Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

*Dawn of the Final Day*. Besides 10/10 IGN, what sorts of scores y’all expecting? Going to guess eights for at least the first few days. Then sixes and sevens from more noteworthy creators.

I think the ratings will depend on how much affinity the reviewer has for the Dragon Age setting and Origins in particular. I expect a 7 or 8 out of 10 from the likes of Skill Up, but a 5/10 from Angry Joe.

11/10 from IGN for sure, though. They’ve been shilling Veilguard pretty intensely.

Hard to tell what the review scores will be. I remember a 6/10 for Andromeda at one gaming site, forget which. Otherwise the scores were more favorable by journalists. I expect DAV to score 7-9 on average, 8 the most picked, better than Andromeda overall. Some of my favorite games have a 8/10 rating. So I will have to read very carefully and watch some gameplay to get an idea what my person score could be. I'll be surprised if my own verdict is better than 7.

Still torn by my desire to play and discuss right away even if I end up hating the game and doing the reasonable thing and buying on discount. It's not about the money not even the time wasted. I just really hate rewarding a creative direction I dislike. Watching somebody else play is never the same thing as experiencing something myself. Ughhhh...

I personally prefer reviewer that dont score things but more like just give their "I like this, I don't like this and this is why". Since reviews are really mostly personal experiences.
I check Gameranx for those reviews and then Digital Foundry for more technical review and Skill Up. IGN is trash these days so I dont care about them.

Thank you for the excerpt, when can we expect your full review? 😁

Agreed, if the story and characters are dope, I am incredibly forgiving. Hence DA2 being one of my favorite games of all time.

I think the game very well ending up as great experience for me, depending on how they handled the story and characters. While it's entirely subjective, what I've seen in regards of the exploration of the lore of the franchise (which I hoped they'd focus on in this game), is among the things I'm most interested on in the game, and what makes me want to play it before being spoiled. I do also think there's a good chance the antagonists are handled better then in Inquisition, from what they shown so far (and I'm happy that they decided to keep Elgarn'nan hidden in marketing the game).

On the other hand, some of the choices they made in regards of development, regardless if forced by previous issues and iterations of the game or not, will likely hold the game back for me, namely the import issue (and how jarring is going to be to talk with established characters with no reference of previous choices and events conditioned by those), and combat.

I overall value story/characters more then combat, and I'll judge Veilguard's with an open mind with what it actually is and not the shift from previous games. I think I could still find its combat fun and engaging, but it's simply not my favorite type for RPGs. I prefer to control the party in full, and I dislike the separation in skills, abilities equipment in regards of the protagonist and the party. The party reduction is another concern.

The only 'recent' game which story, characters managed to completely overshadow a gameplay I wasn't a big fan of was TW3. I liked a lot FF XVI but it didn't come close to the former, although that game has also other big issues that concerned me. I'd be happy to be wrong, though.

I could see it happening...I only said he'd give it a 6/10 because that's what he gave MEA (if memory serves).  I think he's the only one of the crew that's going to play unless the guys change their minds watching him.  Of course I wouldn't expect that review for 3-4 weeks after release.

I got so bored with the settings/companions I never finished that game.
I watched the end quickly on Youtube. And honestly I don't remember anything from MEA.

I don't think DATV can be worst than that for me either.

You should absolutely come suffer with us.

This is exactly why I love ME2 - the story was...middling at best I'd say, but the cast and crew more than made up for it. It's why I've lost count of how many times I've played it (must be at least over 50 or so).

Also agreed; for me as well, I don't see Veilguard being any worse than Andromeda was, but roughly on the same level. An okay-ish game that at the end of it, will just mostly be forgotten about as a whole. This is probably going to be the direction going forward, though; time will tell.

Wouldn't the issue, in that scenario, be the overuse of the , then the actual dialogue? Light dialogues without big choices were always present in previous games.

When they shown it at first, I thought it was an interest addition, but if it basically pop up for every single choice you make, even light ones, it might get repetitive and boring right away.