KOTOR Knights of the Old Republic (2003)

You know if it wasn’t for kotor I don’t think I would be a Star Wars fan. Cause I find the movie meh. But kotor is God’s gift

Just reinstalled KOTOR and will eventually get KOTOR2 going. (Both are re-purchases on Steam because I no longer have a disc drive.) Can't wait to get into it but I'm smack in the middle of an ME trilogy run.

My all time favorite game will always be Shadows of Amn, but KOTOR is a close second.
Being old enough to have seen the original Star Wars trilogy in theaters on its first release, I had a bad taste in my mouth
after the prequel trilogy, and even after the rather anticlimactic ending of Jedi.

KOTOR really opened my eyes and took me back to 1977, reminding me just how much FUN Star Wars could be if done right.
On my first play through I did every quest and every planet twice. Not because I'm a gaming fanatic, but because I was having
so much fun that I didn't want to miss anything.

The best way I've seen KOTOR descibed is:
"An interactive Star Wars movie"

I agree, and it's the most succinct way of putting it in my opinion.

I absolutely NEVER saw the twist coming, and looking back at all the dialogue it is simply superb.

Yeah, I recently stated replaying after so many years, and it's amazing how many hints there were as to what happened to Revan after Malak betrayed him.  Like in the beginning Carth says something like "I heard some grim stories about the dangers of the force."  "They say it can wipe your entire memory and make you forget who you are."  Also when Vrook says."Are you sure Revan is truly gone?"  "What if we were to train this one and the Dark Lord returns?" and then Vandar tells him basically to change the subject.

Was looking to buy a new game the other day on xbox but while browsing i noticed this on BC so bought 1 & 2

First PT i went Soldier/Guardian an i think if i went anything else i'd a not completed it i've grown to used to modern games an outside the story i'd forgot nigh everything about this so it was ultimately a lesson in frustration initially playing it, especially when it seems autosave is bugged an i lost items to it.

Never did a 100% pt as i decided just to use the char to familiarize myself with the game, so i had zero persuade an missed alot of exttra dialogue intentionally



Anyhow started a scout an probably going to make him a sentinel an go full LS


Gotto admit spending just under £20 to replay these 2 the best buy i did recently an i look forward to diving into 2 when done with 1, be interesting as i dont have access to restoration mod for that an if i remember right it makes a difference, so see when i play though tbh i cant remember much so hopefully i don't get hungover wanting it

Yeah, I saw a video showing Taris a when they first started working on the remake, and it looked great. As for the members of Reddit. That is the sad truth about the internet. There are many immature people online who think their are critics who know what their talking about. I never attempted to make a game, but I have worked on several modding projects, and know how much dedication it takes.

In think that there's a lot of Star wars fans in general who have become horrible entitled and insufferable, and the same could also apply for a few gamers out there. I've met lots and lots of fantastic, open minded fans over the years but also have encountered some who seem to have fallen to the dark side. The disgusting attacks upon Kelly Marie Tran from these types of people is a case to point.

But I digress.

I'm replaying KotOR right now, and I have to say that for all that I adore this game I've realised that there's one section in particular that seems to be quite shockingly punishing to new or inexperienced players. I'm not sure whether or not this is a good thing.

You may recall the final confrontation with Davik and Calo Nord. Players familiar with the game will know that the easiest way to beat this encounter is simply to have all three party members spam grenades at Calo, which effectively trivialises the encounter. But new players are far likely to attempt to attack both Davik and Calo in a more conventional manner, and almost certainly get their asses well and truly handed to them. They'll likely repeat this encounter several times (as I did on my first playthrough) getting increasingly frustrated with each party wipe, and increasingly fed up with watching the unskippable cut scene.

..... Eventually they'll win, either through blind luck, or from figuring out the 'method'; race to the Ebon Hawke..... only to be immediately confronted with a bunch more unskippable cut scenes... followed by the dreaded turret battle with no chance to save before starting it.

The turret battle requires an entirely different set of gaming skills that new players would not have had a chance to develop, relying mostly upon coordination, speed and reflexes. They'll likely be far too 'panicked' to notice the radar, and just end up firing blindly into space in the hope of taking down these fast, darting, swooping hard-to-spot fighters. Eventually they'll fail. God help them if they failed to save the game after defeating Calo and Davik! (which is quite easy because the falling debris, naturally lends a sense of urgency, and desire to enter the Hawke ASAP and saving in such a 'hazardous' area might seem like a bad idea) They'll have to do the whole lot all over again. Even if they saved, they'll still have to watch those cut scenes once again.

Imagine if modern titles used similar mechanics? Such consummate lack of hand-holding?

It's instructive though, and it helps develop a range of skill sets you're going to need later in the game, which is why I'm not entirely sure it's a bad thing.

Just rambling here.

I too own the retail versions, Steam versions, and GoG versions of both games.  Why?  My PC came with no CD/DVD drive so I bought both games on Steam.  Couldn't get games to work on Windows 10 with Steam.  So I bought it on GoG.  Works flawlessly.  My only complaint no widescreen for modern PC's.  The steam version of K2 came with anew patch that offered widescreen.  But alas the Steam version does not work for me.  Anywho I enjoy the GoG versions.

I have seen the Apeiron's model of Bastila Shan... christ I got the same goosebumps that I had when I played the game for the first time back in the day.

KOTOR is the only reason i'm a Star Wars fan, to be honest.

Apeiron is still alive... A picture showing some of the GUI was shown... Though I'm not sure whether that was just a pic or a screenshot taken out of whatever is done of the game.

Fingers crossed, right.

Well, this took me a while.

A year, nine months and one scrapped playthrough.

And for the record, it was totally worth it.