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Post by Element Zero on Jul 11, 2020 4:04:54 GMT
As for Abby’s design, I don’t care what anyone says, I think it’s stupid that they made her so jacked. More than that, I’m more than convinced that they purposefully made her this bulky to get a heavily polarized reaction out of everyone. I don’t buy for a second that they didn’t intend to have her......robust physique...add to the players’ response to the events of the game, because physically, it makes this seemingly villainous character look even more imposing, thus giving the player more to hate. They probably had this brilliant idea that they would ride between the extremes of like and dislike, and the rewind in time would serve to temper the negative feelings toward the character over time. It’s just too bad that first impressions are the most important. If someone killed my cat, I wouldn’t care if I learned that they were typically a pretty ok person that fed orphans or something. I’d still break something important. I can't really say why they designed her the way they did, and I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about her physique. I will say that I am glad they made her larger and more imposing than Ellie. Coupled with the skill and equipment variation between the two, it added to the sense of being in someone else's shoes. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered if she were a skinny runt like Ellie, but I suspect that would've felt slightly more "samey". It probably wouldn't have struck me or negatively impacted my enjoyment, but I appreciate the positive impact of the differing silhouettes/builds. The point at which it really struck me most fully was when I'd led Abby full circle to the scene in the theater. Seeing Ellie again after a number of hours, she looked like such a tiny little thing. She IS a skinny, 19yo girl, not at all physically imposing. It's easy for that to slip into the back of the mind as we see (and do) all the crazy violence she brings. Seeing her from Abby's perspective, though, was a sudden reset. That was cool.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 11, 2020 4:48:39 GMT
Abby holding a knife to Dina is waaaaay later in the story, isn't unprovoked, and there's very strong correlation to other events that just transpired. It in no way interferes with building empathy for Abby. If you don't like her or empathize with her by that point, you never were going to feel it. If you do, then you completely get her emotions in that scene and you're probably yelling at her (in your mind or aloud), "Don't do it. Put it down." Ellie: "Don't! She's pregnant!" Abby: "That didn't stop you." *slits Dina's throat* Also I disagree it doesn't interfere with building empathy. Her sparing Dina and her child as you say is a correlation to Ellie killing Mel and her child, and is one that paints Abby in a positive light because "Hey, at least she's not a baby killer like Ellie." Edit: You're most likely correct about the difference in build being meant to individualize both characters. Disagree about everything else like it being a well-written story (kid's stories tell it better) or all the characters and all their actions being believable.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 11, 2020 8:48:37 GMT
Anyone else in that post Last of Us 2 stage where every game looks and feels like shit in comparison? It's a similar feeling to when I finished Red Dead 2, and the Mass Effect OG trilogy. I just tried playing AC Odyssey and yuck. No, but then again the story failed pretty hard for me so I just finished Mass Effect 3 again and enjoyed that more. My sympathies.
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Post by natetrace on Jul 16, 2020 22:12:11 GMT
Nothing to say yet as I am still in the Jackson, Wyoming section, but I hope to beat this before summer ends. Kind of hard to get a lot of gaming done during the pandemic and summer with me being an essential employee and the kids home.
Enjoying it so far. I am aware of a lot though between leaks and spoilers posted all over.
I will say I have seen some people say Joel is the bad guy or made the wrong choice at the end of 1, and I feel like just about any parent would make the same decision Joel did.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 17, 2020 13:59:41 GMT
I've come up with some drinking games:
Take a drink every time:
- You almost or accidentally shoot Dina thinking she's an enemy.
- You go to turn on your flashlight to see better only to realize that it's already on.
- You open a door or squeeze through an opening, only to be immediately attacked, knocked unconscious, captured, and subsequently escape over the duration of a single cut-scene.
If you don't want to get drunk, take a drink every time:
- The game gives you a feeling of hope about the future of humanity.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jul 17, 2020 17:54:23 GMT
I'm on my third playthrough now, hunting down all the artifacts/journal entries and such, and it's been interesting finding all the little story and character beats that I missed the first couple of times. The first has to do with Ellie and Dina: It turns out that Dina has been crushing on Ellie since pretty much the start, back when Ellie returned to Jackson with Joel. She wouldn't hang out with Cat and Ellie because she was jealous. This kind of explains why Dina jumped at the chance to kiss Ellie as soon as they were both single (as opposed to her being a hooooooooooor ) The other has to do with Abby and Owen:
In retrospect, this one should have been more obvious to me just from the story cutscenes, but I didn't pick up on it until replay. Owen has never gotten over Abby and has wanted to be with her the whole time. Once you know about it, it becomes really obvious in the scene between them at the beginning that neither of them has really moved on from their relationship. Mel was pretty much doomed from the start, emotionally speaking.
I suppose those may have already come up before, I've avoided everything related to TLOU 2 until I could put a couple of playthroughs behind me.
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Post by Noxluxe on Jul 18, 2020 19:57:45 GMT
I wasn't going to get it, because it sounds mostly like a dour, preachy lootfest where every woman is superman and every guy gets his brains blown out for shock value to keep him out of the way while identity politics rule the roost.
Then I watched some gameplay that juxtaposed Ellie creeping around in the tall grass to avoid a fight with Abby going apeshit on a bunch of clickers with those guns of hers, and that kind of tipped me over the fence from 'life's too short' to 'I'll give it a shot when it goes on sale'.
Not having seen or played any real amount of Abby gameplay, I think her build looks ridiculous but I can sorta imagine it working as a tragic illustration for how much she's let the need for revenge warp her after her dad's death. Because there's just no way she could possibly have had a life in-between scavenging post-apocalyptica for any and every remaining source of protein while bench-pressing in preparation for killing Joel.
If the writing bears that out and shows how awkward and unnatural and beyond the pale she must seem to everyone else then I can swallow that. If it's just a 'she's awesome and big and strong just like an awesome strong guy because women can be just as strong as men if they want to and women having enormous biceps is perfectly normal and how dare you even notice them' thing then yeah, what a crock of shit.
Joel's death doesn't sound like it was handled too well, and I'll definitely be missing him, but it also sounds like he shows up a bunch in flashbacks?
My absolute main concern is that I'll find Dina boring as hell as a replacement. It doesn't sound like there's much in the way of sparky chemistry or real inter-character conflict between her and Ellie, and there won't even be a sweet, romantic 'will they or won't they' tension as it seems like they get together and bump uglies right off the bat and Ellie is too crushed from Joel's death to be anything other than dour afterwards.
A couple of wasted opportunities there, in my opinion. I could definitely have gone for Ellie crushing on a pretty girl and having to awkwardly woo her in that way she has on their journey throughout the game while growing to like her crush along with her, instead of seeing them get together at the start and then spending the entire game wondering why on Earth I should give a damn.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 18, 2020 23:11:39 GMT
ND should not have shown Joel in scenes that he ended up not actually being in for the trailers, essentially punking people into believing his role was going to be bigger than it was. Movies might get away with little vignette-type scenes that don’t actually exist in the film (Pixar films have done this), but I just don’t see this tactic ever working out for a game these days.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 19, 2020 19:26:40 GMT
ND should not have shown Joel in scenes that he ended up not actually being in for the trailers, essentially punking people into believing his role was going to be bigger than it was. Movies might get away with little vignette-type scenes that don’t actually exist in the film (Pixar films have done this), but I just don’t see this tactic ever working out for a game these days. Hideo Kojima got into trouble with the promotion for one of the Metal Gear games for doing the same thing too and that was years ago.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jul 21, 2020 9:17:46 GMT
ND should not have shown Joel in scenes that he ended up not actually being in for the trailers, essentially punking people into believing his role was going to be bigger than it was. Movies might get away with little vignette-type scenes that don’t actually exist in the film (Pixar films have done this), but I just don’t see this tactic ever working out for a game these days. Well this vid sums up most of it.
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 2, 2020 10:23:22 GMT
Why you're making a big deal out of me reporting it? I wasn't making a huge deal of what you shared, I was just trying to make any sense of the point you were making. To be fair, some of the bigoted 'fans' who took issue with TLOUII are well worth bashing (other fans made legitimate critical points about story structure). I can understand why Twitch might be 'sensitive' of people using slurs on their platform. I haven't seen Ghost of Tsushima fans criticised, that's an excellent game. I looked at criticism towards the sequel. And none of them hating on the game out of "bigotry". It's the way how the story was executed, and characters are handled in the game that got a lot of people upset. Such as bad pacing, forced narratives, shock value, etc. While journalists (and Druckmann) criticize gamers who don't like the game generalize them as "haters". And on top of that, Sony contacted Vice about they don't like the review they gave the sequel. Which tells me they despise criticism. That rings a lot of bells.
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 2, 2020 10:29:52 GMT
Here's a vid. To understand exactly what she said. Twitch removed her ban after 8 hours. No explanations. Well, she's not wrong.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 8, 2020 19:26:43 GMT
I finally got the game and played it through this week of personal hell for me, which was a probably mistake on my part, because I was already so physically and emotional exhausted by my personal problems (these were problems that I knew were coming and it's just the emotional and physical toll that took a lot out of me) and also having been spoiled by various YouTube videos and articles about it. That I felt like at times "WTF is every one's problems with this game?" and other times I was really hooked into in the story. I think I liked Abby's story better than Ellie. I left thinking it's a not bad game although IMHO the combat was extremely clunky, and some of it I found unintentionally funny like the backpacks and all the weapons, and stuff that Ellie and Abby carry, I do like that they made the traditional looking female Ellie a lesbian, and the more masculine Abby straight I don't why but the thought of that brings a smile to my face I don't know why but it does but IMHO it's not a great game either.
It's a good game, also since I never played the first one so I came into this universe kind of not of knowing much about the backstory but the game got me up to speed about it. Maybe if and when I get a bigger hard drive for my PS4 (hopefully next week but we will see) I'll do New Game+ second PT and try it again.
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Post by Psychevore on Aug 10, 2020 13:10:21 GMT
I wasn't making a huge deal of what you shared, I was just trying to make any sense of the point you were making. To be fair, some of the bigoted 'fans' who took issue with TLOUII are well worth bashing (other fans made legitimate critical points about story structure). I can understand why Twitch might be 'sensitive' of people using slurs on their platform. I haven't seen Ghost of Tsushima fans criticised, that's an excellent game. I looked at criticism towards the sequel. And none of them hating on the game out of "bigotry". It's the way how the story was executed, and characters are handled in the game that got a lot of people upset. Such as bad pacing, forced narratives, shock value, etc. While journalists (and Druckmann) criticize gamers who don't like the game generalize them as "haters". And on top of that, Sony contacted Vice about they don't like the review they gave the sequel. Which tells me they despise criticism. That rings a lot of bells. You didn't look very hard, did you?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 13, 2020 8:06:49 GMT
I never see anyone in here complaining when *male* characters in post-apocalypse scenarios look like they swallowed a sack of footballs when they, by all rights, should more closely resemble Christian Bale in The Machinist.
"Well maybe if they SHOWED Abby working out constantly and hogging all the chicken breast..." that's easy enough to infer, isn't it? What the fuck else is she meant to be doing with her free time?
"You know, maybe I'll skip leg day and snuggle up with a pint of Chunky Monkey and binge Golden Girls on Netfli... oh right, SOCIETY FUCKING COLLAPSED."
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 14, 2020 11:13:56 GMT
I looked at criticism towards the sequel. And none of them hating on the game out of "bigotry". It's the way how the story was executed, and characters are handled in the game that got a lot of people upset. Such as bad pacing, forced narratives, shock value, etc. While journalists (and Druckmann) criticize gamers who don't like the game generalize them as "haters". And on top of that, Sony contacted Vice about they don't like the review they gave the sequel. Which tells me they despise criticism. That rings a lot of bells. You didn't look very hard, did you? I'm just telling my side of the story and it is a divisive game after all. The memes are funny, though. However, I know about the death threats to the actress who plays Abby from idiots on Twitter. And threaten to kill her baby, on top of that. They're bunch of dumb ass motherfuckers who can't separate reality from fiction. Look, I understand why a lot of fans are very upset how the game was written, but resorting to death threats is wrong. She doesn't deserve any of this, and it's never her fault that she played a hated character that was written by Druckmann.
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 14, 2020 13:34:16 GMT
In Hong Kong and Taiwan, it seems the game is just sitting there in the stores that one shop in Taiwan is offering customers TLoU II for free if they buy three games. Not confirmed, retailers in Taiwan are bundling TLoU II with Nintendo Switch Animal Crossing NH edition. If customers don't want the TLoU II copy, they have to pay US$33. It's in the States, too. As a matter of fact, I was in Wal-Mart this week and there is a bunch of copies of Last of Us 2 untouched. And they have only 6 copies left of Ghost of Tsushima.
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 14, 2020 13:47:34 GMT
I think you've misunderstood the point of the video. In my view (and those of the many) the game is a near masterpiece. There are many bigoted assholes fanning the flames against this wonderful game, as well as many people who have fair and genuine opinions why they don't enjoy the game (which is fair enough). Suffice to say some fans are well beyond reason in their reaction to the game, but I think these sorts of statements, whether intentional or not, sell this narrative that perhaps the “bigotry” at play here is a primary motivator for a lot of the negative criticism around the game. It’s something that I’m sure the likes of Naughty Dog themselves would love people to believe, because it would assure them that they did in fact do a great job, but most of the detractors are just dumb bigots who can’t handle all this boldness. It couldn’t possibly be something like miscalculated story writing, or cheap attempts to manipulate the emotions of the audience, and largely failing to do so. It kind of reminds me of the conclusion to the Evangelion series. The show’s budget pretty much ran dry, and the director essentially just slapped together this incoherent mess to just get it over with. Fans were pissed, and some people actually sent death threats. Wrong as it is to threaten the lives of anyone, especially over something as inconsequential as a stupid anime series, it doesn’t change the fact that the show’s ending sucked, and clearly showed a lack of effort as the result of a lack of budget to put it together properly, and that fans by and large were just thoroughly unhappy with what the studio did with it. It eventually led to a revised ending in the form of a movie. Exactly!!
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 14, 2020 14:08:25 GMT
Do people think the perception of the general gaming populace has been impacted by this? Launch sales were very healthy indeed.
This is something that has surprised me in the past. A big furore in the gaming world about how awful a game is, we're all going to boycott etc etc, and meanwhile it's merrily selling millions of copies as most ppl don't reddit and have no clue. Well, it did have a massive sales drop on the UK (80%) and Japan (85%). And its not on the top selling games for 2020, anymore. Mario Kart and Ghost of Tsushima surpassed Last of Us 2 in sales, now.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 15, 2020 1:45:39 GMT
The position that the supposedly poor sales of Last of Us 2 have nothing whatsoever to do with bigotry is rather undercut by the fact that the people arguing it in this thread are the same people complaining that lady chunky, make man sad.
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Post by ClarkKent on Aug 15, 2020 8:30:03 GMT
I never see anyone in here complaining when *male* characters in post-apocalypse scenarios look like they swallowed a sack of footballs when they, by all rights, should more closely resemble Christian Bale in The Machinist. "Well maybe if they SHOWED Abby working out constantly and hogging all the chicken breast..." that's easy enough to infer, isn't it? What the fuck else is she meant to be doing with her free time? "You know, maybe I'll skip leg day and snuggle up with a pint of Chunky Monkey and binge Golden Girls on Netfli... oh right, SOCIETY FUCKING COLLAPSED." And they literally show a gym in the first few minutes of playing Abby lmao. Pretty much sums up the criticism of this game - it's the players not looking or thinking about anything, and then proceeding to get mad about it.
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Post by mugwump on Aug 15, 2020 11:33:56 GMT
Let's not go down the road of attributing unworthy motives to those who didn't appreciate Druckman's vision for the IP peeps.
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Post by Hier0phant on Aug 15, 2020 19:00:11 GMT
I never see anyone in here complaining when *male* characters in post-apocalypse scenarios look like they swallowed a sack of footballs when they, by all rights, should more closely resemble Christian Bale in The Machinist. "Well maybe if they SHOWED Abby working out constantly and hogging all the chicken breast..." that's easy enough to infer, isn't it? What the fuck else is she meant to be doing with her free time? "You know, maybe I'll skip leg day and snuggle up with a pint of Chunky Monkey and binge Golden Girls on Netfli... oh right, SOCIETY FUCKING COLLAPSED." And they literally show a gym in the first few minutes of playing Abby lmao. Pretty much sums up the criticism of this game - it's the players not looking or thinking about anything, and then proceeding to get mad about it. A gym is only a small part of the equation. To acquire Abby's gains you would need to consume hundreds of grams of protein, carbs, and a few thousand calories a day to maintain that physique. The amount of food Abby needs to consume on a daily basis in combination with the nutritional needs of the other WLF soldiers would be huge, but this isn't supported in game based on what was shown to the player. Then there's the issue of Druckmann using a crossfit athlete to model for Abby despite the sport being plagued with bans for restricted substances, or WLF potentially wasting needed resources to maintain a pristine gym.
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Post by ClarkKent on Aug 15, 2020 21:56:24 GMT
And they literally show a gym in the first few minutes of playing Abby lmao. Pretty much sums up the criticism of this game - it's the players not looking or thinking about anything, and then proceeding to get mad about it. A gym is only a small part of the equation. To acquire Abby's gains you would need to consume hundreds of grams of protein, carbs, and a few thousand calories a day to maintain that physique. The amount of food Abby needs to consume on a daily basis in combination with the nutritional needs of the other WLF soldiers would be huge, but this isn't supported in game based on what was shown to the player. Then there's the issue of Druckmann using a crossfit athlete to model for Abby despite the sport being plagued with bans for restricted substances, or WLF potentially wasting needed resources to maintain a pristine gym. Do you want cutscenes of her cramming down chicken breasts or what? Do you think these banned substances could not be found in the many abandoned houses, hospitals, and pharmacies across the land? Do you think Abby, a person who's dedicated her life to taking down an utter psychopath like Joel, would not take those substances to give herself an edge? I'm not sure food has ever been shown as being in any great scarcity in the Last of Us universe. Deer, and other animals, would move into abounded cites - and you get a lot of protein from Venison. I dare say, Members of the WLF could even have a better diet than the majority of Mountain Dew and Mcdonalds feasting gamers these days.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 16, 2020 0:42:42 GMT
And they literally show a gym in the first few minutes of playing Abby lmao. Pretty much sums up the criticism of this game - it's the players not looking or thinking about anything, and then proceeding to get mad about it. A gym is only a small part of the equation. To acquire Abby's gains you would need to consume hundreds of grams of protein, carbs, and a few thousand calories a day to maintain that physique. The amount of food Abby needs to consume on a daily basis in combination with the nutritional needs of the other WLF soldiers would be huge, but this isn't supported in game based on what was shown to the player. Then there's the issue of Druckmann using a crossfit athlete to model for Abby despite the sport being plagued with bans for restricted substances, or WLF potentially wasting needed resources to maintain a pristine gym. The kind of muscle mass that Joel, Tommy, Jessie and every other male character in the game possess as standard also requires a fairly strict diet and workout regimen in order to acheive and maintain in real life, even without an apocalypse. None of the characters have "average" builds, especially not for a society where food is supposedly scarce (which I don't believe anyone in the game says is the case). Why does Abby's physique need "in-game support"? Why do you even care? In the game about a slight teenage girl taking down mushroom zombies and surviving many things that ought to kill her outright, why do you need precious time and resources devoted to explaining how Abby got her muscles? Even if it's steroids, *who gives a shit*?
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