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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 30, 2020 17:05:47 GMT
If we take the airborne aravel concept art as an hint that the Veil is gone at some point in the game (more because of the floating rocks than the floating aravel), that would mean there would be some socio-political changes in Thedas. It's will empower the mages and scare even more people already scared of magic. Well if Solas was telling the truth, then most of those people scared by magic will be dead. None of the socio-political changes will matter either because the current ruling elite and the Qun will be eliminated, even Tevinter, unless magical power allows you to survive but it is not likely to be for long once the elven pay back time starts. However, if it doesn't pan out as Solas anticipated then it might resolve itself something along the lines you suggest. I don't think the Dalish would remain nomads though. They'd likely return to Arlathan or the Dales and then knock the stuffing out of anyone who tried to take it from them, bearing in mind they would now be fully charged up with magic again and the elves of Arlathan fought Tevinter to a standstill for 6 years when according to Solas they were effectively tranquil. Also, there would likely be a whole new range of nasties that people would have to deal with, particularly the Evanuris if his "plans" for them didn't work. Small point I thought I should mention, it is not Antiva that has the seers and the Qunari enclave but Rivain. Antiva has the merchant princes and the Crows but ostensibly fully Andrastrian.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 30, 2020 17:07:48 GMT
Or do people think it's him because he's the only named male Nevarran undead character that we know of? I think it is the latter and the flaming skull head is not mentioned in the narrative as far as I can remember. I thought he looked normal and just didn't realise he was undead but may be I missed something. (Will read it again tonight).
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 30, 2020 17:08:05 GMT
Let's hope it's friendly It's blue, it should be friendly. Right?
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 30, 2020 17:11:15 GMT
I guess it is no surprise with gatlock present in the lore. Intriguing to say the least, curious how they will handle it. In Trespasser, we saw Qunari having multi-barreled gatlock cannons positioned around their fort. So I’m guessing they are going to go with early hand-cannons. They could also do what Ghost of Tsushima did and have extremely short-range, hand cannon clubs that have a strong knockdown/stun damage. Also in DA2 and Mark of the Assassin, there were plots of non-Qunari trying to acquire gunpowder to no avail.
It is clear that at some point, it looks like this next DA game, we will get to see early gunpowder handheld weapons being used.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 30, 2020 17:12:44 GMT
We don't know any of their names, but people have been speculating at lot that it was him (the undead). He seems similar to other undeads in another concept art with clear Nevarran's motifs. But it could just be someone similar to Audric, and the short story was made to explain how it happens. Saying that, the Grand Necropolis is just pure madness and I can't wait to visit it. I didn't read the story (it's sitting on my nightstand still). Does it explain why he has a flaming skull for a head? Because that seems pretty.....distinct of a feature. Or do people think it's him because he's the only named male Nevarran undead character that we know of? He actually doesn't have a flame head in the story, none are said to have such a distinctive feature actually. But the green flames appears in other descriptions of the Grand Necropolis. He's also not the only named male Nevarran undead in said story, he's just one of the main character. Also, the others just don't have much personality...or too much.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Aug 30, 2020 17:20:45 GMT
If we take the airborne aravel concept art as an hint that the Veil is gone at some point in the game (more because of the floating rocks than the floating aravel), that would mean there would be some socio-political changes in Thedas. Am I the only one that thought that concept art depicted The Crossroads? The floating ruins are kind of the hallmark of The Crossroads, right? If we could see that the sky was all psychedelic, that would clinch it.
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Post by Rascoth on Aug 30, 2020 17:23:48 GMT
Let's hope it's friendly It's blue, it should be friendly. Right?
The Guardian was also blue, and that thing was definitely not friendly.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 30, 2020 17:27:59 GMT
Also in DA2 and Mark of the Assassin, there were plots of non-Qunari trying to acquire gunpowder to no avail. We do not know exactly what Gaatlok is but the Dragon's Breath version actually involved using dragon blood, so more blood magic than gunpowder. Also we have the recipe that Anders used on the Chantry, which I would have thought all those interested in having explosives to match the Qunari would be fighting to get hold of, plus the dwarf Dworkin must have come up with something very close to Gaatlok because the Qunari tried to kill him for it. His version could be enhanced with lyrium sand. I'm not saying they can't have guns in Thedas but they may not be powered by conventional gunpowder.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 30, 2020 17:28:51 GMT
If we take the airborne aravel concept art as an hint that the Veil is gone at some point in the game (more because of the floating rocks than the floating aravel), that would mean there would be some socio-political changes in Thedas. It's will empower the mages and scare even more people already scared of magic. So make Trespasser even more of a middle finger because the final choices meant nothing?
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Post by azarhal on Aug 30, 2020 17:29:21 GMT
If we take the airborne aravel concept art as an hint that the Veil is gone at some point in the game (more because of the floating rocks than the floating aravel), that would mean there would be some socio-political changes in Thedas. Am I the only one that thought that concept art depicted The Crossroads? The floating ruins are kind of the hallmark of The Crossroads, right? If we could see that the sky was all psychedelic, that would clinch it. Too many mountains in the backgrounds. The place kinda looks like the elven mountain ruins we visit in Trespasser too, but with added gigantic carved rock face.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 30, 2020 17:31:36 GMT
Am I the only one that thought that concept art depicted The Crossroads? The floating ruins are kind of the hallmark of The Crossroads, right? They could be the Crossroads or perhaps the Crossroads has finally started to merge with the Waking World, whilst the Veil is still intact. You will recall that a mage/elf Inquisitor can mention that it seems to be weakening when Morrigan takes them there.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 30, 2020 17:32:32 GMT
If we take the airborne aravel concept art as an hint that the Veil is gone at some point in the game (more because of the floating rocks than the floating aravel), that would mean there would be some socio-political changes in Thedas. It's will empower the mages and scare even more people already scared of magic. Well if Solas was telling the truth, then most of those people scared by magic will be dead. None of the socio-political changes will matter either because the current ruling elite and the Qun will be eliminated, even Tevinter, unless magical power allows you to survive but it is not likely to be for long once the elven pay back time starts. However, if it doesn't pan out as Solas anticipated then it might resolve itself something along the lines you suggest. I don't think the Dalish would remain nomads though. They'd likely return to Arlathan or the Dales and then knock the stuffing out of anyone who tried to take it from them, bearing in mind they would now be fully charged up with magic again and the elves of Arlathan fought Tevinter to a standstill for 6 years when according to Solas they were effectively tranquil. Also, there would likely be a whole new range of nasties that people would have to deal with, particularly the Evanuris if his "plans" for them didn't work. Small point I thought I should mention, it is not Antiva that has the seers and the Qunari enclave but Rivain. Antiva has the merchant princes and the Crows but ostensibly fully Andrastrian. Solas has no idea what he's talking about. He's always talking as if he knows everything but his "I'm going to do X and Y will be the result" always turn into "I did X, but Z happened ". The Dalish have very few mages now or population in general. They don't have numbers to deal with a souped up Tevinter even if they are also souped up. As for Arlathan, going by a Tevinter Nights story, the Dalish could already live there, if the local magical fauna would let them or anyone do so... And I knew I forgot/mixed-up a place...Rivain. Antiva princes will probably do like Orlais, buy mages. I'm not sure if there would be that many more new nasties, I mean, Hormak exist without the Veil being torn down. The Evanuris, that's another story, but also very similar to Corypheus...and there is a bunch like him around already.
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 30, 2020 17:42:59 GMT
It's blue, it should be friendly. Right?
The Guardian was also blue, and that thing was definitely not friendly. Weeeeeeell we did got into it's backyard.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 30, 2020 17:48:29 GMT
The problem is the arrogance and the condescending nature of some critics today. While some are genuine, I can't help but feel that the critics and people who are following have a smug sense of superiority like they're better than me because they hate ME: A and I like them. In my view, critics especially video game critics on Youtube have devolved into a cult where it's less criticism and more of making the game devs and their fans feel bad for like a game and holding the "wrong" opinion. Just look at guys like Dunkey or even folks like Angry Joe fans would eagerly shove their videos down your throat if you dare say a conflicting opinion. It was even tough being a Star Wars prequel fan because of the cult like mentality of the RLM reviews, fans thinking that they're smart and enlightened because they watched their reviews. From being on the receiving end of having the "wrong" opinion and being called racial slurs, receiving threats and even feeling not welcomed in fandoms like Dragon Age when my first game was DA 2, I saw people in the Dragon Age wiki site spam smudboy videos and acting high and mighty because they watched it. People now and days seem to watch reviews to tell them what to think instead of thinking for themselves. It's not just in reviews. I just went over to the reddit/r/Games thread for the DA4 behind-the-scene and half the posts are already saying the game will be crap using deformed information or falsehoods. Also, plenty of "Shut up, BioWare" in there too. I've been feeling it for a few years: there is a group of people on the Internet who just want their "EA killed BioWare" meme to become true. It's been 13 years and it haven't happened yet, they are getting angsty. Well Bioware is also known as the "SJW" game company so some people would want it to fail because of that.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Aug 30, 2020 17:52:29 GMT
Or do people think it's him because he's the only named male Nevarran undead character that we know of? I think it is the latter and the flaming skull head is not mentioned in the narrative as far as I can remember. I thought he looked normal and just didn't realise he was undead but may be I missed something. (Will read it again tonight). That was the impression I got as well. If he's on fire now, then that's new.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 30, 2020 17:53:31 GMT
The flaming head may not be in the actual game, but just to capture the otherworldly mood that character will have.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Aug 30, 2020 17:57:50 GMT
Think Audric could even leave the necropolis without the Mourn Watch with him? I got the impression that he was able to keep his identity and sense of self b/c of the lady with him. And she was on alert the whole time for if he turned and went full mindless zombie.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Aug 30, 2020 18:08:02 GMT
Do you suppose the gigantic stone head in the foreground could be the statue of Elgar'nan we heard about? I always thought that was over in the Exalted Plains because of that huge hand we found there but we don't know in what context this image might appear, so it could even be a flash back/Fade vision or alternatively a location that was originally dedicated to the elven gods and Elgar'nan had another one of his statues. A bit of a stretch, but I was thinking it could be inside of a Titan. The mountains have a peculiar shape, pointed upward like pillars, protruding through the other side of the clouds. Maybe it’s the land beneath the clouds we see in Descent? Renn, the Legionare in Descent, did say that a dwarf came back from being lost in the deep roads and spoke of “floating boats”, only for them to lose their memory shortly afterward. It could also be an “in between” world, like the Crossroads. We’ve seen floating stuff there. Whatever it is, it’s something we’ve never seen before, and I’m leaning toward it being a base/safe haven, at the very least. Perhaps from The Dread Wolf’s grasps?
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I think it is the latter and the flaming skull head is not mentioned in the narrative as far as I can remember. I thought he looked normal and just didn't realise he was undead but may be I missed something. (Will read it again tonight). That was the impression I got as well. If he's on fire now, then that's new. Interesting, then this all makes me think that it's unlikely to be Audric. I just read a summary of that story. If both of the flame heads are the same person, then it seems off from what I've read of Audric, especially given the ritualistic nature of that one photo. Seems more like a lich necromancer than a resurrected city guardsman. Especially if the appearance doesn't match Audric either.
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Post by Gwydden on Aug 30, 2020 18:34:17 GMT
Interesting, then this all makes me think that it's unlikely to be Audric. I just read a summary of that story. If both of the flame heads are the same person, then it seems off from what I've read of Audric, especially given the ritualistic nature of that one photo. Seems more like a lich necromancer than a resurrected city guardsman. Especially if the appearance doesn't match Audric either. I think it's unlikely many companions will be familiar faces. In Inquisition, only three out of the nine were from previous media, and only one was a returning companion. In DA2, three characters were from DA:O/ Awakening, and of those only one was a companion again.
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Interesting, then this all makes me think that it's unlikely to be Audric. I just read a summary of that story. If both of the flame heads are the same person, then it seems off from what I've read of Audric, especially given the ritualistic nature of that one photo. Seems more like a lich necromancer than a resurrected city guardsman. Especially if the appearance doesn't match Audric either. I think it's unlikely many companions will be familiar faces. In Inquisition, only three out of the nine were from previous media, and only one was a returning companion. In DA2, three characters were from DA:O/ Awakening, and of those only one was a companion again. Totally agreed. I suspect we'll get about 2-4 of the companions from previous media. And I suspect the rest will be new characters. Qunari lady seems like a brand new one. And if Davrin and Bellara are both companions (which I'm not convinced of, personally), then that's two more. And I tend to think that the flamehead necromancer guy is likely new. That's half of the cast right there.
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Post by Syv on Aug 30, 2020 18:42:05 GMT
So nobody thinks that blonde female character could be Calpernia ? While that female character on these two pictures doesn't wear her usual stuff, clothes and hairstyle, she does have three things that makes me think of Calpernia : - First, obviously she is blonde ( Don't see why she couldn't change between games and couldn't get another hairstyle in DA4 ) - That blonde character, the way she stands, raises her arm and watches with her eyes does seem pride on both pictures ( Calpernia is that sort of girl that would rather kill herself than letting the inquisitor kills her instead ) - And she is using fire on the second pic, which we have already seen Calpernia doing. The Inquisitor may reveal the Elder One's intent to betray and bind Calpernia as he did with her previous owner, Erasthenes if the Shrine of Dumat was investigated. If so, Calpernia demands that the Inquisitor proves his claim, to which he shows her a scroll containing the ritual used to bind her old master. After reading the contents of the scroll, Calpernia becomes furious and burns the scroll in a rage before revealing the reasons why she joined the Elder One in the first place. If instead you take the path of killing her, she is also using fire and she burns everything she can in the gameplay combat against her, even creating whole powerful and violent walls of fire. Obviously fire is her thing ! The venatori are now looked down upon even in Tevinter, she could join this group of folks if Solas threatens the fate of her country. She still remains a patriot. Then, according to Patrick Weekes, Calpernia quickly became a favorite of the writers due to her intriguing story and personality. I'm more thinking of her right now, than Maevaris who has quite some political power in Tevinter, that I see more as an adviser or behind that group without power or going to help /join them at one point. The size of that blonde character in the first page, doesn't mean much to me, that picture is likely one of the first, one of the oldest, it's the one I trust the least to be honest for knowing which character has not been removed, unless I've seen them in other several concept arts, like the female Qunari, for example.
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Post by linksocarina on Aug 30, 2020 19:07:05 GMT
For example, I never understood why people were so mad about hair and clothing options for Inquisition. Is it because of a lack of variety? Because it doesn't conform to what individuals think looks good? Expectations that its a new game engine = more options or designs?
For my part it was the fact that the hair options were better and more varied in the previous two games. I mean, how many variations on bald/crew cut do you need? Also, personally, I thought having unisex options didn't work, rather than gender specific, but I could have lived with it if there had just been a bit more variety in style.
Also, initially that casual wear for Skyhold did hardly anyone any favours, which they fixed with the Black Emporium download later. It's a small matter, I know, but I did appreciate it when I was given other options. That's fair. For me personally, the unisex options were fine, and I think should still be included for future choices. I actually kind of liked a few of the short haircuts, particularly the one that is similar to Krem's hair style. A lot of people really like long-hair it seems? I guess i'm in the minority on that since I don't usually use them for male or female characters.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 30, 2020 19:08:31 GMT
So nobody thinks that blonde female character could be Calpernia ? While that female character on these two pictures doesn't wear her usual stuff, clothes and hairstyle, she does have three things that makes me think of Calpernia : - First, obviously she is blonde ( Don't see why she couldn't change between games and couldn't get another hairstyle in DA4 ) - That blonde character, the way she stands, raises her arm and watches with her eyes does seem pride on both pictures ( Calpernia is that sort of girl that would rather kill herself than letting the inquisitor kills her instead ) - And she is using fire on the second pic, which we have already seen Calpernia doing. The Inquisitor may reveal the Elder One's intent to betray and bind Calpernia as he did with her previous owner, Erasthenes if the Shrine of Dumat was investigated. If so, Calpernia demands that the Inquisitor proves his claim, to which he shows her a scroll containing the ritual used to bind her old master. After reading the contents of the scroll, Calpernia becomes furious and burns the scroll in a rage before revealing the reasons why she joined the Elder One in the first place. If instead you take the path of killing her, she is also using fire and she burns everything she can in the gameplay combat against her, even creating whole powerful and violent walls of fire. Obviously fire is her thing ! The venatori are now looked down upon even in Tevinter, she could join this group of folks if Solas threatens the fate of her country. She still remains a patriot. Then, according to Patrick Weekes, Calpernia quickly became a favorite of the writers due to her intriguing story and personality. I'm more thinking of her right now, than Maevaris who has quite some political power in Tevinter, that I see more as an adviser or behind that group without power or going to help /join them at one point. The size of that blonde character in the first page, doesn't mean much to me, that picture is likely one of the first, one of the oldest, it's the one I trust the least to be honest for knowing which character has not been removed, unless I've seen them in other several concept arts, like the female Qunari, the warden for example. I'm not sure it's the same character in both images, but in the second one, yeah... that could be Calpernia. Earlier it was pointed out she's wearing a similar ornament on her head as in her concept art.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 19:13:13 GMT
So nobody thinks that blonde female character could be Calpern While that female character on these two pictures doesn't wear her usual stuff, clothes and hairstyle, she does have three things that makes me think of Calpernia : - First, obviously she is blonde ( Don't see why she couldn't change between games and couldn't get another hairstyle in DA4 ) - That blonde character, the way she stands, raises her arm and watches with her eyes does seem pride on both pictures ( Calpernia is that sort of girl that would rather kill herself than letting the inquisitor kills her instead ) - And she is using fire on the second pic, which we have already seen Calpernia doing. The Inquisitor may reveal the Elder One's intent to betray and bind Calpernia as he did with her previous owner, Erasthenes if the Shrine of Dumat was investigated. If so, Calpernia demands that the Inquisitor proves his claim, to which he shows her a scroll containing the ritual used to bind her old master. After reading the contents of the scroll, Calpernia becomes furious and burns the scroll in a rage before revealing the reasons why she joined the Elder One in the first place. If instead you take the path of killing her, she is also using fire and she burns everything she can in the gameplay combat against her, even creating whole powerful and violent walls of fire. Obviously fire is her thing ! The venatori are now looked down upon even in Tevinter, she could join this group of folks if Solas threatens the fate of her country. She still remains a patriot. Then, according to Patrick Weekes, Calpernia quickly became a favorite of the writers due to her intriguing story and personality. I'm more thinking of her right now, than Maevaris who has quite some political power in Tevinter, that I see more as an adviser or behind that group without power or going to help /join them at one point. The size of that blonde character in the first page, doesn't mean much to me, that picture is likely one of the first, one of the oldest, it's the one I trust the least to be honest for knowing which character has not been removed, unless I've seen them in other several concept arts, like the female Qunari, the warden for example. I'm not sure it's the same character in both images, but in the second one, yeah... that could be Calpernia. Earlier it pointed out she's wearing a similar ornament on her head as in her concept art. Wow, when you put the Calpernia concept up beside that photo, it's a strong match. Not just the headpiece but also the angular structure of her face and the shape of her eyes.
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