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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 12, 2020 1:06:17 GMT
It's not good for either company to be launching such big titles back to back, especially when gamers will be saving up for the new consoles. One of them is going to get bumped. Fair point, I didn't think about next gen consoles. That said, it's not like the game is not going to be available down the road.
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Post by dazk on Jul 12, 2020 1:24:18 GMT
I was hoping for an Oct. release as well (like a month before CP). I'm sure Ubi is going to bump Valhalla, it's just a question of how far. They should make it October 9 aka Leif Erikson Day. That'd be great!!!!
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Post by dazk on Jul 12, 2020 1:26:26 GMT
If that's the case, I can see why there were the reports of Ubisoft being upset at CDPR delaying Cyberpunk 2077 until November 19th. Also that scene with her putting the hood on makes me wonder if we'll be able to see our headgear in cutscenes this time. I see no reason why both games can't co-exist-- even days apart. True, I 'll think there will be some over lap in terms of people playing both but I would imagine they are going for slightly different market segments. I will be waiting for Valhalla and not playing Cyberpunk till well after that unless Valhalla is pushed way back.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 12, 2020 1:29:34 GMT
It's not good for either company to be launching such big titles back to back, especially when gamers will be saving up for the new consoles. One of them is going to get bumped. Fair point, I didn't think about next gen consoles. That said, it's not like the game is not going to be available down the road. That's true, but IIRC publishers typically expect something like 1/2 their sales come in a relatively short amount of time. The first month I think. Some games obviously have longer/shorter legs, but running head-to-head does neither of them any favors, especially with a new console launch.
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Post by dazk on Jul 12, 2020 1:29:59 GMT
It's not good for either company to be launching such big titles back to back, especially when gamers will be saving up for the new consoles. One of them is going to get bumped. But haven't these games been in development for years, how would the new gen consoles feature in the games release date? Sorry if that's a stupid question.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 12, 2020 2:44:56 GMT
Fair point, I didn't think about next gen consoles. That said, it's not like the game is not going to be available down the road. That's true, but IIRC publishers typically expect something like 1/2 their sales come in a relatively short amount of time. The first month I think. Some games obviously have longer/shorter legs, but running head-to-head does neither of them any favors, especially with a new console launch. They're both single player experiences to, so it's not like it's reliant upon a lively player base.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 12, 2020 5:02:31 GMT
Suspecting that Valhalla is 'locked' to the next gen consoles' launch date.
Which makes Cyberpunk a particularly unwelcome guest at this party.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 12, 2020 5:18:54 GMT
Suspecting that Valhalla is 'locked' to the next gen consoles' launch date. Which makes Cyberpunk a particularly unwelcome guest at this party. Possibly, but since it is a cross gen game maybe only the nextgen versions are locked. I’m more curious to see if any release dates change once the new consoles finally get a release date.
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Post by saandrig on Jul 12, 2020 8:35:35 GMT
Fast flowing combat? Wtf are these old school fans smoking? The old combat was mostly slow and predictable QTE prompts. More proof that rose tainted glasses manipulate memories. More seriously, I've read an exchange on another forum and people saying that just prefer cinematic/QTE prompts for combat. Oh and can't viable builds in Origins/Odyssey too. Not to mention social stealth was always a joke, the "complex" parkour was "you can climb here, but not there", literally all games offer you the robe and the hood and so on. If the old games were so good, why did they almost kill the franchise?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 12, 2020 10:24:57 GMT
If the old games were so good, why did they almost kill the franchise? Quite right. By Unity the franchise was in trouble and Syndicate (though I enjoyed it) wasn't the recovery, that was Origins.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 12, 2020 11:12:24 GMT
Who in their right mind would find QTEs fun?
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Post by azarhal on Jul 12, 2020 12:07:11 GMT
More proof that rose tainted glasses manipulate memories. More seriously, I've read an exchange on another forum and people saying that just prefer cinematic/QTE prompts for combat. Oh and can't viable builds in Origins/Odyssey too. Not to mention social stealth was always a joke, the "complex" parkour was "you can climb here, but not there", literally all games offer you the robe and the hood and so on. If the old games were so good, why did they almost kill the franchise? I stopped at the first one because I found it repetitive and boring...only restarted playing AC with Origins and Odyssey. I tried the other ones and I liked Syndicate to, sorta, as I haven't finished it because I can't be bothered to play as Jacob. By the way, I saw a dude complaining about aliens/magitech in AC (on top of being turned into open-world RPGs) and saying it was introduced in Origins/Odyssey. Lets just say he got swarmed by screenshots and gifs from the earlier games real fast...but if that is the norm for the people complaining about the franchise changes, the reasons why they liked the game was clearly not the story/setting.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 12, 2020 15:01:41 GMT
If the old games were so good, why did they almost kill the franchise? Quite right. By Unity the franchise was in trouble and Syndicate (though I enjoyed it) wasn't the recovery, that was Origins. But the old games were so good.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 12, 2020 15:03:27 GMT
But the old games were so good. Yes. And I like most of them. But the formula was tiring and Ubi were getting lambasted for it.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 12, 2020 15:08:01 GMT
Eivor just recruited a cat for her longship... Saying that, how the hell does people endure playing with a controller in 3rd person games? Every time I see such gameplay, it always looks awful because the character is always bumping into walls and clutter.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 12, 2020 16:30:34 GMT
Eivor just recruited a cat for her longship... Is it wrong that I just want a longship full of Raider Cats?
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 12, 2020 16:59:52 GMT
Just a quick reminder that the Ubisoft pre-show starts in about an hour, the main show an hour after that, and then extended Valhalla gameplay after that. www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/forward
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Eivor just recruited a cat for her longship... Is it wrong that I just want a longship full of Raider Cats? I was hoping for the same thing.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jul 12, 2020 17:17:57 GMT
Saying that, how the hell does people endure playing with a controller in 3rd person games? Every time I see such gameplay, it always looks awful because the character is always bumping into walls and clutter. Funny, I always think the same thing when I have to play in 1st person Different strokes for different folks and all that. Also, cat recruitment? GOAT!
ETA: I liked the old games just fine. I had no problem with them at all. That said, I liked Origins and Odyssey just fine too.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 12, 2020 17:43:52 GMT
Saying that, how the hell does people endure playing with a controller in 3rd person games? Every time I see such gameplay, it always looks awful because the character is always bumping into walls and clutter. Funny, I always think the same thing when I have to play in 1st person Different strokes for different folks and all that. I think using a controller in 1st person game is just as bad. I only think they works great for platformers.
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Damn those look incredible.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 12, 2020 18:20:37 GMT
Funny, I always think the same thing when I have to play in 1st person Different strokes for different folks and all that. I think using a controller in 1st person game is just as bad. I only think they works great for platformers. I'm all about the KB&M but it reminded there was one area I plugged the controller in for in Unity. After unlocking the 3rd door to get the caged armor, you had to climb along the walls with the annoying steam vents. It was just easier with the controller...
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