Mass Effect Legendary Edition (General Discussion)

I am pretty sure we are going to hear a lot of these two things. "They didn't change enough" and "they changed too much" and that is what can go wrong with a remaster because people won't pay attention to what BioWare is saying about what they are doing and develop expectations of three brand new games that look like Mass Effect.

Agreed.  The way I see Mac Walters job on Andromeda close to being on track and finishing it up for shipping in as short of time as possible while cleaning up the mistakes of old management.

Well, I did say that a remaster is a bad idea.


I don't mind the open world, but I think the "open" world people had in mind where the uncharted worlds we explored in ME1, which we didn't get. I think the implementation of it in Andromeda was wrong and the encounter design in that open world was bad. But it's not like they had the time to fix it up, in any way.

I think open worlds only really work in sand box style games. Skyrim has maybe a shallow story line. But the game itself is really deep. Like you can play it hundreds of hours and keep discovering things and how they interact. I mean people seem to like the ubisoft style to some degree, but that never worked for me.

I disagree, the mods help push it past the x hundreds of hours I put in but there is so much to the base game I am still finding things there. And given how many play it for hundreds and hundreds of hours without any mods I suspect most never found it boring.

Without mods I quit after 20 hours.

The thing about mods is that they can help prop up a game in the present but if a game or studio becomes too reliant on mods it may help facilitate the exit of the playerbase once competition springs up. It encourages studios to not address problems "because of mods", or update their for example UI because of mods, or even flesh out parts of the game "because of mods", and then you load up the game and find out you have to update 20 mods before you enter and it just becomes a hassle #NotBitter

The main thing I liked about the barren planets in ME1 is that they were realistic. Most planets that you are going to land on in real life are going to be barren. To me, it made the game immersive. Sure. It gets tedious after a while to simply go to some small rocks to get some minerals on planets that look the same as the next one. But the basic concept was fine to me.
More importantly, it's exactly because most of these planets are empty, that meeting a Thresher Maw for the first time was so scary. You don't expect anything on those planets to attack you, except maybe some stray geth or mercenaries or whatever.

Yes, the vehicle handling could have been better. Yes, the planets were too much alike. Yes, all the bases that were there all looked the same.
But those were all technological limitations, because they were forced to comply with the 6.8GB game size and couldn't use the hard drive on the Xbox.


Unfortunately, the whole concept was thrown away rather than improved. They could have done a lot more with changing weather for example...
Imagine if your time was actually limited on certain planets because the vehicle couldn't handle the conditions indefinitely.
Imagine if you actually had a vehicle that could fly, handle most terrains, but also traverse on liquids and under liquids.
Suddenly, the barren planets can become gas giants with huge storms, fully rocky, fully liquid, sandy so you can dig, or a mix of all. And you could have different liquids like in Andromeda, where the vehicle behaves differently. And you could have different forms of life similar to a thresher maw, but for those different conditions.

There is so much potential there...

But because they decided to turn Mass Effect into another Gears of War, a lot of the actual potential that was set up by the original Mass Effect was lost.

Thanks. I'll set a reminder to try these

Like why didn't Vega land the shuttle next to the door on Mars instead of where he did?