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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 7, 2020 8:40:44 GMT
I'd probably be that generous as well with him if he wasn't already a confirmed lying criminal and I don't know about you but none of my coworkers have used DMCA to false flag YouTube videos that spin negative on their products. Lol, and you believe "insider" YouTubers? When they show the DMCA strike, provide a link to the original video and I see for myself that according to copyright law that it didn't violate shit? Yeah, when I can see the process through from inception to completion. Yeah I'll believe it. Because at the end of the day? At least they've provided more than cucky drucky which is: I know I lied to you for the last three years but please believe me that when I say I'm doing this not to silence the critical outrage my tripe filled narrative landmine of a game is receiving but to defend my staff from death threats
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 7, 2020 8:40:48 GMT
No he is not. He wants constructive criticism, he's defending himself and his co-workers from death threats. Wouldn't you do the same if they were your co-workers? I'd ._. Are you sure we should be talking to about my coworkers? I'm with the largest private employer on the planet son that has office branches in 34 countries, I don't care who you work for, that's not the point of the argument.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 7, 2020 8:46:59 GMT
I'd ._. Are you sure we should be talking to about my coworkers? I'm with the largest private employer on the planet son that has office branches in 34 countries, I don't care who you work for, that's not the point of the argument. ...Why wasn't this with the post above? Did you just feel like doing two posts? Also in response, yeah the point was it didn't become the first private enterprise in history to levy private contractual operation capacity from the UN Security Council by hiring liars...outside of the legal department of course o.o I'd also leave response to this sort of stuff to them as well, I'm contractually obligated to make no direct press statements to this effect without prior written consent from the company at large. Because you know. ._. I follow the rules unlike him
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 7, 2020 8:56:10 GMT
I don't care who you work for, that's not the point of the argument. ...Why wasn't this with the post above? Did you just feel like doing two posts? Also in response, yeah the point was it didn't become the first private enterprise in history to levy private contractual operation capacity from the UN Security Council by hiring liars...outside of the legal department of course o.o I'd also leave response to this sort of stuff to them as well, I'm contractually obligated to make no direct press statements to this effect without prior written consent from the company at large. Because you know. ._. I follow the rules unlike him I fucked it. Lol, I'm not press... and I would defend my co-workers from death theats. You can't say that?🤨
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 7, 2020 9:03:02 GMT
...Why wasn't this with the post above? Did you just feel like doing two posts? Also in response, yeah the point was it didn't become the first private enterprise in history to levy private contractual operation capacity from the UN Security Council by hiring liars...outside of the legal department of course o.o I'd also leave response to this sort of stuff to them as well, I'm contractually obligated to make no direct press statements to this effect without prior written consent from the company at large. Because you know. ._. I follow the rules unlike him I fucked it. Lol, I'm not press... and I would defend my co-workers from death theats. You can't say that?🤨 Oh fair enough guy. We all make mistakes, that assorted nonsense you already know. And also yeah I'm also under about four to six NDAs a year from them as well. Stuff that deals with in everything from insurance information to military secrets is a bit more strict about disclosure to the public then say a privately owned tech company or what have you. Though video game publishers are going in that direction as well, NDAs are normal in the field as well, along with regulations for dealing with the press and public. o.o I mean on a personal level would I have opinions? Sure, beyond that? The company dictates response. More businesses should have that professionalism if you ask me.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 7, 2020 10:37:32 GMT
Drucky is using it as a shield to bash folks who don't like him "subverting expectations" No he is not. He wants constructive criticism, he's defending himself and his co-workers from death threats. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 7, 2020 11:46:27 GMT
From my perspective: - Abuse and/or death threats, and
- Shady practice from publishers
Are both unacceptable and neither should be justified because the other is taking place. Do people think the perception of the general gaming populace has been impacted by this? Launch sales were very healthy indeed. Do you think TLOUII's chances of nabbing GOTY are dented by this?
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Jul 7, 2020 12:24:41 GMT
Do people think the perception of the general gaming populace has been impacted by this? Launch sales were very healthy indeed.
This is something that has surprised me in the past. A big furore in the gaming world about how awful a game is, we're all going to boycott etc etc, and meanwhile it's merrily selling millions of copies as most ppl don't reddit and have no clue.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2020 12:38:32 GMT
Do you think TLOUII's chances of nabbing GOTY are dented by this? I don’t think it would have won even without all this. I think those awards are going to Cyberpunk 2077, which considering what they’ve shown and how it has advanced gaming (NPCs and the world for example) it deserves even if I end up not liking it.
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 7, 2020 13:02:03 GMT
Do you think TLOUII's chances of nabbing GOTY are dented by this? I don’t think it would have won even without all this. I think those awards are going to Cyberpunk 2077, which considering what they’ve shown and how it has advanced gaming (NPCs and the world for example) it deserves even if I end up not liking it. That's assuming that Cyberpunk is what people expect it to be. CDPR hasn't yet burnt me, so I'm less skeptical with them than with others. Still, could you imagine posting the above about a game from Ubisoft or an EA studio? Cyberpunk might be an incredible step forward, or it might just be a good game. I hope for the former, even though I won't be able to play it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2020 13:21:47 GMT
I don’t think it would have won even without all this. I think those awards are going to Cyberpunk 2077, which considering what they’ve shown and how it has advanced gaming (NPCs and the world for example) it deserves even if I end up not liking it. That's assuming that Cyberpunk is what people expect it to be. CDPR hasn't yet burnt me, so I'm less skeptical with them than with others. Still, could you imagine posting the above about a game from Ubisoft or an EA studio? Cyberpunk might be an incredible step forward, or it might just be a good game. I hope for the former, even though I won't be able to play it. Yes, I could imagine posting the above about a game from Ubisoft or an EA studio. With the latter, I have (we are on a forum about one of said studios after all ). As someone who hated the Witcher games, even I am amazed at what they've shown for this game when it comes to how it has advanced things for the genre and gaming as a whole. I think it will serve as a base point for future RPGs, from like I said the level of detail to the number of variances and so on. Similar to how Skyrim was (and still is) used as a base point since it came about a decade ago even if overall it was just a good game. Similar to how Bioware has been with games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 7, 2020 14:07:50 GMT
I would make the observation that whilst TLOUII is the best game I've played this year (following the Covid-related game delays of Half1).
There are plenty of GOTY contenders (In my anticipated book anyway) coming down the track that may well be better still.
Ghost of Tsushima Cyberpunk 2077 Assassins Creed Valhalla watch Dogs Legion
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Jul 7, 2020 14:11:34 GMT
This is something that has surprised me in the past. A big furore in the gaming world about how awful a game is, we're all going to boycott etc etc, and meanwhile it's merrily selling millions of copies as most ppl don't reddit and have no clue. True, but what part did the esteem in which people hold the first game influence sales? Yep, it'll certainly be interesting to see just how well Druckman's next masterpiece performs. Oh I have no doubt it was the major factor. I think I prefer going in blind these days, internet hype/disgust about a new release ruin the experience. I want to find out my own unbiased review first
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Post by mugwump on Jul 7, 2020 14:31:04 GMT
Aye, I inadvertently got myself spoiled on this one, which kind of sucked!
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 7, 2020 15:51:47 GMT
Baldur's Gate III looks to be shaping up pretty well I played and loved Baldur's Gate I and II at launch, 20 years ago, so BGIII will also be of interest to me when it eventually drops onto a next gen console.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 7, 2020 16:24:44 GMT
I would make the observation that whilst TLOUII is the best game I've played this year (following the Covid-related game delays of Half1). There are plenty of GOTY contenders (In my anticipated book anyway) coming down the track that may well be better still. Ghost of Tsushima Cyberpunk 2077 Assassins Creed Valhalla watch Dogs Legion Isn't Legion is 2021 game?
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Post by FireAndBlood on Jul 7, 2020 16:38:48 GMT
I would make the observation that whilst TLOUII is the best game I've played this year (following the Covid-related game delays of Half1). There are plenty of GOTY contenders (In my anticipated book anyway) coming down the track that may well be better still. Ghost of Tsushima Cyberpunk 2077 Assassins Creed Valhalla watch Dogs Legion Isn't Legion is 2021 game? We’ll find out on Sunday.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2020 18:09:33 GMT
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 7, 2020 20:14:55 GMT
Ha, that was pretty good. Still enjoyed the game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2020 20:19:25 GMT
Ha, that was pretty good. Still enjoyed the game. Yeah, they do a good job with movies and games where even if I disagree with their opinion it is still entertaining to watch.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 7, 2020 20:27:47 GMT
Yeah, they do a good job with movies and games where even if I disagree with their opinion it is still entertaining to watch. Very much. I preferred the narrator with the deeper voice for his pacing but even so.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 8, 2020 1:24:47 GMT
During my first watch of the Mel scene where Ellie went over and opened up her jacket to reveal the belly, I couldn't help but go back to another see I saw years prior.
I know I am supposed to find this scene a revelation, something disgusting that Ellie has done in the pursuit of her revenge and all that, you know making the unborn pay for the sins of the living and all that other kindergarten level reasoning the game throws in pursuit of its message but...I didn't it reminded me of that skit from a animated cartoon I watched a decade prior because I could at no level actually take the scene seriously. We are to believe that Ellie has come this far, twisted herself up this much in pursuit of revenge only to have her reel back from it? After all the people she's killed that go on screaming and begging, all those poor poor doggies that tried to rip her throat out, etc, etc.
I am supposed to seriously expect her to have a normalized reaction to something horrid and monstrous? I guess Ellie only has a soul when its convenient for the game narrative.
._. But I didn't instead my mind drifted back to a comedy scene because I couldn't take it seriously at all.
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 8, 2020 2:38:24 GMT
Played a bit more of my NG++ earlier. I saved just as Ellie exits the sewers and enters the park. She'll meet the Seraphites on her way to the hospital.
I've been observing a conversation about the game on another site (one I choose not to join due to poor, overbearing moderation). It's mostly been 2 guys who really like the game and one guy who thought the over the top violence ruined any chance of him liking it. (He says he'd rate it a 7.5 out of 10 for its technical polish.) A fourth guy admitted he could never like it because of hating Abby and actively resisting the game's efforts to humanize her.
Many points from all angles were similar to some I've read or expressed here. A couple of weeks ago I said I'd not be surprised if we had some, "Were We Too Hard on TLoU2" articles next year. I don't really expect we will, though. This game seems to be love it or leave it.
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Post by Kabraxal on Jul 8, 2020 4:22:23 GMT
I hate this game more now... it reminded me of Dexter’s final season. Fucking low blow man. Just fucking low blow........
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