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Post by akots on Oct 29, 2024 23:52:56 GMT
Yeah...saw it got an 80 from Metacritic....still doesn't really change my plan - I will play it, but not at full price. I will wait for it to come down at a discount. I still want closure to this franchise, and I might enjoy it...but probably as much as I enjoyed Inquisition, which was middling at best. The Metacritic stuff may change. It is best to wait for at least a month to settle the average there IMO. I will wait for Angry Joe. If he gives 7/10, I might get it after a major price drop, depending on the mood. If he gives 5-6/10, I'll skip. For me, the main turn offs are seriously bad writing for the story, clearly broken RPG aspect, and the lack of blood/gore and hence the lack of immersion for me for combat. Cartoonish look is annoying but I think I can live with that.
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Post by Guardian on Oct 30, 2024 0:01:54 GMT
Yeah...saw it got an 80 from Metacritic....still doesn't really change my plan - I will play it, but not at full price. I will wait for it to come down at a discount. I still want closure to this franchise, and I might enjoy it...but probably as much as I enjoyed Inquisition, which was middling at best. The Metacritic stuff may change. It is best to wait for at least a month to settle the average there IMO. I will wait for Angry Joe. If he gives 7/10, I might get it after a major price drop, depending on the mood. If he gives 5-6/10, I'll skip. For me, the main turn offs are seriously bad writing for the story, clearly broken RPG aspect, and the lack of blood/gore and hence the lack of immersion for me for combat. Cartoonish look is annoying but I think I can live with that. Regardless of Metacritic, I still planned on waiting for a steep discount to play it.
I'm more shocked that SBI doesn't recommend this game? I'm not shocked any "woke detector" sites don't recommend it (I ignore those reviews, anyway), but SBI also says "don't play"? I want to know why?
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Post by Biotic Commando on Oct 30, 2024 0:15:21 GMT
Too politically incorrect, probably Having a big old greatsword is too much like having a big penis, can't have that. But real warriors carry around big fucking axes so I'm here for that. Knowing this new game, I bet the only available axes will be like the flail from that Barbaric one-shot comic. Fuck EVERY weapon will be
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Post by godkingsarevok on Oct 30, 2024 0:24:05 GMT
The Metacritic stuff may change. It is best to wait for at least a month to settle the average there IMO. I will wait for Angry Joe. If he gives 7/10, I might get it after a major price drop, depending on the mood. If he gives 5-6/10, I'll skip. For me, the main turn offs are seriously bad writing for the story, clearly broken RPG aspect, and the lack of blood/gore and hence the lack of immersion for me for combat. Cartoonish look is annoying but I think I can live with that. Regardless of Metacritic, I still planned on waiting for a steep discount to play it.
I'm more shocked that SBI doesn't recommend this game? I'm not shocked any "woke detector" sites don't recommend it (I ignore those reviews, anyway), but SBI also says "don't play"? I want to know why?
I remember the days when I had no idea who the group you're talking about actually are, and once Veilguard is out and in my hands I can go back to not following any upcoming games and I'll be ignorant to the world again. Last game I bought was BG3, the next game I'll buy is probably nothing for the next 5 years. But my understanding is that is more of a DEI/African American group and well Africa and America for that matter, doesn't exist in Thedas so no matter how much BioWare might want to, they can't really add any African American politics into the game, they can make an elf black but they can't really make him African. So makes sense SBI doesn't recommend.
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Post by godkingsarevok on Oct 30, 2024 0:26:50 GMT
Having a big old greatsword is too much like having a big penis, can't have that. But real warriors carry around big fucking axes so I'm here for that. Knowing this new game, I bet the only available axes will be like the flail from that Barbaric one-shot comic. Fuck EVERY weapon will be I'm unfamiliar with that comic, but if there was a flail even if I had to shield it up, I'd love that.
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Post by yarus on Oct 30, 2024 0:33:57 GMT
Thank you. This basically confirms what we already knew, they chose the direct sequel of DAI to begin a soft reboot in the series. Only one choice actually matters of the 3 they chose to import. I've never seen a game this resentful of itself and the IP it inhabits. This is the Jurassic World/Sequel Trilogy of Dragon Age
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Post by rekkampum on Oct 30, 2024 1:05:17 GMT
Regardless of Metacritic, I still planned on waiting for a steep discount to play it.
I'm more shocked that SBI doesn't recommend this game? I'm not shocked any "woke detector" sites don't recommend it (I ignore those reviews, anyway), but SBI also says "don't play"? I want to know why?
I remember the days when I had no idea who the group you're talking about actually are, and once Veilguard is out and in my hands I can go back to not following any upcoming games and I'll be ignorant to the world again. Last game I bought was BG3, the next game I'll buy is probably nothing for the next 5 years. But my understanding is that is more of a DEI/African American group and well Africa and America for that matter, doesn't exist in Thedas so no matter how much BioWare might want to, they can't really add any African American politics into the game, they can make an elf black but they can't really make him African. So makes sense SBI doesn't recommend. How does an elf being dark-skinned with tightly coiled hair in a series that has dark-skinned, Black-coded characters - including Tabris' mother - equal "African American"? He is an elven Warden that's a famous monster hunter, nothing more. If we went by metrics this shallow, then none of the humanoid characters who could easily be argued to be analogous to different RL groups in phenotype and culture - especially Orlesians, who literally have a bard that sings in French - would make sense in the game.
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Post by akots on Oct 30, 2024 1:15:11 GMT
I'm more shocked that SBI doesn't recommend this game? I'm not shocked any "woke detector" sites don't recommend it (I ignore those reviews, anyway), but SBI also says "don't play"? I want to know why? It might be not SBI itself but actually "SBI detected". I'll double check when I get back to Steam.
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Post by Biotic Commando on Oct 30, 2024 1:34:00 GMT
Knowing this new game, I bet the only available axes will be like the flail from that Barbaric one-shot comic. Fuck EVERY weapon will be I'm unfamiliar with that comic, but if there was a flail even if I had to shield it up, I'd love that. The flail in question was an enchanted, talking weapon that was horrified at the slaughter its master made it commit, hence the comparison. But in a game that doesn't even have something as basic as a greatsword, there will probably be no flails of any kind.
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Post by river82 on Oct 30, 2024 1:46:23 GMT
DAV has gone a lot further than that. Once I learned that companions don't have a health bar, they can't take damage and can't die, I had to take a moment just to digest it. Companions also do not draw aggro, all aggro is directed towards Rook. Yes and that's apparently a huge problem for ranged combat like mage or archer, I read! How is that good combat design?? I always play mage. I was literally debating whether to go mage or maaaybe archer... Apparently you get aggroed so much it makes mage gameplay frustrating. WTF is that?! Honestly, NO aspect in this game sounds well made. I loved playing space mage in Mass Effect. It was SO good in ME3! You could play ranged glass canon biotic or in your face vanguard, it was so much fun. I was trying to be optimistic that the Mass Effect-like gameplay was actually a good thing because I HATED DAI's combat. But if ranged combat really sucks ass then it's nothing like Mass Effect after all... Yup mage is my go to also. It kinda sucks
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Post by q5tyhj on Oct 30, 2024 2:02:39 GMT
I legit don't get it.. why do people have such a hate boner for this game? I mean I have my reasons for concern but I get the sense all these YouTubers are just really riding the hate train, but I really don't understand what fuels it Its definitely not a rational thing. I mean from the perspective of the rage-bait content creators I guess its rational- drumming up artificial outrage generates income for them. But for the average Joe? Just silly.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Oct 30, 2024 2:07:42 GMT
A dev who is not overly familiar with the franchise, thus does not understand "dragon age words" in the dialogue, but otherwise is a pretty good channel imo. He is on point about lack of logical connection between lines in that scene. Again, so weird it came from Weekes 🤨 And this interaction passed editing. Isn’t his wife Senior editor with decades of experience? Baffling
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Post by godkingsarevok on Oct 30, 2024 2:39:43 GMT
I remember the days when I had no idea who the group you're talking about actually are, and once Veilguard is out and in my hands I can go back to not following any upcoming games and I'll be ignorant to the world again. Last game I bought was BG3, the next game I'll buy is probably nothing for the next 5 years. But my understanding is that is more of a DEI/African American group and well Africa and America for that matter, doesn't exist in Thedas so no matter how much BioWare might want to, they can't really add any African American politics into the game, they can make an elf black but they can't really make him African. So makes sense SBI doesn't recommend. How does an elf being dark-skinned with tightly coiled hair in a series that has dark-skinned, Black-coded characters - including Tabris' mother - equal "African American"? He is an elven Warden that's a famous monster hunter, nothing more. If we went by metrics this shallow, then none of the humanoid characters who could easily be argued to be analogous to different RL groups in phenotype and culture - especially Orlesians, who literally have a bard that sings in French - would make sense in the game. Yeah that's kind of what I said, black isn't African therefor a group that's focused on African American representation in games isn't going to automatically support Veilguard even if they share similar ideologies.
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Post by Guardian on Oct 30, 2024 2:53:42 GMT
I'm more shocked that SBI doesn't recommend this game? I'm not shocked any "woke detector" sites don't recommend it (I ignore those reviews, anyway), but SBI also says "don't play"? I want to know why? It might be not SBI itself but actually "SBI detected". I'll double check when I get back to Steam. Ahh..okay; that would make much more sense. If it is them, I just ignore them as well.
It's possible that while yes, there are plenty of bad things (such as the writing and the tone), again, after this game goes on sale is when I will try it.
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Post by akots on Oct 30, 2024 3:05:24 GMT
Ahh..okay; that would make much more sense. If it is them, I just ignore them as well. I checked, and it is the "SBI detected" curator, as you pointed out. I had to scroll a few lines to the right since "detected" was not visible on the screen initially and I was not paying attention. IDK why I got all these curators in my Steam, probably because I never edited or changed anything that the Steam AI assigns to me.
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Post by jrpN7 on Oct 30, 2024 4:03:53 GMT
Am i the only one thinking the ending is going to be 'Dragon Age Suicide mission' Judging by the video of all companions listing all the quests Rook still need to make before they can take on the Evanuris in a very blatant and obvious way, much worse than Jacobs in ME2
maybe, might even be a carbon copy of it. If everyone is praising the end people might even die, Idk. I hope I can kill Taash off then, Miss non-binary "Don't tell me who I am." Guuurl, you're was/were; a pile of dragon chow now. Again, I'm not talking about Skillup or Matty or wolfheartFPS... I'm talking about all these low effort anty woke dudes that are simply Littering my feed with videos. I can pull ten different videos from the last several hours that are all like "Bioware EPIC fail! dragon Age Wokenes kills the studio!" And they are fucking everywhere. The thing you are talking about, is the thing we aren't allowed to discuss. On this forum, or anywhere else. Because it's Wrong Think. Ironically, preventing people the freedom to talk about any given subject only makes the subject that more popular and alerts people to possible subjection. I agree I think that's a primary reason there are so many rage vids on YT these days. It's a product of stifling culture control. You must think/believe/act a certain way or else you're an - ist, - phobe. It's why even moderate people find themselves at odds with modern ideologies. People generally don't like to be told what to think, especially so when it is condescending, and is why Veilguard's dialogue is so off-putting for many.
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Post by Guardian on Oct 30, 2024 4:14:29 GMT
Ahh..okay; that would make much more sense. If it is them, I just ignore them as well. I checked, and it is the "SBI detected" curator, as you pointed out. I had to scroll a few lines to the right since "detected" was not visible on the screen initially and I was not paying attention. IDK why I got all these curators in my Steam, probably because I never edited or changed anything that the Steam AI assigns to me. Probably the same reason why I get recommended "Asmongold" by YT, despite me keep saying "Do not recommend channel". I really despise algorithms sometimes
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Post by emissaryoflies on Oct 30, 2024 7:05:09 GMT
Pretty excited for tomorrow. No matter what happens I’ll get my entertainment. I want to take this time to thank CD Projekt Red, Todd Howard(multiple titles), Peter Molyneux, No Mans Sky, Andromeda, and the Star Wars franchise for preparing me for this moment. Couldn’t have made it without you.
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Post by fraggle on Oct 30, 2024 7:22:40 GMT
A dev who is not overly familiar with the franchise, thus does not understand "dragon age words" in the dialogue, but otherwise is a pretty good channel imo. He is on point about lack of logical connection between lines in that scene. Again, so weird it came from Weekes 🤨 And this interaction passed editing. Isn’t his wife Senior editor with decades of experience? Baffling I'm not sure the wife is still involved? We'll see once the credits drop I guess. For DAI she only did certain character interactions/main plot it seems. At least for the book Tevinter Nights there were a couple of people editing and she wasn't mentioned. The book still had some grave spelling and continuity errors which shocked me a little to be honest, though that didn't stop me from liking the stories
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 30, 2024 7:22:41 GMT
Having a big old greatsword is too much like having a big penis, can't have that. I know you are probably joking but I actually think that is the reason they have removed them. Can't have that big phallic symbol of masculinity in the game. Don't know what that says about me but I just love swinging my greatsword. I like riding horses too. They used to say that was just a substitute penis. Well I had a whole stable of them in DAI.
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 30, 2024 7:29:55 GMT
I don’t think it excuses BioWare, but as some pointed out online, it seems likely to me that the reason greatswords aren’t is because of the different animations they’d have required compared to what they did for two-handed warriors, which fit well hammers and greataxes.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 30, 2024 7:49:05 GMT
Sheesh at least give us back companions who go down within 3 seconds because they are too stupid to seek cover like in the good old days, BioWare! Yes, I know I found them annoying and since Iron Bull and Varric were the chief culprits in DAI, I invariably left them back at Skyhold but I'd rather have stupid companions that stand around being fire balled instead of remembering to take cover rather than companions who are invulnerable. The "last man standing" scenario was something that created actual tension for me in game. Sometimes I was the one knocked out along with two of my companions and it was down to Alistair or even Morrigan to save the day by hanging in there and ending the fight. It was the same in subsequent games, although my Knight Enchanter was so overpowered that they were never in danger of hitting the deck, whilst I tended to leave my companions on the floor whilst I dealt with the enemy. I said that playing one was fun but I didn't mean I wanted every game to be like that from the very beginning. Also, because they were overpowered the fights ended relatively quickly. Instead they now have fights that take forever to complete, often against regular canon fodder rather than actual boss battles and your companions are just like another accessory that adds to the damage your inflict. That is no fun at all. Oh for the days of the old D&D Baldurs Gate where we had 5 companions and all were necessary to win a battle (particularly as if the PC hit the deck it was game over). Then it was down to 3 but still each still made a vital contribution. Now it is down to two who contribute very little and it is just a slog as a result.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 30, 2024 7:54:46 GMT
I don’t think it excuses BioWare, but as some pointed out online, it seems likely to me that the reason greatswords aren’t is because of the different animations they’d have required compared to what they did for two-handed warriors, which fit well hammers and greataxes. That was never a problem in previous games. Look at all the iconic greatswords we were given. They are still using Frostbite, so it is not as though they changed engines and this created problems. Any problems with animation should have been solved with DAI. It probably does explain why the two handed enemies are so predictable because they never use anything different either.
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 30, 2024 8:00:29 GMT
Weapons are just ability/combo tools now - hammers and axes can do a "slam the ground" ability animation but for greatswords that would look silly. That's probably all it is.
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