two days and they were all negative, so I either had something else entirely or it was a strangely delayed reaction to the second shot. Though the last 5 days I was staying at home and I did not see anyone, I did not even get out to buy groceries, so if it was a bug it took a long time to start its work on my body. Weird.
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Post by sugarless on Aug 6, 2021 11:33:29 GMT
Wait, wait, wait.... There is going to be ANOTHER worldwide lockdown?! Join us, on the dark side! You sound like a Victorian. A true veteran of the lockdown in Aus - you had a pretty long one last year I remember. Here in NSW, we're just warming up - looks like it's going to be long one for the people in Sydney.
However, we're sitting on a time bomb here on the far north coast - it's only a matter of time before a dumbass from Sydney will bring it to our neck of the woods especially after the premier took vaccines away from regional areas to vaccinate students in Sydney.... There are nurses and elder care people here who still haven't been vaccinated. It's powder keggy.....
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Post by sugarless on Aug 6, 2021 11:45:06 GMT
This thread was a useful place to unleash my rant. I'm glad it's here. The topic is so charged, unfortunately, that it often feels you can't speak your mind to very many people. Sometimes, you need to just shout. ___ My sister and I have talked off and on today via text. She has never been anti-vax. Rather, she lets disinformation unsettle her and then just kicks the can down the road in reckless fashion. She again voiced her concerns, and we talked about some of them. She forwarded me some info, and I showed her how it could easily be identified as BS by its lack of facts; leading questions (with no answers provided); and its conspiratorial tone. It seemed to click for her, finally. I directed her again to trusted doctors and scientists for the best available information. Her biggest problem seems to be that she naively underestimates the malfeasance of others. She is still shocked by the willingness of people to willfully spread dangerous disinformation. I hope she finally gets it, now. It's an important lesson, and useful well beyond the pandemic. Here's an article I found today....maybe you could share it with her. There are more an more incidences like this everyday in the news, not your typical anti-vax type people who for whatever reason, rational or not, believed that Covid is a hoax and the vaccine is experimental. It's so sad and frustrating.
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Post by seven on Aug 6, 2021 11:49:11 GMT
Join us, on the dark side! You sound like a Victorian. A true veteran of the lockdown in Aus - you had a pretty long one last year I remember. Here in NSW, we're just warming up - looks like it's going to be long one for the people in Sydney.
However, we're sitting on a time bomb here on the far north coast - it's only a matter of time before a dumbass from Sydney will bring it to our neck of the woods especially after the premier took vaccines away from regional areas to vaccinate students in Sydney.... There are nurses and elder care people here who still haven't been vaccinated. It's powder keggy.....
Lockdown Lockdown What you gonna doooo What you gonna do when the lockdown comes for youuuu
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Post by Element Zero on Aug 6, 2021 13:33:57 GMT
Join us, on the dark side! You sound like a Victorian. A true veteran of the lockdown in Aus - you had a pretty long one last year I remember. Here in NSW, we're just warming up - looks like it's going to be long one for the people in Sydney.
However, we're sitting on a time bomb here on the far north coast - it's only a matter of time before a dumbass from Sydney will bring it to our neck of the woods especially after the premier took vaccines away from regional areas to vaccinate students in Sydney.... There are nurses and elder care people here who still haven't been vaccinated. It's powder keggy.....
It's comforting infuriating to know that the rest of the world learned nothing from the US' catastrophic (non)response. The plan seems to continue to be let's not repeat the same mistakes (again and again and again) and/or flail about in a very uncoordinated manner. Meanwhile, while you wait on vaccines, many thousands more here in the US are hospitalized daily, and vaccines sit unused. Edit: I don't know how much is too much criticism of policy on these boards, but I might link a story. We have a governor here of a very populous state. He is clearly positioning himself for a run for US President in 2024. He has made it unlawful for schools in his state to implement local mask mandates as the delta variant rips through the local population. His state has been one of the very worst places to be for COVID-19 at every turn. Doctors and educators are begging to be allowed to protect public health on a local level; sort of "if you won't help, at least stay out of the way". Several school districts are implementing/maintaining orders against his wishes. His response is to threaten their funding. It's incredible.
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Post by dragontartare on Aug 6, 2021 15:13:18 GMT
I don't know how much is too much criticism of policy on these boards, but I might link a story. We have a governor here of a very populous state. He is clearly positioning himself for a run for US President in 2024. He has made it unlawful for schools in his state to implement local mask mandates as the delta variant rips through the local population. His state has been one of the very worst places to be for COVID-19 at every turn. Doctors and educators are begging to be allowed to protect public health on a local level; sort of "if you won't help, at least stay out of the way". Several school districts are implementing/maintaining orders against his wishes. His response is to threaten their funding. It's incredible. I think the politics threshold on this thread is probably pretty low. I had posted a video of another politician and her fans cheering over their low vaccination rates, and the post got reported and removed for being political. As for the rest, unless there is a second state where those things are true, that is where I live. I can't fully express my disgust without probably offending whoever reported me before and getting reported again, but this governor is as dangerous as he sounds, and I hope the rest of the country is paying attention. Meanwhile, ICU beds are filling up, mostly with unvaxxed individuals, but if you come in to the hospital as a car accident victim and you get substandard care because the workers are stretched so thin, you're screwed regardless. It baffles me that people do not understand this. I have a friend of a friend who has a patient-facing non-medical role in an urban hospital not too far from me. She said so many people have quit that they are now mandated to work 7 days per week. Trying to stay vague here, they only have about a dozen ICU beds left for a very large region.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Aug 6, 2021 18:56:22 GMT
Woooooooo lockdown round 6 We just got out nearly 2 weeks ago Hopefully this one is only short lived, we pulled through the last one fairly quickly I guess. Yes, no rest for the wicked, the upside being, no traffic tomorrow for the commute . The traffic gods have not been nice as of late Wait, wait, wait.... There is going to be ANOTHER worldwide lockdown?! I don't even know if that's possible here where I live, people were SO pissed in the last lockdown I cannot imagine people and businesses complying for another round. This is gonna be interesting.
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