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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 17, 2020 23:53:00 GMT
Besides has anyone even heard of the ridiculous crunch that Rockstar employees went through just to make that game? It's amazing that it didn't get that much attention. It's not that amazing if you ask me. We pay a lot of lip service to the idea that crunch is bad, but we continue to reward the studios for engaging in it by buying the games. Is anyone here SERIOUSLY planning to pass on Cyberpunk because the studio is crunching after they promised not to? Probably not, right? I'm passing on it because it's a 1st person game, and I get motion sickness. The fact that I'm also passing on a game from a known crunch studio is a bonus.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Oct 17, 2020 23:59:57 GMT
It's not that amazing if you ask me. We pay a lot of lip service to the idea that crunch is bad, but we continue to reward the studios for engaging in it by buying the games. Is anyone here SERIOUSLY planning to pass on Cyberpunk because the studio is crunching after they promised not to? Probably not, right? I'm passing on it because it's a 1st person game, and I get motion sickness. The fact that I'm also passing on a game from a known crunch studio is a bonus. I mean, this proves my point. Some people were never going to buy the game in the first place for reasons of personal taste. I doubt that anyone in here, including myself, has suddenly cancelled their preorder because CDPR broke their promise to not crunch.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 18, 2020 0:05:59 GMT
I'm passing on it because it's a 1st person game, and I get motion sickness. The fact that I'm also passing on a game from a known crunch studio is a bonus. I mean, this proves my point. Some people were never going to buy the game in the first place for reasons of personal taste. I doubt that anyone in here, including myself, has suddenly cancelled their preorder because CDPR broke their promise to not crunch. I didn't even know they made that promise. It's a lousy move on their part, though.
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Post by duskwanderer on Oct 19, 2020 10:48:07 GMT
As I understand it, the crunch story is false. I'm waiting for Cyberpunk but that's because my machine is old.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 19, 2020 12:18:46 GMT
As I understand it, the crunch story is false. I'm waiting for Cyberpunk but that's because my machine is old.
Yeah. Waiting until I upgrade my PC with the new ZEN 3. Currently. I'm using a " light " PC for day-to-day work. The Ryzen 5, 2400G CPU is fast enough to run Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access.
I got my number of game crashes, though they're few and far between now. What keeps me going is the characters and story. I remember Bio saying, before DA:I was launched, that the game had "deep characters". Well, they don't hold a candle to BG3's companions. The other thing I found out is that the game can be played non linear. Combat is slow, though. Everybody takes their turn one-at-a-time. ... XCOM like, including the animations.
Bio, I hope, will have speedier combat with DA4. Well, anything is faster than BG3 combat.... it's XCOM after all. Still, the game draws me in. This "hook" is something that Bio's game devs must put in DA4, imo.
If Bio's mgt is smart, the studio is playing BG3 + learn what this game has, that can be put to good use in DA4.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Oct 22, 2020 23:41:43 GMT
If Bio's mgt is smart, the studio is playing BG3 + learn what this game has, that can be put to good use in DA4. I think Dragon Age has moved so far down a different path from Baldur's Gate, they can hardly salvage any ideas of BGIII. Maybe some minor design elements or ideas about story telling here and there but that's about it. I think
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Post by smilesja on Oct 23, 2020 1:25:22 GMT
As I understand it, the crunch story is false. I'm waiting for Cyberpunk but that's because my machine is old.
Yeah. Waiting until I upgrade my PC with the new ZEN 3. Currently. I'm using a " light " PC for day-to-day work. The Ryzen 5, 2400G CPU is fast enough to run Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access.
I got my number of game crashes, though they're few and far between now. What keeps me going is the characters and story. I remember Bio saying, before DA:I was launched, that the game had "deep characters". Well, they don't hold a candle to BG3's companions. The other thing I found out is that the game can be played non linear. Combat is slow, though. Everybody takes their turn one-at-a-time. ... XCOM like, including the animations.
Bio, I hope, will have speedier combat with DA4. Well, anything is faster than BG3 combat.... it's XCOM after all. Still, the game draws me in. This "hook" is something that Bio's game devs must put in DA4, imo.
If Bio's mgt is smart, the studio is playing BG3 + learn what this game has, that can be put to good use in DA4.
DAI had some of my favorite companions in the game and besides it sounds like BG3's sounds kinda of boring. If any thing I think they should just take a look at the environments of BG3 at least they look pretty.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 23, 2020 2:43:09 GMT
Yeah. Waiting until I upgrade my PC with the new ZEN 3. Currently. I'm using a " light " PC for day-to-day work. The Ryzen 5, 2400G CPU is fast enough to run Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access.
I got my number of game crashes, though they're few and far between now. What keeps me going is the characters and story. I remember Bio saying, before DA:I was launched, that the game had "deep characters". Well, they don't hold a candle to BG3's companions. The other thing I found out is that the game can be played non linear. Combat is slow, though. Everybody takes their turn one-at-a-time. ... XCOM like, including the animations.
Bio, I hope, will have speedier combat with DA4. Well, anything is faster than BG3 combat.... it's XCOM after all. Still, the game draws me in. This "hook" is something that Bio's game devs must put in DA4, imo.
If Bio's mgt is smart, the studio is playing BG3 + learn what this game has, that can be put to good use in DA4.
DAI had some of my favorite companions in the game and besides it sounds like BG3's sounds kinda of boring. If any thing I think they should just take a look at the environments of BG3 at least they look pretty. not even sure of that. I mean just watched one gp vid before deciding it wasn't for me but the environments look super good in a skybox uninteractable way.
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 23, 2020 14:02:04 GMT
I can’t play BG3’s early access right now, but it seems the kind of game that I’d definitely want to play. That said, I don’t think BioWare will take much from the game, even if they’d return some of the mechanics that got lost between DAO and DAI (I’d really like to have back stats allocation. If not, let’s just scrap them, and not have them being basically static and increased only with certain talents and items). Even DAO was way, way different from BG3 in terms of mechanics.
BG3 aims to replicate as much as possible the experience of DnD. I’d argue that even in older games, with the addition of the tactical pause, BioWare shown that they aim to streamline the experience of a tabletop game (a turn based combat is more ‘fit’ to replicate DnD combat). That’s not necessarily a bad thing, it’s just a different view towards making a RPG.
To me, DA was clearly made with the intent to make a fantasy new IP and RPG not connected to the DnD system, and while DAO is considered a great game and RPG, overall, I did see plenty of comments in different forums about how the game is a watered down version of their previous ones, in regards of role playing mechanics. So I honestly think that even if the DA4 would have deeper role playing mechanics, or a return to a slower pace of combat more akin to DAO (which I’d be personally doubtful), it’d hardly resembles BG3’s system.
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Post by cloud9 on Oct 28, 2020 20:31:23 GMT
I've yet to place my own skepticisms in here, but I do have a lingering one based off the idea that BioWare somehow manages to up their narrative game. For me, even if the narrative side of DA4 is improved over their, to the point that it could stand with other prominent story-driven games like RDR2 or TLOU, there's still the technical side of things that has me skeptical. BioWare isn't really known for their attention to detail, and yet many of their competitors are pushing the limits of their engines to a degree that much of the game world is becoming more "alive". For example, Rockstar managed to simulate an actual mirror in RDR2. That's tough programming work but they managed to pull it off. Even the rocks in the ground could be dislodged and move as if they were real-world objects. Then you have the various locales you could visit and their various denizens. You look at a game like Assassins Creed: Origins, and that game had NPC's participating in daily jobs and activities. Ubisoft even went out of their way to assigns different jobs based on the locality these NPC's were inhabiting. One notable area in the game had its citizens harvesting various plants for their pigments, and you would see field hands cutting up plants while others would be mixing the pigments. When night came, they would go home, eat, and sleep. There's also the aspect of making the cities themselves feel like they're bustling and large. If Tevinter is planned as a location that we'll be visiting, then Minrathus will most likely be one of its premiere areas. Is BioWare gonna take the time to flesh out this city with people who have jobs, or are they just going to be statically placed NPC's who do nothing but gesticulate? TW3 had plenty of citizens in Novigrad, and they had their own patterns and behaviors. Homes and establishments could be entered, and so on. Point I'm trying to make is that, BioWare could make a good (maybe even great) game if the story and character sides of them game are standouts. But if they want it to be a masterpiece, they need to dig much deeper on the technical elements of the game. As it stands now, the only notable places that they excel or do well in is the lighting and visuals; by way of Frostbite. Agreed.
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Post by Adia on Dec 4, 2020 16:00:17 GMT
I just hope they get a proper development cycle this time. DA always suffered from big issues in development, from DA:O to DA:I. Now that Casey is back I'm cautiously hopeful. I remember it was said that his team was always laser focused, and a clear vision is exactly what Bioware lacked for Anthem and ME:A. So with enough support from EA DA4 might be great. nvm then
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 4, 2020 20:03:55 GMT
Dragon Age 4 is going to be complete shit.
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Post by goishen on Dec 6, 2020 2:01:47 GMT
Look, I don't come here much anymore, because well... BioWare games as of late have been a huge dumpster fire. And you can try and slice it it any which way you want to slice it, the fact of the matter is that the GM of a company without a replacement if he's leaving on good terms. Casey Hudson said "Fuck this shit, I'm out." I dunno what it was over, but given the theme of this, and other, threads, I think I can guess.
All I can say is to you is to be prepared for disappointment. Or maybe not. I dunno. Some of you will prolly still be playing this game when it decides to fuck you out of all of your money, and still have you smiling about it.
God help whoever that's gonna be.
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Post by NotN7 on Dec 6, 2020 2:41:26 GMT
Look, I don't come here much anymore, because well... BioWare games as of late have been a huge dumpster fire. And you can try and slice it it any which way you want to slice it, the fact of the matter is that the GM of a company without a replacement if he's leaving on good terms. Casey Hudson said "Fuck this shit, I'm out." I dunno what it was over, but given the theme of this, and other, threads, I think I can guess. All I can say is to you is to be prepared for disappointment. Or maybe not. I dunno. Some of you will prolly still be playing this game when it decides to fuck you out of all of your money, and still have you smiling about it. God help whoever that's gonna be. LOL! its not going to be me EA/Bioware are going to have to work hard to regain my trust.
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Post by biggydx on Dec 7, 2020 21:36:32 GMT
Dragon Age 4 is going to be complete shit. I'm still amazed at how fuckin quick you turned around on the series with just one detail. Lenny is probably looking at this shit like, "Yes, come join the Dark Side" lol
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 7, 2020 21:43:35 GMT
Dragon Age 4 is going to be complete shit. I'm still amazed at how fuckin quick you turned around on the series with just one detail. Lenny is probably looking at this shit like, "Yes, come join the Dark Side" lol Lenny?
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Post by biggydx on Dec 7, 2020 22:23:15 GMT
I'm still amazed at how fuckin quick you turned around on the series with just one detail. Lenny is probably looking at this shit like, "Yes, come join the Dark Side" lol Lenny? I'm using a shortened form of his name (lennybusker). He's not as common here during downtimes, but he tends to be a pretty big pessimist when it comes to BioWare and their games. When Anthem launched, I remember there was a newcomer to the blog who had optimistic hopes about the game, and when his world came crashing down and he became significantly more jaded, Lenny was there to give him the ol' "Dutch, you son of a bitch" manly handshake meme from the Predator lol. Your sudden turn is reminding me a lot of that dynamic.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2020 8:31:16 GMT
I'm using a shortened form of his name (lennybusker). He's not as common here during downtimes, but he tends to be a pretty big pessimist when it comes to BioWare and their games. When Anthem launched, I remember there was a newcomer to the blog who had optimistic hopes about the game, and when his world came crashing down and he became significantly more jaded, Lenny was there to give him the ol' "Dutch, you son of a bitch" manly handshake meme from the Predator lol. Your sudden turn is reminding me a lot of that dynamic. Ah, I see. I don't recall ever interacting with them so that explains why I was confused. That said, I wouldn't say my turn is just because of one thing. For starters there is also all the implications from that thing. And I mean I've loved past Bioware games but they've had things I certainly don't like too. So it's more just tipping the scales rather than an abrupt about face.
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Post by Dazzle on Dec 20, 2020 2:04:13 GMT
Mostly I just worry about the hair and eyebrows, lol. I trust them on most aspects, but fashion and style is just not their strong suit. Thank god for mods, lol.
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Post by fairdragon on Jan 3, 2021 10:19:25 GMT
- I am worry about choices over games. I am afraid that my choice from the other games have non or only little influence on the game, like in DAI. - and i am worry about the map size and open world. I want DAOs size back no open world. - also worry about the end of DLC Trespasser "new people" "Solas organization" So no DA2 or DAI recurring characters, please. We need something unexpected, So that we can say oh yes solas overlooks us. But i am afraid that will not come.
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Post by fairdragon on Jan 3, 2021 10:24:08 GMT
I want to have more choices (and consequences), compared to DAI, or even DA2. Being railroaded in one isn’t really something I find appealing. Look the behind the scene trailer. it's pretty much in the end.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 3, 2021 10:34:52 GMT
- also worry about the end of DLC Trespasser "new people" "Solas organization" So no DA2 or DAI recurring characters, please. We need something unexpected, So that we can say oh yes solas overlooks us. But i am afraid that will not come. So you want the story and game to lose all unique potential it had and suck?
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Post by fairdragon on Jan 3, 2021 10:39:52 GMT
That's a very bold assumption. I mean you can state your own opinion on the issue but really I can't wait to romble with him. He's the DA version of Kai Leng. If he is that ten i am disappointed. That is a thing to worry, but for me he is more complex. I hate to talk to him and doesn't romance him in game, but he is like a onion behind each layer there is a new one. So i worry what they do with him.
I don't see him as antagonist of the next game. We have to deel with him and then help him to clean up his mess like in DAI (the story is more DA2, hopfuly better work out). And the real antagonist jump up in the end.
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Post by fairdragon on Jan 3, 2021 10:54:44 GMT
Kai Leng is the worst part of ME3. I don't follow the comics, and I never played ME1, so I was so confused about why some no name asian dude was blocking me from doing the thing I actually came there for. I had no investment in that stupid fight or any idea of who he was. that is the reason, why we don't get any comic book character. maybe one from tevinter night. I am worry that the comics are the way to say what fenris is doing to let him return in DA4. Is it before the 2rd act it would break the a person we don't know role.
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