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Post by Iakus on Aug 16, 2020 17:55:50 GMT
I had some more things I'd like to see. To recap. 1: Kaidan Bi from the start/in ME1 2: Taking a Biotic Bonus power triggers dialogue that has your character being referred to as a Biotic.
3: Class Based Interrupts throughout the trilogy so it's isn't just the Engineer in the Omega DLC that has one.
4: Reworked Thresher Maw fights. To add to this point, making them more like the Architects in MEA would be great, those fights are fun. As they are, Thresher Maw's are horrible to fight in ME1
Now for the new suggestions:
5: Add Jetpack Hover/Dash to Shepard like Ryder has in MEA
6: Add Class based melee attacks for Shepard as well as weapon-based ones. E.G Infiltrator has and Electric slash in ME3 (and in my idea 1 and 2 as well) but you can equip Shepard with a sword like the N7 Shadow or Ryder in MEA.
7: Add the Class Bonus powers in ME1, so Infiltrators get Tactical Cloak, Vanguards get Charge etc.
8: Add an in-game FOV slider.
9: Do away with Thermal Clips OR add MEA's Vintage Heat Sink as a weapon's Mod in ME2 and ME3
10: Fix broken flags such as the Conrad Verner issues that makes him think you put a gun in his face regardless and that one guy who always thinks Shepard is of the Lone Survivor background etc.
11: Add back in cut content into all 3 games, such as the cut Citadel Radio Announcements and the Ken&Gabby recruitment in ME3, And the cut Shepard and Anderson dialogue at the end of ME3. I have those because I play on PC, but these things are awesome and should be available for all players.
12: Make Biotics work more like MEA. They were OP in ME1 (I liked it ) but Bioware nerfed them too much in 2 and espeically 3 where Shepard never got all the amazing MP powers to counteract that. MEA's Biotic are perfectly balaced between being Fun and Balanced IMO.
13: GIVE SHEPARD THE SHADOW STRIKE POWER PLEASE!!! (I used a mod that gave Ryder the Avenger Strike in MEA and OMG it's so FUN!)
1 Don't care. Or rather, only are int hat it would be one more character ninjamancing me 2 Nice, but not necessary. 3 Nice to have, but would probably require a lot of work 4 That's what the Mako is for. 5 If it doesn't restrict us t o three active powers, sure. But again, will take a lot of work since the trilogy wasn't made with jumping in mind. 6 Sure 7 Okay 8 Yeah 9 Heat sinks are awesome 10 Definitely 11 Yes 12 Never played with biotics much so I'll take your word for it. 13 Okay... But most importantly 14 Make the ending not such a radioactive dumpster fire.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Aug 16, 2020 18:49:52 GMT
Biotics nerfed in ME3??? Um... what?! They got nerfed in ME2 indeed and I hated that. Too much focus on shooting in general. But in ME3 biotics were super fun again. Don't have to use a gun at all if I don't want to. A biotic partner made the game easy as pie. I'm one of those people who prefer ME3's combat to MEA. And HELL NO to the jetpack!
I don't want any gameplay changes made to a remaster actually. I just want controller support for ME1 and sharper textures. And I'm only going to buy if every single DLC is included. If not I'll keep my Xbox. The expensive DLC are the reason I haven't replayed on PC yet even though ME2 was free and I bought ME3 again for the MP.
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Post by ergates on Aug 16, 2020 19:09:46 GMT
All I'd want to see is some of the cut content from the original games restored, higher resolution textures in Mass Effect 1, and more of the Citadel to explore in ME:2.
It always really bugged me how you could look out at the Presidium from Anderson's window but not actually explore the place.
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Post by ahglock on Aug 16, 2020 22:01:35 GMT
Biotics nerfed in ME3??? Um... what?! They got nerfed in ME2 indeed and I hated that. Too much focus on shooting in general. But in ME3 biotics were super fun again. Don't have to use a gun at all if I don't want to. A biotic partner made the game easy as pie. I'm one of those people who prefer ME3's combat to MEA. And HELL NO to the jetpack! I don't want any gameplay changes made to a remaster actually. I just want controller support for ME1 and sharper textures. And I'm only going to buy if every single DLC is included. If not I'll keep my Xbox. The expensive DLC are the reason I haven't replayed on PC yet even though ME2 was free and I bought ME3 again for the MP. Singularity was nerfed in ME3, it didn't stagger at all. it was fine in MP though.
MEA biotics were kind of nerfed due to the new calculations for biotic explosions.
I actually liked ME2 biotics balance wise. The powers were mostly effective, the cool downs were an appropriate time. And they were just more interesting when it was warp that triggered a biotic explosion instead of everything. Use throw to launch people into orbit, warp to explode.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 17, 2020 3:04:07 GMT
I had some more things I'd like to see. To recap. 1: Kaidan Bi from the start/in ME1
4: Reworked Thresher Maw fights. To add to this point, making them more like the Architects in MEA would be great, those fights are fun. As they are, Thresher Maw's are horrible to fight in ME1
Now for the new suggestions:
7: Add the Class Bonus powers in ME1, so Infiltrators get Tactical Cloak, Vanguards get Charge etc.
9: Do away with Thermal Clips OR add MEA's Vintage Heat Sink as a weapon's Mod in ME2 and ME3
10: Fix broken flags such as the Conrad Verner issues that makes him think you put a gun in his face regardless and that one guy who always thinks Shepard is of the Lone Survivor background etc.
11: Add back in cut content into all 3 games, such as the cut Citadel Radio Announcements and the Ken&Gabby recruitment in ME3, And the cut Shepard and Anderson dialogue at the end of ME3. I have those because I play on PC, but these things are awesome and should be available for all players. 1. Absolute must for me. (Always headcanoned both as bi since I see all options legit.) 4. Didn't mind them. Thresher Maw fights aren't the hard once you get the hang of it. 7. Technically don't mind but then we're talking more remake than remaster.
9. Prefer heat sink for greater challenge. 10. For sure. You can mod that if you're on PC but it shouldn't be necessary. 11. Obviously they should restore cut content. There's no reason not to.
Yeah I think if yo ucan avoid gettin gblindsided b ythem yea hthe Thresher maw fights aren'ttoo bad and tbh I prefered the Thresher ma wfights to fights withthe Architects though I d oenjoy fighting both. In fact just taken down the Eos architect again a few minutes ago . So it's fresh in my memory
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Post by burningcherry on Aug 17, 2020 12:16:30 GMT
And they were just more interesting when it was warp that triggered a biotic explosion instead of everything. Mind if I say the opposite? The abundance of combos is the greatest gameplay invention in ME3 and triggering them with other powers than just one makes more sense.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 17, 2020 12:47:17 GMT
Add Jetpack Hover/Dash to Shepard like Ryder has in MEA It would have been nice to have the jetpack in ME3. I liked it for evading. Unfortunately the only time it's seen is when Cerberus soldiers are going up or down. I like the heat sinks. I prefer them over the thermal clips. .5 If it doesn't restrict us t o three active powers, sure. But again, will take a lot of work since the trilogy wasn't made with jumping in mind. It wouldn't be hard to have the jetpack in ME3. Just use it for evading attacks from the enemy. No need for Shepard to jump all over the place. Just have Hackett's ending. I would add another ending. The space hamster ending. Both remove the shoot this, pull that and jump in there endings. But in ME3 biotics were super fun again. Don't have to use a gun at all if I don't want to. Yep. I've completed a trilogy run only using biotic powers. Of course there's a couple of times Shepard has to use a weapon because the plot demanded a weapon. I found having Williams and Vega made the game very easy. Both take out the dirtbags with ease while my Shepard mops up the rest with her/his biotics. Agreed.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 17, 2020 13:26:08 GMT
All these checklists just make me think the longer we don't have the original games touched the better. So many of those things are subjective and for some might improve the game and at the same time ruin the games for others. If I had some level of faith that people would just accept whatever is released especially if there is nothing really done to the games I might be more enthusiastic for some kind of remaster for those that might not have experienced the game, but I fully expect a complete cry fest about how BioWare betrayed the franchise by doing or not doing something and endless think pieces about it.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 17, 2020 13:48:29 GMT
but I fully expect a complete cry fest about how BioWare betrayed the franchise by doing or not doing something and endless think pieces about it. And I fully expect you will continue your whine fest about people complaining about this, that and the other thing.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 17, 2020 14:27:27 GMT
All these checklists just make me think the longer we don't have the original games touched the better. So many of those things are subjective and for some might improve the game and at the same time ruin the games for others. If I had some level of faith that people would just accept whatever is released especially if there is nothing really done to the games I might be more enthusiastic for some kind of remaster for those that might not have experienced the game, but I fully expect a complete cry fest about how BioWare betrayed the franchise by doing or not doing something and endless think pieces about it. Yeah it's one of the other main reasons why I don' tthink Bioware or EA aer going t obother with a remaster yet. Peoiple aer just moanin gabou tthings they dislik eabout a game instead of enjoying i tfo rwhat it is.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 17, 2020 15:11:00 GMT
but I fully expect a complete cry fest about how BioWare betrayed the franchise by doing or not doing something and endless think pieces about it. And I fully expect you will continue your whine fest about people complaining about this, that and the other thing. Cool, just like I expect you to do the same. I was pointing out what I am going to see from the online community and past experience that is what we have seen. Ranging from SJW pandering to how this one feature is going to "save" the franchise and then as BioWare does it another group of people make the proclamations it "broke" the franchise.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 17, 2020 15:26:33 GMT
Cool, just like I expect you to do the same. Yes I complain about stuff, but it's mostly about stuff in the games. How many times have you seen a post from me complaining about people who complain about stuff?
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Post by Iakus on Aug 17, 2020 16:06:56 GMT
All these checklists just make me think the longer we don't have the original games touched the better. So many of those things are subjective and for some might improve the game and at the same time ruin the games for others. If I had some level of faith that people would just accept whatever is released especially if there is nothing really done to the games I might be more enthusiastic for some kind of remaster for those that might not have experienced the game, but I fully expect a complete cry fest about how BioWare betrayed the franchise by doing or not doing something and endless think pieces about it. Well the trilogy ended up such a dumpster fire that Bioware hasn't recovered eight years later. If they don't make changes to address that, they're better off not doing a remaster at all. SO I guess we agree on that much
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 17, 2020 16:12:35 GMT
And I fully expect you will continue your whine fest about people complaining about this, that and the other thing. Cool, just like I expect you to do the same. I was pointing out what I am going to see from the online community and past experience that is what we have seen. Ranging from SJW pandering to how this one feature is going to "save" the franchise and then as BioWare does it another group of people make the proclamations it "broke" the franchise. There is some of that SJW stuff, but more in Andromeda. And it's light. Even with the transgender person in MEA it had close to zero impact on the story. It was just a chat. Wait, one more thing. The changing of how asari are identified in MEA. I thought it was stupid because it came off as human-centric and there was zero evidence for it prior to MEA and actually a contradiction. It did put me off but we never saw anything about it outside of that one thing on the Nexus.
As for the other, of I hadn't discovered BroShep could romance Kaidan I'd have never found Mass Effect. I'm sure you know I've spent a lot of time posting here and playing the game. I've made myself a part of the community and not run off over hurt feelings. Also, BroShep and Kaidan didn't even have to romance. Assuming BroShep is who you were playing, if you can't handle nominally being hit on at Apollo's you probably have a hard time in life. (Not personal "you" but in the general sense.) How many complaints were there about FemShep and Liara? Zero? Probably. Kelly? Samara is barely a romance but it's an option. Trayner? Diana Allers? Not buying into that being pandering, especially since plenty of straight guys are more than happy to see F/F romances.
Beyond that, what kind of pandering have we seen?
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 17, 2020 18:11:09 GMT
I actually liked ME2 biotics balance wise. The powers were mostly effective, the cool downs were an appropriate time. And they were just more interesting when it was warp that triggered a biotic explosion instead of everything. Use throw to launch people into orbit, warp to explode. Wait.... you liked having to strip enemy shields with guns before biotics did anything useful?
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 18, 2020 1:00:18 GMT
14 Make the ending not such a radioactive dumpster fire. I happen to agree but it would be hard. In the end, we'd still need options. I'd prefer cutting Starbrat out entirely but assume that's not possible. Could take it down a notch and not make it the Ultimate AI Controller. Let's take Synthesis. Imagine something developed that would allow man and machine to find more balance. It's not forced on the galaxy but there's no doubt a lot of people would choose to be "green pilled". After all, wasn't there an entire VR race of people who were organics that placed their minds in VR? This is exceptionally plausible and doesn't alter the entire galaxy. In this version, assume Shepard thinks this is a viable prospect and is the first to go green. Control would take some work. Can't have Shepard become and AI or a Reaper. Maybe the Reapers get chipped or have the Three Laws of Robotics instilled in them. There's still some kind of control going on but Shep isn't some creepy Reaper. Destroy is similar. A virus that attacks Reaper tech. Couldn't be instant by any means but could be disseminated. This would have the bonus of leaving the Citadel and relays intact but also used to make the Reapers themselves be inert. We'd still have a way to go before the Reapers are gone but it does have some basis for a future game. Refusal. Shep decides all galactic races need to commit suicide. Who wants that? These are just thoughts on reworking the endings. Won't change much about the game at all but might help stop the complaints about the endings. It would leave the "RGB" concept intact. It would also make it easier to have sequels because none of these options definitely change the galaxy, at least not immediately. Shepard could not be used but that's probably for the best anyway.
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Post by TheAntiSocialFatMan on Aug 18, 2020 4:08:52 GMT
I'd also like to see some weapons (even if only their models) got added into ME1R so that its' not just the Katana/Scimitar, Viper/Mantis models etc. A Geth Shotgun and Sniper rifle exist in ME1 you just can't use them. Make them useable and make the Sniper the Javelin and the Shotgun the Geth Plasma Shotgun. For lore reasons not every gun in ME2 and 3 would fit into ME1, e.g Reegar Carbine. But I doubt realistically the entire galaxy was using 2 models of gun for each weapon category.
Similarly add some of the ME3 weapons into ME2R.
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Post by burningcherry on Aug 18, 2020 11:00:22 GMT
Beyond that, what kind of pandering have we seen?
caricatural portrayal of religion mostly
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 18, 2020 11:51:03 GMT
I don't see how there's anything a "remaster" could do to the trilogy, to change it into something that I'd like more. I don't see the point and I'm more wary of what form this remaster will come in and at what cost to consumers. I find it more likely that it will show me a whole lot of things I don't want to see. Therefore, I would like to see it not be made.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 18, 2020 13:04:57 GMT
14 Make the ending not such a radioactive dumpster fire. I happen to agree but it would be hard. In the end, we'd still need options. I'd prefer cutting Starbrat out entirely but assume that's not possible. Could take it down a notch and not make it the Ultimate AI Controller. Let's take Synthesis. Imagine something developed that would allow man and machine to find more balance. It's not forced on the galaxy but there's no doubt a lot of people would choose to be "green pilled". After all, wasn't there an entire VR race of people who were organics that placed their minds in VR? This is exceptionally plausible and doesn't alter the entire galaxy. In this version, assume Shepard thinks this is a viable prospect and is the first to go green. Control would take some work. Can't have Shepard become and AI or a Reaper. Maybe the Reapers get chipped or have the Three Laws of Robotics instilled in them. There's still some kind of control going on but Shep isn't some creepy Reaper. Destroy is similar. A virus that attacks Reaper tech. Couldn't be instant by any means but could be disseminated. This would have the bonus of leaving the Citadel and relays intact but also used to make the Reapers themselves be inert. We'd still have a way to go before the Reapers are gone but it does have some basis for a future game. Refusal. Shep decides all galactic races need to commit suicide. Who wants that? These are just thoughts on reworking the endings. Won't change much about the game at all but might help stop the complaints about the endings. It would leave the "RGB" concept intact. It would also make it easier to have sequels because none of these options definitely change the galaxy, at least not immediately. Shepard could not be used but that's probably for the best anyway. Yeah, it would be hard. And unlikely. Which is why, assuming this remaster thing even happens, I probably won't buy.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 18, 2020 13:06:03 GMT
Beyond that, what kind of pandering have we seen?
caricatural portrayal of religion mostly Who doesn't want to watch Space Jesus die for the galaxy's sins?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 18, 2020 13:26:32 GMT
Who doesn't want to watch Space Jesus die for the galaxy's sins? I love it when a writer beats me over the head with a hammer, to drive a point. That sweet subtlety of a wild bull let loose in a china shop. How could I possibly pick up on those clues, otherwise? I am dumb, after all, according to Mac. Thanks, Iakus, that's the kind of pain I like to experience on a Tuesday noon.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 18, 2020 13:28:44 GMT
Who doesn't want to watch Space Jesus die for the galaxy's sins? I love it when a writer beats me over the head with a hammer, to drive a point. That sweet subtlety of a wild bull let loose in a china shop. How could I possibly pick up on those clues, otherwise? I am dumb, after all, according to Mac. Thanks, Iakus , that's the kind of pain I like to experience on a Tuesday noon. You just don't appreciate the "art" is all
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Post by cribbian on Aug 18, 2020 13:56:59 GMT
A replacement for the lazy Tali photoshop would be nice
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Post by themikefest on Aug 18, 2020 15:11:27 GMT
I would like to see it not be made. I would rather have a remaster and not a sequel to MEA with Ryder returning.
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