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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 19, 2021 9:17:38 GMT
If any of that was true to even a moderate extent, it would be impossible to hide. It would be impossible to doubt. Billions of vaccine doses have been administered worldwide. We'd have body bags lining the streets in every major city of the world. And maybe some cities still do. But they're unvaccinated people who've died from Covid, not the vaccines. I know people who honestly believed that the virus was man-made and released to solely to kill people to solve the overpopulation problem. They were real quiet when it turned out that the virus wasn't exactly as lethal as a population decimator should be. The same people then said the vaccine is going to decimate the people once released, to solve overpopulation. Now when I point out that the body bags aren't exactly piling up in the streets despite many many millions of people vaccinated twice, soon even thrice, they say its gene therapy and will eventually lead to cancer in everyone. The sad thing is, I have people like that in my family, and they honestly believe I'm going to die from the vaccine. And I'm talking about relatively normal people in their late 40s with a well paid job with a lot of responsibility, a family with kids and good education here. Apparently it only needs a crisis to bring out the hidden irrational crazy in people. OR, people are simply afraid of the vaccine and try to rationalize their reluctance by holding onto crazy conspiracy theories. There is quite a few people hopping from one conspiracy theory to the next as each starts to crumble under their feet - just to justify their unwillingness to get vaccinated
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Post by rewindbutton on Nov 19, 2021 9:27:26 GMT
What do you think of Gibraltar's case ? The most vaccinated part of the world. [snip] I was answering Beetle about hospitalizations in Austria. What I said holds true in general though. I'm a registered health professional, and when I post in this thread, there's a good chance my posts are backed with data.
That said, I checked Gibraltar, and unfortunately with a population of just 33 000 the sample size is just too small to make assumptions. I'm not sure if you are familiar with statistics, but in medical statistics there are particular pitfalls in reducing the sample size. So, no comment on Gibraltar, I'm afraid.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 19, 2021 14:12:25 GMT
The numbers seem a little different in Germany. The number of vaccinated people in the ICU is rising rapidly among the old (60+). Until a few weeks ago the number was at 10%. Now it's about a third. Within calendar week 40-43,the percentage in the ICU in the 60+ rage was even 34,5%. The percentage of the age range 18-59 has increased dramatically too from 3,5% to 12,5%. The number of covid deaths of vaccinated people 60+has reached 43%... So basically: once the vaccine wears off in 6 months tops, old people die as much as before. So while vaccines are still very effective short term, they are NOT the exit strategy we all hoped for. We'll have to keep vaccinating like crazy however, and eventually everyone will have gotten the virus a few times and developed enough immunity so that we only need to do booster shots annually with the flue shot. That's my take on the situation. Get the virus while the vaccine effect is strong and that will be the best situation you can be in. Sadly, some people will remain too sick and the vaccine just draws out the inevitable very briefly. And we can't do anything about it. Edit: I'm aware that the numbers in the ICU cannot compare directly because the pool of vaccinated people is much bigger. But there's rapid growth among the vaccinated who end up in the ICU or dead right now. That's because millions of elderly have had their shots over six months ago. So in the comming weeks we'll probably see a development that moves more towards the general distribution in the population with more vaccinated than unvaccinated dying. The vaccines wane too fast. That's the part that nobody saw coming quite so early. We saw it coming early enough to do something about it with booster shots but the German government dragged their feet. Again. And now soon there'll be many deaths again that could have been prevented. The data isn't THAT new.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 19, 2021 19:40:55 GMT
2 & 3 are actually linked. The most common refrain from those who're anti-vax is "I've done my research and *insert conspiratorial nonsense here*". They haven't. They never have. And those who claim they have are just insulting actual researchers. None of that was a comment at you - specifically - but at those who refuse the vaccine for spurious reasons. We have some here in my country who say, "I'm not anti-vax, I'm just anti this Pfizer vaccine". They never, ever provide actually truthful evidence about what specifically they find objectionable about Pfizer. Because there isn't anything. They just know that it is currently the only vaccine available in New Zealand. Others say, "I'm not anti-vax, I just don't like being told what to do", which means they have the mental and emotional maturity of a 12 year old. So my tolerance for those people - such as it was to begin with - is absolute zero, now. Oh - and immunity was never promised, at least, not where I am. Greater protection was, though. And that is what vaccination gives. With regards to the rest of your post, I don't require you to do your own research, no. In fact, I actively discourage it. Unless you are a fully trained, professional researcher (whether doctor, scientist or assistant thereof) in the field of vaccines or virology, doing "your own research" will inevitably mean Googling stuff. And as I said, that's not research. Damn that a whole army of straw men here! Edit, and fyi, I am 1) vaccinated and 2) a librarian, so yeah I am a trained researcher. And you know what I have to say, there literally isn't enough information to make a solid case for or against the vaccines (any of them). And there probably won't be for a couple more years. So I respect the choice of anyone who chooses to take the vaccine, or who don't want to risk their health with a not-fully tested medical procedure. As for other people, I say yes , do your research. Telling people not to research is no different than telling people not to think! Talk to your doctors or other trusted medical professionals. Just make sure the information you get is reputable. Science welcomes questions and challenges. Just make sure you aren't getting it from conspiracy sites.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Nov 19, 2021 20:17:46 GMT
or who don't want to risk their health with a not-fully tested medical procedure. A year and 7.6 billion vaccine shots later - how much tested do people want it to be? And nope, long term side effects are basically not a thing with vaccines in general, side effects appear inside 2 months after the vaccine shot, usually within 2 weeks.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 19, 2021 20:35:34 GMT
The numbers seem a little different in Germany. The number of vaccinated people in the ICU is rising rapidly among the old (60+). Until a few weeks ago the number was at 10%. Now it's about a third. Within calendar week 40-43,the percentage in the ICU in the 60+ rage was even 34,5%. The percentage of the age range 18-59 has increased dramatically too from 3,5% to 12,5%. The number of covid deaths of vaccinated people 60+has reached 43%... So basically: once the vaccine wears off in 6 months tops, old people die as much as before. So while vaccines are still very effective short term, they are NOT the exit strategy we all hoped for. We'll have to keep vaccinating like crazy however, and eventually everyone will have gotten the virus a few times and developed enough immunity so that we only need to do booster shots annually with the flue shot. That's my take on the situation. Get the virus while the vaccine effect is strong and that will be the best situation you can be in. Sadly, some people will remain too sick and the vaccine just draws out the inevitable very briefly. And we can't do anything about it. Edit: I'm aware that the numbers in the ICU cannot compare directly because the pool of vaccinated people is much bigger. But there's rapid growth among the vaccinated who end up in the ICU or dead right now. That's because millions of elderly have had their shots over six months ago. So in the comming weeks we'll probably see a development that moves more towards the general distribution in the population with more vaccinated than unvaccinated dying. The vaccines wane too fast. That's the part that nobody saw coming quite so early. We saw it coming early enough to do something about it with booster shots but the German government dragged their feet. Again. And now soon there'll be many deaths again that could have been prevented. The data isn't THAT new. I think it is partly waning efficacy and partly the fact that even at peak protection, none of the vaccines are a magic shield. It has always been possible to get Covid - Delta, in particular - while fully vaxxed. Lower probability, to be sure, but still very possible. The key thing with it is that it greatly reduces severity and your likelihood of passing it on to someone else. The average age of our hospitalisations is creeping up, as well. Boosters should help, I hope, but it may be that there are no good roads out of this mess. We may only have bad options to choose from.
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Post by rewindbutton on Nov 23, 2021 8:33:41 GMT
there literally isn't enough information to make a solid case for or against the vaccines (any of them) At this point we know for sure that when fully vaccinated, the Pfizer jab gives about 80% protection against the more severe form of covid. So I respect the choice of anyone who chooses to take the vaccine As do I, whether you take it or not. It is not for me to dictate policy; all I can do is advice people to the best of my professional knowledge. Talk to your doctors or other trusted medical professionals. Just make sure the information you get is reputable. Well this, thank you for this.
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Post by rewindbutton on Nov 23, 2021 8:43:41 GMT
Some local news: My wife's friend's family has covid. Their son caught it in school, and soon they all tested positive despite being fully vaccinated. They are now quarantined with flu-like symptoms. Our local hospital gave a statemant, that 90% of their intensive care patients are unvaccinated. The remaining 10% are fully vaccinated and all aged over 70.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 23, 2021 14:32:57 GMT
there literally isn't enough information to make a solid case for or against the vaccines (any of them) At this point we know for sure that when fully vaccinated, the Pfizer jab gives about 80% protection against the more severe form of covid. I'd just want to point out, as devil's advocate, that when first made available, we were told that percentage was darn near 100%. Which just goes to show that we really don't know all the long-term details of the vaccines...
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 23, 2021 15:15:41 GMT
or who don't want to risk their health with a not-fully tested medical procedure. A year and 7.6 billion vaccine shots later - how much tested do people want it to be? And nope, long term side effects are basically not a thing with vaccines in general, side effects appear inside 2 months after the vaccine shot, usually within 2 weeks. Yeah I remembe rbeing out fo rthe coun tfo r2 days after m yfirst jab. Felt fime aftre m ysecond and no tthat long ago had a booster jab and bo tha fte rmy secfomnd and booster jabs I've felt fine. TBH people ae rjust scaremongering and generally I find it bes tjust to ignore them.I fthe ywould rathe rtake a risk of catching the virus and all that comes wit hit then that's their problem. I'fd rathe rkeep myself safe from it especially given I have other health problems such as my disability as well to contend with.
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Post by Syv on Nov 23, 2021 18:11:19 GMT
At this point we know for sure that when fully vaccinated, the Pfizer jab gives about 80% protection against the more severe form of covid. I'd just want to point out, as devil's advocate, that when first made available, we were told that percentage was darn near 100%. Which just goes to show that we really don't know all the long-term details of the vaccines... What we were told : - Immunity if we reach 60% of vaccinated in the country, then 80%, then 90%, then 100% - Once you have the double jab, it's over. Actually we might need a third jab. Eeeh, now, it's we probably need two jabs per year, every six month. - The virus isn't dangerous for children and adolescents, only adults, now we need to protect them, it's also dangerous for them. - Go for moderna vaccine, it' totally okay, now forbidden in several european countries, and in my country, men under ( I don't know why women aren't concerned ) 30 years can't take that vaccine. - Astrazeneca, it's okay, don't worry, there are no side effects for young men ( a lot have terrible side effects because of that ), only for those who are more than 50 years old today. - We were told that once vaccinated, it was very unlikely to be contaminated. Given what is happening nowadays in all european countries, that's just a joke. My girlfriend vaccinated, caught the virus while when she was unvaccinated, she ironically never got it. Two positive cases recently at work, people vaccinated. Friends vaccinated, again positive. -We were told that once vaccinated, you couldn't contaminate others, or anyone else, vaccinate yourself to protect others, that was the most important argument to push younG people ( the variant delta isn't really dangerous to them ) to get them vaccinated. Yup, that's not the case at all, in France, the number of vaccinated has exceeded the number of unvaccinated in hospitals since the 31 october, even if for the moment, unvaccinated are the majority for severe cases.
A lot of mistakes, and yet, you cannot challenge their point of view, otherwise you are a " complotist. " You can't be reasonable, if you aren't 100 % believing what they state at one moment or want more proofs. Because scientifics aren't humans, they know everything, they are like gods, they can't be mistaken, as showed the examples above. There are also a lot of doctors or scientifics that do not necessarily agree with the government, they are silenced or fired. We have almost fallen into obscurantism, where nobody can use his brain, can't challenge the official story, otherwise, you might be immediately attacked. A reverse obscurantism, where what is stated is considered as a religion with fanatism, doubts are forbidden. What said Dragon about proboard, was so ridiculous, I laughed when I read his post. You might be banned for an opinion even if irrelevant and quite dumb, that just shows how absurd the situation is today. A ridiculous opinion, even ridiculous is considered as " threatening " to the absolute truth. This is where we are today.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 23, 2021 23:07:10 GMT
While all of the above is true, what we find out about the virus and the vaccines is constantly changing. Because, yes, the vaccines are an experiment. So I would consider shifting the goal post less insidious lying but adapting to new findings. The vaccines aren't as effective as hoped and wane faster too. Well, shit.
What DOES frustrate me is that politicians don't respond to the changing situation fast enough. They were trying to reward good citizens with unlimited freedom once vaccinated despite data showing that they do spread the virus too. But that would have led to even more distrust. And instead of admitting that they acted too slowly hoping it won't get as bad as some people predicted, they try to blame it all on antivaxxers. Also, healthcare has been made so "efficient" that the real cause of the looming collapse of hospitals isn't the 20% who refuse the shot, it's the very limited capacity for excess ICU patients. I think I read somewhere that Germany's hospitals operate at 90% capacity during flu season. And bad flu seasons already pose a problem any given year. This is by design. This is how they make money. Have as many beds occupied as possible. It doesn't take much to be at 100%. Covid is not that deadly. And yet a virus with a 99% survival rate is enough to bring us to our knees in our oh so great and wealthy nations. THAT is the scandal.
And then our health minister has the audacity to encourage already overworked doctors to "golf less and vaccinate more on Saturdays". Wow, way to shift blame. That's the same person who proclaimed the pandemic is over and we can close most vaccination centers... Unreal.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Dec 2, 2021 23:00:57 GMT
I got my booster today! Got it at the morning, felt sleepy at the afternoon, and now aside from the slighty sore arm, i'm business as usual. But but but! i still remember that the 2nd shot gave me quite the chill to the bones the day after, so i'll be vigilant these next days. Got Paracetamol and Ibuprofeno at hand just in case. Now after 2 shots, COVID and now the booster, i got 7G, my skin is falling off and i'm growing scales (can even hear Soros and Bezos making out at the back of my head), i might be more powerful than the biotic god. Keep safe, don't let your guard down and behave people! will update
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Post by melbella on Dec 3, 2021 1:12:55 GMT
Congrats! My mom and I both have booster appts tomorrow. I figured I better get it on a Friday so I have the weekend to recover and fall asleep whenever I want, just in case.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 3, 2021 2:53:46 GMT
I'm not eligible for my booster until...March? April? I'll have to check. But it looks like 5-11s will be starting in late January. Our youngest is 9, and he's not pleased that "everyone but him is safe"
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Dec 3, 2021 13:00:43 GMT
Congrats! My mom and I both have booster appts tomorrow. I figured I better get it on a Friday so I have the weekend to recover and fall asleep whenever I want, just in case. Nice, also neat thing you can get an appointment there. Here, we have to work with a very strict schedule (ex. this week is for everyone that had the 2nd doses before July the 18th, and each day of the week is for certain etary group, and this will vary if you had the SinoVac vaxx, and there is another schedule for kids and stragglers and blah blah blah).
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 3, 2021 13:09:53 GMT
Germany has completely missed the booster window for the elderly who got their shots early this year and now we're short on vaccines AND staff to deal with millions of eligible people.
Facepalm
People are standing in long lines in the freezing cold at 7 in the morning, hoping to get the shot.
Our government is either grossly incompetent or wants to fix the pension problem by just letting the elderly die...
So basically now politicians are pushing for mandatory vaccinations because they fucked up but they're blaming everyone but themselves for the current avoidable mess we're in.
I can't put into words how disgusted and angry I am at what's happening here.
My mom will probably get her booster next week through connections. It's only been 5 months but better safe than sorry. Her antibodies are still good (1200 BAU) though. So I'm not too worried. Yet. Not sure if omicron will destroy all progress.
I'm 4 months, so there's no need for me to get a booster yet. I wouldn't be able to get an appointment anywhere anyway.
Why we're not having priority groups again is beyond me. There is no need for 20 year olds to demand boosters while the elderly haven't had theirs yet.
And on top of it we might start vaccinating small children. Can we PLEASE have some common sense as to who needs a shot right now?!?
It's a complete and utter mess. I've never been this embarrassed for my country and this disappointed.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 3, 2021 20:11:14 GMT
Sorry to hear that, Kappa. Sounds like a bloody mess. Not what you need heading into winter, I’m sure.
Good that at least your mother might be able to get hers soon, though.
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 5, 2021 9:45:19 GMT
I'm in Germany too and I'm kinda more lucky. My parents all had their booster shots and so does my sister in law since she's medical staff. Fun fact: medical staff are not allowed to refuse treatment to even the most obvious plague birds.
Local doctors and my company are offering booster shots and I could get one if I wanted to, but I'll wait and let the even more elderly have theirs first.
However, none of this is thanks to our cowardly, incompetent government, it's all the result of initiatives taken by local doctors and businesses. The more time passes and the crazier and dumber everything gets out there, the happier I am to live at this particular arse end of nowhere.
But that's typical for all major problems in this country, like the Ahrtal flooding and such: the government mucks about uselessly while volunteers sort it out.
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Post by Beerfish on Dec 6, 2021 5:12:17 GMT
I just booked my booster shot for this Friday.
Give me all the needles!
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 6, 2021 17:32:44 GMT
My company is offering booster shots as well. But only after 5 months. And only 30 (for several hundred employees). I'm pleasantly surprised they're offering it already though.
I hope they'll finally start working on a better vaccine instead of selling booster shots every few months just because that makes them more money. Wasn't the great thing about RNA that you can easily change it if needed? This second delta wave wouldn't be so bad if we had a delta specific vaccine. Pfizer had the prototype on a shelf for months and just decided nope. Old one is good enough. *sigh*
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Post by dragontartare on Dec 6, 2021 17:49:44 GMT
My company is offering booster shots as well. But only after 5 months. And only 30 (for several hundred employees). I'm pleasantly surprised they're offering it already though. I hope they'll finally start working on a better vaccine instead of selling booster shots every few months just because that makes them more money. Wasn't the great thing about RNA that you can easily change it if needed? This second delta wave wouldn't be so bad if we had a delta specific vaccine. Pfizer had the prototype on a shelf for months and just decided nope. Old one is good enough. *sigh* I mean, if they made a new one for every new variant, they would be selling those anyway That said, I thought I read that omicron spreads faster, but is less severe than previous variants. If that's true (and if it keeps being true for new variants) then hopefully we can get to the point of this being no different than a yearly flu shot.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 6, 2021 22:34:56 GMT
My company is offering booster shots as well. But only after 5 months. And only 30 (for several hundred employees). I'm pleasantly surprised they're offering it already though. I hope they'll finally start working on a better vaccine instead of selling booster shots every few months just because that makes them more money. Wasn't the great thing about RNA that you can easily change it if needed? This second delta wave wouldn't be so bad if we had a delta specific vaccine. Pfizer had the prototype on a shelf for months and just decided nope. Old one is good enough. *sigh* I mean, if they made a new one for every new variant, they would be selling those anyway That said, I thought I read that omicron spreads faster, but is less severe than previous variants. If that's true (and if it keeps being true for new variants) then hopefully we can get to the point of this being no different than a yearly flu shot. I read that as well, although they were all very careful to stress that that was just an impression based on the initial data and that the tiny handful - relatively speaking - of cases wasn't enough to be certain of that (the higher transmissibility but lesser severity) yet. Hopefully it turns out to be true, though. That would be great. Insofar as anything about this fucking thing has been good.
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Post by rewindbutton on Dec 7, 2021 9:45:11 GMT
As a Westerner, it's easy to forget that there is a massive shortage of vaccines in the world. I hope they'll finally start working on a better vaccine instead of selling booster shots every few months just because that makes them more money. I assure you it's not about money; current vaccines are plenty efficient against the delta variant. A new jab would have to be tested and approved first, which would take months and require a lot of money and effort. Companies are better served getting ready for the next variant. Wasn't the great thing about RNA that you can easily change it if needed? Apparently in 100 days, but I would take this figure with a massive pinch of salt. I'd say we lucked out there.
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Post by rewindbutton on Dec 7, 2021 9:50:31 GMT
hopefully we can get to the point of this being no different than a yearly flu shot. There are hundreds of coronaviruses in circulation all the time; all they cause is a common cold. There are predictions that this is the future of covid as well. Here's hoping.
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