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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 8:37:35 GMT
Was really hoping they'd introduce the Transmog right from the start. Hey can you get rid of the weapons you collect that you don't want to keep? Unfortunately no. You are stuck with every piece of gear. Hopefully they will give us a storage chest where we can offload them. Or at least give us the Odyssey's "by type" ordering. Every time I try to switch weapons I am hit by a complete mess of items. And apparently you can't preview the items in Shops, so it's better to save/load when buying if you want to see the gear details. Btw, the Legendary Bear is awesome. Pretty easy fight, but the room setup and Eivor's comment are worth it. The Legendary Wolf on the other hand... now there is a bunch of sons of bitches.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 9:05:59 GMT
One thing that differs from Odyssey is the fact that this game doesn't hold your hand. You have to figure some things out, and it's crucial you pay attention, particularly in the side quests. There's no box or question mark to lead you there. I really like this change. You have to actually listen to NPCs' words and concerns and take logical action based upon what they've said. Pretty cool. These brief, stand alone stories are way better than the repetitive map-clearing of every prior AC. However this can lead to quest glitching. I already talked about it in the other thread, but to repeat - don't touch anything in the warehouse, full of smelly jars, near the Lunden dock until a man appears inside. Reloading and coming back later doesn't fix it. And there are a bunch of quest Mysteries which appear to be broken (they are not) because there is absolutely zero clue what is expected of you. You can never figure how to complete one of them, unless you take a specific path and go quite a bit away from the quest marker. Yeah, I was stubborn 😁 And even then it glitched and I had to reload, but that's another issue. One Mystery didn't complete after I done everything that was hinted at. Apparently I had to circle the area to look for a follow up trigger, which was never clued about. But so far I didn't see a broken quest, except the Lunden glitch. And I have done every area up to and including the 130 Power ones (65 hours). So if you see a quest that doesn't complete, keep looking.
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Post by dazk on Nov 16, 2020 9:18:36 GMT
Was really hoping they'd introduce the Transmog right from the start. Hey can you get rid of the weapons you collect that you don't want to keep? Unfortunately no. You are stuck with every piece of gear. Hopefully they will give us a storage chest where we can offload them. Or at least give us the Odyssey's "by type" ordering. Every time I try to switch weapons I am hit by a complete mess of items. And apparently you can't preview the items in Shops, so it's better to save/load when buying if you want to see the gear details. Btw, the Legendary Bear is awesome. Pretty easy fight, but the room setup and Eivor's comment are worth it. The Legendary Wolf on the other hand... now there is a bunch of sons of bitches. Well that sucks re the gear. I have refused to buy any weapons or armour because you can't preview it, how is that a good idea to implement?????? Are yo talking about the legendary bear gear? I have been sticking with the Raven stuff and have upgraded it as far as I can so far. What do you mean re the Wolf stuff?
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Post by dazk on Nov 16, 2020 9:20:07 GMT
I really like this change. You have to actually listen to NPCs' words and concerns and take logical action based upon what they've said. Pretty cool. These brief, stand alone stories are way better than the repetitive map-clearing of every prior AC. However this can lead to quest glitching. I already talked about it in the other thread, but to repeat - don't touch anything in the warehouse, full of smelly jars, near the Lunden dock until a man appears inside. Reloading and coming back later doesn't fix it. And there are a bunch of quest Mysteries which appear to be broken (they are not) because there is absolutely zero clue what is expected of you. You can never figure how to complete one of them, unless you take a specific path and go quite a bit away from the quest marker. Yeah, I was stubborn 😁 And even then it glitched and I had to reload, but that's another issue. One Mystery didn't complete after I done everything that was hinted at. Apparently I had to circle the area to look for a follow up trigger, which was never clued about. But so far I didn't see a broken quest, except the Lunden glitch. And I have done every area up to and including the 130 Power ones (65 hours). So if you see a quest that doesn't complete, keep looking. I am putting off the Mysteries as I am focusing on the Wealth missions, sounds like I made a good choice.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 9:38:57 GMT
Well that sucks re the gear. I have refused to buy any weapons or armour because you can't preview it, how is that a good idea to implement?????? Are yo talking about the legendary bear gear? I have been sticking with the Raven stuff and have upgraded it as far as I can so far. What do you mean re the Wolf stuff? I am referring to the Legendary Animals you hunt. The Bear is actually a bit hidden in a weird place, compared to the rest, but it makes sense when you find it. Anyone else breaking the church windows? Just because of the satisfying sound? I swear, it's not a religious statement! The opening of an alternative route is just a bonus. I also like the snow sounds while you walk in Norway. It's so real that throws me back to my childhood when I loved that sound of moving in a knee deep snow.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 9:59:55 GMT
I am putting off the Mysteries as I am focusing on the Wealth missions, sounds like I made a good choice. Most Mysteries are not quests - cairn/mushroom/image puzzles, altar offerings, Layla sections, etc. And most quest ones are easy, but occasionally there is a tough nut, which you can leave for later.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 10:17:48 GMT
BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.
Discovered something useful by accident (again), just like I found the falling down exploit.
So, raiding a monastery, mayhem, fire, the usual. I use my upgraded Valkyrie jump (does AOE stun) on a bunch of packed soldiers and IT BROKE the bar FROM OUTSIDE at a nearby barred door. Hello, new way to circumvent some annoying puzzles 😁
And apparently a spear (maybe other 2h weapons too) can do the same from outside the door with regular attacks, but it either requires positioning or doesn't work on all barred doors. I managed to do it a few times and get the loot in the true "Viking" way of SMASH!
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Nov 16, 2020 10:23:33 GMT
Stupid mystery. It's a fishing trip. bah. Not going to do. I dislike fishing stuff. I tried shooting at the fish, got three but the stupid girl said Eivor's no help. I supposed since she said her brother was turned into a fish, shooting meant I killed him. Ha.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 10:28:15 GMT
Stupid mystery. It's a fishing trip. bah. Not going to do. I dislike fishing stuff. I tried shooting at the fish, got three but the stupid girl said Eivor's no help. I supposed since she said her brother was turned into a fish, shooting meant I killed him. Ha. Yeah, mandatory usage of the fishing rope for a Mystery is the dumbest quest I found thus far. There are a few other "fishing" ones, but you can end them quick by going in the shallow bit and spearing the required fish in a few seconds. Pretty good and fast way to make money too, especially at the Norwick dock. Wait till you have to gather Order clues by winning at dice and drinking.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Nov 16, 2020 11:58:40 GMT
Stupid mystery. It's a fishing trip. bah. Not going to do. I dislike fishing stuff. I tried shooting at the fish, got three but the stupid girl said Eivor's no help. I supposed since she said her brother was turned into a fish, shooting meant I killed him. Ha. Yeah, mandatory usage of the fishing rope for a Mystery is the dumbest quest I found thus far. There are a few other "fishing" ones, but you can end them quick by going in the shallow bit and spearing the required fish in a few seconds. Pretty good and fast way to make money too, especially at the Norwick dock. Wait till you have to gather Order clues by winning at dice and drinking. This is stupid. Play dice and drinking? I'm leaving the killing of zealots till the very last. If I find the dice aggravating, I may not finish this game at all and that'll be a pity since I like Eivor and want to see the end of her story. ... well, actually, she ended up dead at America so I guess she's one of those Vikings who went travelling farther than usual. I wish the devs follow CDPR game Thronebreaker. Puzzles and card battles can be skipped if the player just want the story. In this case, have the option of just simply skipping dice games if it's tied into the story. So, they have committed three bad game design decisions; tying mysteries and story to three features that's unwanted by a portion of the player base. Dice, fishing, no assassination of zealots.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 16, 2020 12:16:41 GMT
Ok I have 7 hours into Valhalla now, still in the Norway region but I believe I'm pretty close to leaving it and advancing the story. I kept trying to do a mushroom marker and it kicked my ass very badly, then l figured I'll just lvl up a little more. Later on I found out it's in a 280 power zone while I'm 20ish.... So yea, I guess I'll come back to that after 30 hours of gameplay 🤷 however long it takes me to get to 280.
Anyway, a few critiques I have:
*The fog over the skill trees. I can't pre plan unless I look up a guide online, I'm so curious what gave them the idea to do such a terrible design on that and hopefully they remove the fog later.
*I'm not sure random side quests are marked or listed in the quest log. Either I'm blind or it's somewhere else, I can't track all the random quests like getting 3 antlers (I know I have one for sure). If they actually don't show that stuff, then that's an even dumber design choice. What happens when you take a few days off from the game and you just can't remember what you was doing?
*Using a hunting bow I was in 3pp but I found a recurve bow that forces me into 1pp and to that I say heck no and I changed bows. I don't want that forced on me and I'll just end up using a weaker hunting bow as long as it's in 3pp.
That's about all I have for gripes
I'm still loving the soundtrack, the game itself looks beautiful and I knew my girlfriend would like it, she won't play it but she's into watching me so I'll be restarting over for her to see the story from the start👍 she's into all the clothing everyone wears as well. I also like how brutal the combat is and I'm definitely looking forward to getting more abilities to use. I also like that some markers take a little thinking to find, there was one ingot next to a tilted tree in a mountain that had a little narrow path just enough for my character to fit and a bend around it with the cave. It took me like 30+ minutes of going in circles, using the bird various times and climbing the damn mountain 3 times before I found it but I like it, I just hope it doesn't become obnoxious and I have to do it so many times to spend so long to find them.
Story wise I'll say I like it, I'll actually post my thoughts on that once I finish the game in the spoiler thread down the road. For now I'm avoiding that thread till i beat it.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 12:42:56 GMT
*I'm not sure random side quests are marked or listed in the quest log. Either I'm blind or it's somewhere else, I can't track all the random quests like getting 3 antlers (I know I have one for sure). If they actually don't show that stuff, then that's an even dumber design choice. What happens when you take a few days off from the game and you just can't remember what you was doing? The one with the antlers add an item in your inventory in the "quest item" section with the info. Most of the mysteries (what people call side quests despite most of them not really qualifying) are done exactly where you get them and take like 5 minutes to do. They also "reset" if you go away and leave a marker on the map that only go away once you finish them. The real side quest have quest log entries. So far, they all have been tied to Ravensthorpe.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 13:03:00 GMT
Interesting that people are getting crashes. I played the game the entire weekend and I had 0 crashes so far. *lucky* *crossing fingers* I still haven't found a two-handed sword and I really want to try one (there is one sold at merchants but I want to find my gear), but then I'm still "early" in the game despite being power level 80 now. I'm not done with Ledecestrescire yet. Edit. And I'm still not getting a single piece of cloth from the chests. So I'm stuck at 18 arrows after more than 45 hours of play. Material tiers match certain power level range. Cloth is tier 2 and found in 100+ areas up to at least 250 (as I got some in the raid I did yesterday). Saying that, the upgrade is just a +2 hunting arrows (18 -> 20), not exactly something you should focus so much energy on.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 13:11:22 GMT
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 13:26:06 GMT
Interesting that people are getting crashes. I played the game the entire weekend and I had 0 crashes so far. *lucky* *crossing fingers* I still haven't found a two-handed sword and I really want to try one I had a few crashes in 65 hours, most of them happening in a row, so it might have been the area. It prompted me to remove the unskippable game intros 😇 I have at least two swords (and a few daggers, called Seax, lol, took me a while to figure that one). Maybe more, it's hard to tell from all the weapon clutter. I used one in each hand at some point, but their effect wasn't good for me, so I will wait for something better. Now I am at two axes that increase speed and attack with each hit.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 13:58:01 GMT
I just read that when you get a letter from someone you helped and they mention you should visit. You should visit them. That's not tracked, as it's just some small scenes/content. Saying that, I was going to do that anyway to see if they had more stuff to say after even if I didn't receive a letter to tell me... Now I am at two axes that increase speed and attack with each hit. Axes seems the best weapons so far. Nice balance between damage, stun and speed. I'm still running axe/shield. I always come back to it...
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 14:20:27 GMT
The combat gets a bit more mayhem at higher levels and gives less feel of control than Odyssey. Eivor throws projectiles back at archers, grabs fallen weapons to throw randomly around. Enemies spawn and enter offscreen with unexpected attacks from all sides, reminding me of DA2.
The finisher close ups completely take you out of the current action and you have to take your bearings after each, especially the one where Eivor beats the crap out of a knight with his own 2h sword. I mean, ok, they look cool, but when the finisher takes more time than the kill, it gets annoying. And when you get a finisher after a finisher against a gang of enemies... At least the bow is fast... unless you pick and use the skill for bow finishers!
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 15:09:58 GMT
The combat gets a bit more mayhem at higher levels and gives less feel of control than Odyssey. Eivor throws projectiles back at archers, grabs fallen weapons to throw randomly around. Enemies spawn and enter offscreen with unexpected attacks from all sides, reminding me of DA2. The finisher close ups completely take you out of the current action and you have to take your bearings after each, especially the one where Eivor beats the crap out of a knight with his own 2h sword. I mean, ok, they look cool, but when the finisher takes more time than the kill, it gets annoying. And when you get a finisher after a finisher against a gang of enemies... At least the bow is fast... unless you pick and use the skill for bow finishers! I like the missiles redirection ability. Finishers are mostly manually triggered ( outside the bow ability) so avoidable as you can just continue hitting the enemies with normal attacks. The only case where they auto trigger is when your last hit stun and kill the person at the same time (or something like that). The most annoying part of finishers: auto-loot doesn't work with them and enemies killed via finishers takes a while to be lootable. But then auto-loot doesn't return arrows so you have to go to the corpse anyway... Also, about finishers, always try to keep the enemies in front of you. Makes following combat easier. Unless it's a siege, when doing those just focus on the objectives, as the generic enemies respawns until you complete them anyway. Raids are a bit more chaotic unless you clear the place before calling your raiders. My current main issues is that enemies sometimes flies when I hit them. Which makes all the complains I'm reading about "lack of impact" in combat on the internet weird. Actually, most of the people complaining about the combat in Valhalla makes me wonder what game they are playing. It reads as if they are only using light attacks and nothing else.
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Post by Frost on Nov 16, 2020 15:34:36 GMT
Thanks! Currently still using the same armor from the beginning of the game. This game needs more loot!
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Post by saandrig on Nov 16, 2020 15:41:24 GMT
A boss (not saying who even here, since it's a big spoiler, but all of you should see it coming) stopped in the middle of the fight to ask me something. I get the dialogue options, but by the time I even read them, the dialogue option changed to "Dodge" for a milisecond and then I got hit by a sneak attack. I thought it was a clever little QTE to portrait a sneaky bastard.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 15:46:55 GMT
I did a tour of the active abilities and Blinding Rush looks a bit OP with the upgrade. Stamina recharge fast and assassinating an enemy recharge one full adrenaline gauge which is what it cost to use an active. So you get constant usage of moving around undetected as long as you assassinate everything fast. Thanks! Currently still using the same armor from the beginning of the game. This game needs more loot! You'll be complaining about having too much loot half-way, as you can't remove items from the inventory. I already have too many weapons (that I don't plan to use) and I'm still in the starting England areas (power level 20). The issues is that everything is spread across the whole game and it's a loooooong game.
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Post by Frost on Nov 16, 2020 15:57:00 GMT
Thanks! Currently still using the same armor from the beginning of the game. This game needs more loot! You'll be complaining about having too much loot half-way, as you can't remove items from the inventory. I already have too many weapons (that I don't plan to use) and I'm still in the starting England areas (power level 20). The issues is that everything is spread across the whole game and it's a loooooong game. I doubt I will be complaining about too much loot! The problem is that you can't sell it, not that you get too much. I miss the armor system from Odyssey.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 16:49:56 GMT
You'll be complaining about having too much loot half-way, as you can't remove items from the inventory. I already have too many weapons (that I don't plan to use) and I'm still in the starting England areas (power level 20). The issues is that everything is spread across the whole game and it's a loooooong game. I doubt I will be complaining about too much loot! The problem is that you can't sell it, not that you get too much. I miss the armor system from Odyssey. Not being able to sell them probably has something to do with all of them being unique and if the players end up wanting to change build they wouldn't have the weapons to do so if they could discard them. What the game really need are weapon racks and dummies in the longhouse at Ravensthorpe so we can display our weapons and armors.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 16, 2020 16:53:12 GMT
Has anyone played with the aim assist option on PC? I left mine at the default value, but I'm wondering if that might be causing some issues. I know there are a few games where I have to turn it off, it's just make aiming with a mouse harder, lol. I think I disabled it in Origins actually.
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