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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 28, 2020 9:12:56 GMT
The one kneeling has a face, or at least you can see the bottom of it. Did the Executor in the book have a face? For some reason I didn't think they did. You are correct, PW left it deliberately mysterious in the book, you couldn't even tell if they were male or female by their voice. However, that doesn't mean we might not see more in the game. I suppose it depends on whether we get one as a companion or not. I think I'd want to see a bit more than a veiled face if I was going to trust them but of course it is likely we really wouldn't like what is underneath it. And since they're recording, it means that dialogues are are already written, which would imply that the game is in much later stage of production that "early". Hmm... If they have nailed down the story and written much of the dialogue, then it would make sense to get the VAs in asap, particularly as they may not have much live work on their schedule at the moment. The middle part of development is getting everything programmed into the game so it works and rejigging the stuff that doesn't. Then late development is actually testing it and (hopefully) ironing out any bugs before they ship it. I view it a positive that they have moved beyond pre-production, which is the planning and writing stage. I wonder who this is...? Someone very, very tall. Where did you find the first picture, I don't recall it in the video on the first page? EDIT: I've found him now. Anyway I'm guessing it is the Black Divine. May be he has been chugging red lyrium to enhance his growth. A lot of these locations look fantastic. One in particular with those floating roofed platforms caught my eye, ancient elves? I'm guessing that this is either later in the game and the Veil has at least been partially breached, hence all the floating objects, or it is some magic of the ancient elves that have been reawakened by Solas. It does mean that it is possible there will be flying of some sort in the game, may be flying mounts or the very least our own floating platform for a time.
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Post by Serza on Aug 28, 2020 9:17:57 GMT
They lost me the moment I realized my PC ain't gonna be able to run this anyway. Time to byu a new one then
Yeah, right after I get a place of my own to live, right?
Trust me, I tried bringing up the idea of being able to play even the games I have RIGHT NOW smoothly since that's pretty much the only hobby I've left. Conversation went somewhere along the lines of "You're stupid to consider that, this is your future." I'm not sure I fancy a future of having nothing but lunch to look forward to during a day when this ol' grandfather eventually breaks down.
Oh well! Maybe in a couple years, right?
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Post by Rascoth on Aug 28, 2020 9:21:51 GMT
I wonder who this is...? Someone very, very tall. Where did you find the first picture, I don't recall it in the video on the first page? Anyway I'm guessing it is the Black Divine. May be he has been chugging red lyrium to enhance his growth. 2:10 in the video.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 28, 2020 9:22:12 GMT
I understand that it’s been 6 years, but the project was scrapped and rebooted by EA. The new, current project, and we don’t know how much it took from The previous one, hasn’t been working on for 6 years. The public doesn't care. I don’t see a problem in showing what they did yesterday, although I can understand your view Fuck my view. Look beyond the dedicated fanbases. This inspired no confidence at all, anywhere. A time frame of 2 and half It's going to take 36 months to reach Anthem launch status. You don't want to release at Anthem launch status.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 28, 2020 9:28:48 GMT
1:59 has gotta be an ancient elven city right? 2:27, my hubby pointed out the dragon wing against the stars. 3:18 they modified their deflector shield. I think at 3:27, the PC is underwater and that is sea aneomes attacking. 1.59: It may be an elven city hidden somewhere in the mountains or it could be just some other early concept art for Minrathous or another Tevinter city. 2.27: You are right about the dragon wing but that makes sense because of the inferno the knight is protecting the girl from. 3.18: About the shield, I'm guessing you mean how it appears to light up when it is deflecting. That would be a cool visual effect, even though you are likely to miss it in the heat of battle. 3.27: Actually that looks like there is red lyrium underneath the tentacles, so I’m guessing probably a brood-mother, although I suppose there is no real reason why it shouldn’t be an underwater brood-mother. From the various red lyrium shots we have been given now, I'm guessing we are going to discover the heart of the Blight this game and it looks as though that will take us via the ruins of an ancient elven city. (Well that figures).
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 28, 2020 9:33:07 GMT
I understand that it’s been 6 years, but the project was scrapped and rebooted by EA. The new, current project, and we don’t know how much it took from The previous one, hasn’t been working on for 6 years. The public doesn't care. I don’t see a problem in showing what they did yesterday, although I can understand your view Fuck my view. Look beyond the dedicated fanbases. This inspired no confidence at all, anywhere. A time frame of 2 and half It's going to take 36 months to reach Anthem launch status. You don't want to release at Anthem launch status. The fact that the public doesn’t care, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t matter. I do agree that not showing something substantial for 6 years is going to have a negative effect on people, but it’s not their fault that EA scrapped the project. Should they do what they did with Anthem, and reveal a trailer made up just for the occasion? I didn’t mean to imply that the reaction to the footage was positive. Given how long it’s been since Trespasser, I wouldn’t expect a mostly positive reaction from a dev diary like this. Still, if they didn’t show anything, people would complain about them not showing anything as well. Anthem was shown the first time at E3 2017, June of that year. It was released at the end of February 2019, so it was ‘finished’ in January of that year. That’s 20 months of development between that timeframe, and we do know that they basically had nothing truly made for Anthem in June 2017, other then that made-up trailer. I don’t see how in 36 months DA4 will be in the same state of launch anthem, given that there are 16 more months of development...and that’s assuming that DA4 right now is in the same state of Anthem in June 2017, which I don’t think it’s true.
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Post by phoray on Aug 28, 2020 9:41:33 GMT
3.27: Actually that looks like there is red lyrium underneath the tentacles, so I’m guessing probably a brood-mother, although I suppose there is no real reason why it shouldn’t be an underwater brood-mother It wasn't so much the tentacles but the movement of the object it's interacting with. With normal gravity, the tentacles are either helping someone body surf it's crowd, as it were, or bouyancy is having an effect on the object. Obviously could be wrong, but ya.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 28, 2020 9:44:05 GMT
The fact that the public doesn’t care, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t matter. I do agree that not showing something substantial for 6 years is going to have a negative effect on people, but it’s not their fault that EA scrapped the project. Again, this is an excuse and the public doesn't care. Should they do what they did with Anthem, and reveal a trailer made up just for the occasion? No. They should come back in 2022, when they have something. It may be hard, after 6 years of silence already, but this is just mockery. I didn’t mean to imply that the reaction to the footage was positive. Given how long it’s been since Trespasser, I wouldn’t expect a mostly positive reaction from a dev diary like this. Still, if they didn’t show anything, people would complain about them not showing anything as well. People would ask "where is Bioware"? And they'd be right. And there would be good reason for why Bioware isn't there. They're working. Anthem was shown the first time at E3 2017, June of that year. It was released at the end of February 2019, so it was ‘finished’ in January of that year. That’s 20 months of development between that timeframe, and we do know that they basically had nothing truly made for Anthem in June 2017, other then that made-up trailer. I don’t see how in 36 months DA4 will be in the same state of launch anthem, given that there are 16 more months of development...and that’s assuming that DA4 right now is in the same state of Anthem in June 2017, which I don’t think it’s true. It took 20 months to make barely a game, with half the studio quitting, or on leave, due to massive crunch. That's how you get something as barebones, broken and vapid as Anthem. Now, remove the crunch and add Covid. It's going to take you 36 months to reach Anthem launch status. At best. DA4 may be the only Bioware game we get this gen.
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Post by mattjamho on Aug 28, 2020 9:53:27 GMT
I lightened this image up ...could the lady with the bow be a dwarf? It's hard to tell, she might just be a human, but the human guy to her right is kneeling on the ground while she is just bending her knees and they're at the same level. Also...hes definitely wearing Inquistion armor...could this be the inquisitor? Could that left hand be a solid prosthetic? If i were to guess at those three characters, I'd say its Calperina, Harding, and the Inquisitor...maybe infiltrating somewhere in the imperium for a powerful relic or something!
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Post by phoray on Aug 28, 2020 9:55:53 GMT
Hanako Ikezawa I recognize and empathize with your disappointment over the potential near entire loss of an Inky/Solas resolution that satisfies long term fans. I am simulataneously disappointed about the things that could have been, the characters and storylines I thought I would get to explore, and excited about the characters I never considered. Optimistic but not excited about the storylines. I'm a warden hoe, so that was a big reveal for me, whereas I could care less about the evanuris and even less about the titans. Always knew this was going to be one of the directions the story went, but still kinda like MEH. Gotta tie off Solas, but otherwise the evanuris could hang. But what keeps me optimistic is that I may not care at all now, but once I encounter these villains, the world they're in, I may care A LOT. My character may care SO MUCH. But we're not to that point yet. You are on a fan forum, so the outlook is going to be faily positive, so please don't feel unheard. I think a lot of solas mancers are feeling unheard right now, as well as the people who felt strongly, like you and I, that our Inky needed to be the ones to sink the blade into Solas.
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Post by cribbian on Aug 28, 2020 10:00:54 GMT
I lightened this image up ...could the lady with the bow be a dwarf? It's hard to tell, she might just be a human, but the human guy to her right is kneeling on the ground while she is just bending her knees and they're at the same level. Also...hes definitely wearing Inquistion armor...could this be the inquisitor? Could that left hand be a solid prosthetic? If i were to guess at those three characters, I'd say its Calperina, Harding, and the Inquisitor...maybe infiltrating somewhere in the imperium for a powerful relic or something! Looks like Harding to me
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 28, 2020 10:02:42 GMT
The fact that the public doesn’t care, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t matter. I do agree that not showing something substantial for 6 years is going to have a negative effect on people, but it’s not their fault that EA scrapped the project. Again, this is an excuse and the public doesn't care. Should they do what they did with Anthem, and reveal a trailer made up just for the occasion? No. They should come back in 2022, when they have something. It may be hard, after 6 years of silence already, but this is just mockery. I didn’t mean to imply that the reaction to the footage was positive. Given how long it’s been since Trespasser, I wouldn’t expect a mostly positive reaction from a dev diary like this. Still, if they didn’t show anything, people would complain about them not showing anything as well. People would ask "where is Bioware"? And they'd be right. And there would be good reason for why Bioware isn't there. They're working. Anthem was shown the first time at E3 2017, June of that year. It was released at the end of February 2019, so it was ‘finished’ in January of that year. That’s 20 months of development between that timeframe, and we do know that they basically had nothing truly made for Anthem in June 2017, other then that made-up trailer. I don’t see how in 36 months DA4 will be in the same state of launch anthem, given that there are 16 more months of development...and that’s assuming that DA4 right now is in the same state of Anthem in June 2017, which I don’t think it’s true. It took 20 months to make barely a game, with half the studio quitting, or on leave, due to massive crunch. That's how you get something as barebones, broken and vapid as Anthem. Now, remove the crunch and add Covid. It's going to take you 36 months to reach Anthem launch status. At best. DA4 may be the only Bioware game we get this gen. The public certainly won’t care, but it’s not an excuse, expecially in regards of something that’s out of their control (EA scrapping the project). I can see why people would react negatively to this footage, but I don’t see how this is mockery. We do know that the project is years away. It doesn’t mean they can’t show off concept arts. If we add COVID and remove crunch, the situation will be around the same, so I don’t see how it’ll take 16 more months to reach the same level as Anthem. Again, though, you’re assuming that the project is right now as the same level as Anthem in 2017, which there’s no proof it is.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 28, 2020 10:12:59 GMT
I think a lot of solas mancers are feeling unheard right now, as well as the people who felt strongly, like you and I, that our Inky needed to be the ones to sink the blade into Solas. This could still happen. We know the Inquisitor is involved in the hunt for him, both from the epilogue to Trespasser and Tevinter Nights, it is just that they need to stay in the shadows at least initially so Solas doesn't connect them with the new PC. A romanced Solas is still haunting their dreams and the story in Tevinter Nights illustrated how he was able to infiltrate a meeting by a known associate of the Inquisitor, so it does make sense that we have a new PC at first but don't automatically assume that means the ex-Inquisitor won't have a meaningful part to play at some point. I've argued as strongly as anyone that they should be involved in some significant way and that losing an arm shouldn't be an impediment to this. I'm just enthused by the places it looks as though we will be visiting. There is definitely going to be a Warden companion by the sound of it and concept art seemed to show Weisshaupt. We've heard so much about this place in previous games and now we are actually going to see it. May be also get some closure on that DAI Warden plot. The dwarven statue in the mountains and shots of dwarven architecture shout Kal-Sharok to me, so another mystery may finally be solved, what lay behind their survival all these years. Plus the concept art of Minrathous looks incredible, so if they do come through on this, that's another iconic location we finally get to visit. I don't really care if I visit it as the HoF's or Hawke's mabari, just so long as I do.
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Aug 28, 2020 10:16:06 GMT
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrahThe better to open doors with. I'm not even creeped out by spiders but that comment took it to a new level I don't even dare to hope it's Zevran. I'm hoping. I lurve him so much and kinda want to know what my Warden is up to. People who romanced Lel in DAI got a tidbit. If they aren't the PC, do us a favor Bioware and don't have them in the game at all. You've ruined them enough. If I got to choose the dialogue, I think I'd be satisfied. Should be like, a toggle on off at the start of the game option. That way people who have no clue who Inky is can just let Bioware choose the options. and it’s that this Qunari lady has curves like a racetrack. I noticed that all the women were more stereotypically attractive, actually. I guess that should make the people that said the women of Inquisition were ugly happy.
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Post by vertigomez on Aug 28, 2020 10:26:45 GMT
I think the only takeaway in terms of companions here is that there'll be a female qunari companion and maybe a skelly lad companion. Bubble-headed Skelly is going to be my favorite character. I'm calling it now. SKELEFRIEND AAAHHHHH 😍 Ooh, great find! Maybe Davrin will be the dwarf Warden that Blackwall originally seemed to be (from early DAI concept art)?
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Post by Fredward on Aug 28, 2020 10:47:29 GMT
The floating ships look like aravels and isn't that myth? Flying aravels used for travel? So that could mean it's Solas' faction, great advertising for joining his death cult. Reclaim the glory of the ancients on a flying chariot! Join Santa's Solas' elves today!
Might also be that the Veil breaking happens early and inevitably. Does raise the question of who the big bad would be then though. Cuz if it's Solas vs qunari invasion I'm more worried about Solas.
Otoh if they do make magic inevitable and the protagonist is always to some degree a mage then they could do fun stuff with Anthem's traversal mechanics and would mean blended classes.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 28, 2020 11:05:19 GMT
Who is dis Nasir-looking from Spartacus guy and when can I marry him? Make him bi so we can share (aka. I want him too)
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 28, 2020 11:15:21 GMT
Time to byu a new one then
Yeah, right after I get a place of my own to live, right?
Trust me, I tried bringing up the idea of being able to play even the games I have RIGHT NOW smoothly since that's pretty much the only hobby I've left. Conversation went somewhere along the lines of "You're stupid to consider that, this is your future." I'm not sure I fancy a future of having nothing but lunch to look forward to during a day when this ol' grandfather eventually breaks down.
Oh well! Maybe in a couple years, right?
Wel lwe won't b eseeing the game for anothe rcouple of years so you have time.
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Post by wright1978 on Aug 28, 2020 11:18:47 GMT
The fact that they have nothing to show it an assumption, though. Not showing something at this moment doesn’t mean that they don’t have something to show. So after 6 years of having nothing to show, they showed you nothing again, so that means they have something to show, but didn't. If that is true, you need to fire whoever made that decision. That was actively damaging. They had less to show for, than the 2015 bts Andromeda video. If they do have something, they need to fix that, yesterday. If they don't, they need to stay quiet and come back in 2 years, when they will. Can’t say I agree. At this point providing some scraps of info for existing fans to speculate on seems a perfectly rational approach, given how far we are likely off a release.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 28, 2020 12:06:25 GMT
The floating ships look like aravels and isn't that myth? Flying aravels used for travel? Well the odd thing is that Issaya in Last Flight got her idea for floating ships, levitated by magic and pulled by griffons, from Dalish aravels. That struck me as odd as I've never thought of the aravels as actually flying through the air even though they are called land ships, so the sails are more than just decorative. However, if the Dalish based their design off wall art they had seen, then it is possible that originally they could fly before the Veil and Solas and his ancient elf cronies would know how to do this.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 28, 2020 12:06:35 GMT
The public certainly won’t care, but it’s not an excuse It is an excuse. It's been 6 years. Nobody cares how many times you rebooted a project. If you need to reboot it every three years, cancel it and move on. Right now, DA4 is confirmed to be in development hell. expecially in regards of something that’s out of their control (EA scrapping the project) Nobody cares about how many times you scrapped the project. At best, this confirms more development problems internally, at Bioware, which is even more worrying. I can see why people would react negatively to this footage, And I bet Bioware, internally, knew that, too. Which makes even less sense why they went and did it. They didn't need to show up at Gamescom at all. In fact, they shouldn't have. but I don’t see how this is mockery After six years, they gave you Hero shots. I'm sure everyone was impressed. We do know that the project is years away. It doesn’t mean they can’t show off concept arts. Again, they showed you hero shots. I wouldn't be feeling like much of a hero, if all I had to show for myself, was concept arts, after 6 years. By all means, show it, but don't give me this kind of presentation, for table scraps. It just shows how much out of touch Bioware still is with their audience. If we add COVID and remove crunch, the situation will be around the same I'll probably still be alive in 2024, to say I told you so. And I'm going to say again, the game that Bioware will have ready in 2022, you don't want it. Worst of all, EA won't want it. Again, though, you’re assuming that the project is right now as the same level as Anthem in 2017, which there’s no proof it is. There is no proof the project is on any level, other than conceptual. Which is why they showed conceptual prototypes only and concept art. The implication that you are making is that the game is more along development than they are letting you in on. There's not even a pre-alpha gameplay prototype. The game simply is not.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 28, 2020 12:23:12 GMT
The Executor is described as covered in a dark robes (and if I remember correctly, it was a reddish shade) with a mesh covering the opening of the hood. Is Vyrantium samite reddish in hue? That is what the robes seemed to be made of. The figure was hooded with the face covered by a veil of thin mesh. Those guys in the picture seem to be wearing actual masks but that could be what the mesh was concealing in Tevinter Nights. I imagined the Executor looked more creepy than these guys and the featureless black under the hood made me think of the ring wraiths
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Post by DarkSnow on Aug 28, 2020 12:26:27 GMT
I'm not even creeped out by spiders but that comment took it to a new level I'm hoping. I lurve him so much and kinda want to know what my Warden is up to. People who romanced Lel in DAI got a tidbit. If I got to choose the dialogue, I think I'd be satisfied. Should be like, a toggle on off at the start of the game option. That way people who have no clue who Inky is can just let Bioware choose the options. I noticed that all the women were more stereotypically attractive, actually. I guess that should make the people that said the women of Inquisition were ugly happy. Depends. They still have plenty of time to annouce that the only romance for a straight male is the skeleton companion.
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Post by linksocarina on Aug 28, 2020 12:28:00 GMT
The public certainly won’t care, but it’s not an excuse It is an excuse. It's been 6 years. Nobody cares how many times you rebooted a project. If you need to reboot it every three years, cancel it and move on. Right now, DA4 is confirmed to be in development hell. expecially in regards of something that’s out of their control (EA scrapping the project) Nobody cares about how many times you scrapped the project. At best, this confirms more development problems internally, at Bioware, which is even more worrying. I can see why people would react negatively to this footage, And I bet Bioware, internally, knew that, too. Which makes even less sense why they went and did it. They didn't need to show up at Gamescom at all. In fact, they shouldn't have. but I don’t see how this is mockery After six years, they gave you Hero shots. I'm sure everyone was impressed. We do know that the project is years away. It doesn’t mean they can’t show off concept arts. Again, they showed you hero shots. I wouldn't be feeling like much of a hero, if all I had to show for myself, was concept arts, after 6 years. By all means, show it, but don't give me this kind of presentation, for table scraps. It just shows how much out of touch Bioware still is with their audience. If we add COVID and remove crunch, the situation will be around the same I'll probably still be alive in 2024, to say I told you so. And I'm going to say again, the game that Bioware will have ready in 2022, you don't want it. Worst of all, EA won't want it. Again, though, you’re assuming that the project is right now as the same level as Anthem in 2017, which there’s no proof it is. There is no proof the project is on any level, other than conceptual. Which is why they showed conceptual prototypes only and concept art. The implication that you are making is that the game is more along development than they are letting you in on. There's not even a pre-alpha gameplay prototype. The game simply is not. It's been in 18 to 20 months of pre production and about 12 to 15 of standard production, estimated, if we go by May to July of 2019 being the wrap up for Anthem and full transition to production. By let's say May of 2022, it will be another 19 months of further production. Assuming nothing is scrapped and they are basically confident that what was shown is in game total, production will be around an estimated 31 to 33 months. The cause for concern is the lack of anything shown, but I would counter that by saying this doesnt seem like a scrambling job to salvage a game like Anthem or Andromeda. Both of them had about 18 months of full production that moved the project forward to release. Dragon Age 2 was even crunchier, at 15 months. This dragon age, based on estimates, is already in decent shape after a whole cancellation and rework ifnit has been 15 months. Without crunch and a long launch window, we already got some mocap, script and voice acting, WIP environments and WIP combat that is probably further along than what they showed. Consider we also know it's for next gen hardware, we see graphical WIP, and again, the implication this time around it's not a rudderless ship. Covid might impact the flow of work still, and it is odd to show concept art and some tidbits here and there in this form... But I think it was deliberate to show the progress of the game because of Andromeda and Anthem, and to show that the game is in the state its in now. Now if they were smart, they would do WIP blogs every two months... Ultimately, I think they wanted to show the concepts more because that is what is fully locked down and ready to show. That to me implies were in full production for some time already, and pre has been finished to lock down some of that concept.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 28, 2020 12:28:23 GMT
Having sleep on this, my impression is that there is no dwarf in what was shown. And like two elves, one of which is Solas. Which would support the game being set after Solas removed the Veil and that ship/floating rocks concept art is very much how things looks like now. Also, Tevinter thriving with all the magic flowing around in another concept art. The Dwarves probably end up relinking with the Titans again and the Elves returned to what they were. That leaves humans and Qunari around. It wouldn't surprise me if that game was set many years after DAI. The inquisitor/calpernia/harding/hornedQunariWarrior concept art could from a cutscene/tutorial early in the game where they fail to stop Solas and then boom timeskip to "today". Also, there seems to be no distinct class segregation. Maybe they went back to DAO where everyone can use every weapon/armor as long as they have the stats for it? Or they turned class progression into a classless system? But yeah, our leggy girl on the left is... definitely not Harding. And wow - 3rd guy from the right really does look Assassin's Creed. Similar symbol on their belt too... I didn't label that person AssassinCreedWannabe for nothing. And while it looks like a Tevinter-related spellcaster, the fashion sense land closer to Cassandra's ( her heavy armor with the coat without the big spaulders and a different belt shape. She also had hood in some DAI concept-art, but the Tevinter casters DAI concept art have a bette matching hood). And I just realized that this person is holding a sword... Also QunariLady seems to have black hair here, while they are white in other concept arts and FlameHead doesn't look like the concept art FlameHead, but they are clearly from the same "brand" of FlameHeads.
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