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Post by ahglock on Nov 7, 2020 18:07:52 GMT
Like I said its a galaxy there will always be stories. Its unusual for any story to wrap up every potential hook even stand alone novels. It is part of the world building to make the place seem more real and alive. Big difference between potential hooks that could be told with other characters (Quarian Ark for example) and things directly tied to a character that the game stresses will be a big deal (Mysterious Benefactor for example).
The only thing really tied to him is his mom. The benefactor is only tied to him in the sense he is the only one currently aware of it that we know of. Anyone could followup on that, heck a story could be told from the benefactors point of view or one of their agents. And some things are just better left a mystery, like wolverine. His history was better as a mystery.
Edit to add and I'm not sure that optional content that people could easily miss can be said to be pushed as a big deal/.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2020 18:09:17 GMT
The only tidbit I've heard about where they might go in the next game was in this video from Liana (Game Informer).
She had spoken to Mike Gamble some time back and said they were at least toying with the idea of returning to Shepard's timeline for the next major ME release. Not Shepard himself, but something set during that time.
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Post by ahglock on Nov 7, 2020 18:11:07 GMT
The only tidbit I've heard about where they might go in the next game was in this video from Liana (Game Informer). She had spoken to Mike Gamble some time back and said they were at least toying with the idea of returning to Shepard's timeline for the next major ME release. Not Shepard himself, but something set during that time. Interesting, but for those bothered by this or excited by this I'd stress that they are at the very beginning of makig this game. They can go anywhere form this point on.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 7, 2020 18:13:04 GMT
The only tidbit I've heard about where they might go in the next game was in this video from Liana (Game Informer). She had spoken to Mike Gamble some time back and said they were at least toying with the idea of returning to Shepard's timeline for the next major ME release. Not Shepard himself, but something set during that time. That either means prequel, small scale sidequel, or a canon ending. None of which are good.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2020 18:15:25 GMT
The only tidbit I've heard about where they might go in the next game was in this video from Liana (Game Informer). She had spoken to Mike Gamble some time back and said they were at least toying with the idea of returning to Shepard's timeline for the next major ME release. Not Shepard himself, but something set during that time. That either means prequel, small scale sidequel, or a canon ending. None of which are good. It sounded more like a sidequel as it'd be set during Shepard's time. But again, all we know is that it was an idea they were toying with.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 7, 2020 18:17:16 GMT
High Res version of the Mud Skipper The Mudskipper looks very utilitarian and has turrets on the top, so it gives a military/industrial vibe. Not sleek like the Normandy or Tempest, so it's probably not built for speed or stealth, but to trundle around and do labor-type jobs. It can defend itself, but it isn't a warship. It looks too clean and not personalized enough to be the ship of pirates or independent mercenaries (Serenity-style). If anything it looks like it would be owned by a mining corporation or a military organization. The large thrusters seem to indicate it is used to carrying heavy loads. Equipment, maybe. The flat feet and name (and location) suggest it's built specifically for landing on mud flats, which seems odd for a starship that could be called on to land anywhere. Perhaps it only works on one or a few local planets with similar terrain? Mud flats aren't usually associated with mining, either. Not sure what the crew is excited to get out and look at here.
Now that I look again, it doesn't have corporate logos, so I'm leaning more military but maybe an engineering unit and not front line fighters. The hook hands (maybe tools?) on the guy on the left would also indicate this is more of an industrial/engineering crew and not combatants. None of them have obvious weapons strapped to their backs or sides and they don't seem to be wearing armor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 18:18:23 GMT
Like others, I think the figure next to the Salarian is a Drell … from the Quarian Ark, perhaps? So maybe not a prequel to the MET nor a follow-on in the MW. While certainly possible to explain away, given the damage the Reapers did to the galactic civilizations in ME3, I'd expect the Drell to be extinct everywhere but Andromeda. Research into finding a cure for the Drell would take a backseat to larger, more viable species surviving.
For MEA2, a utility ship would make sense, for supporting various colonies across the Heleus cluster. The turrets would be a nod to the mistake the AI made in thinking self defense would somehow not be necessary in Andromeda (the mistake the AI made, intentionally written into the storyline of MEA … a nod toward reality crashing harshly into idealistic expectations and not "lazy devs/stupid writers"). As someone said, it looks too finished to be a smuggler vehicle, so something new from the AI, purpose-built to better support the colonies in the cluster.
If a direct sequel to MEA, then Ryder would start out experience-wise where Shepard did in ME1 … again, intentional (which somehow seems to be forgotten in the complaints about Ryder). So no longer the newby/ingénue, but a seasoned veteran. It would be a nice nod to the MET, if the conversation that began ME1 was somewhat recreated by the AI leadership, when reports of a new threat is discovered in the cluster, better call on that hero pathfinder Ryder … who's currently off exploring for new golden worlds in the cluster.
I find it humorous … comments in the past months that if BioWare announces nothing on N7 day, the ME franchise is dead, then BioWare confirms the next chapter in ME is underway (albeit in early stages) and the response is … of course, nothing that they haven't already said. On the bright side, my eye muscles stay in great shape with all the eye rolls I have to perform, reading the troll-tastic comments of my intellectual betters.
EDI reminds me to tell you, "that was a joke sarcasm."
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Post by ahglock on Nov 7, 2020 18:21:34 GMT
That either means prequel, small scale sidequel, or a canon ending. None of which are good. It sounded more like a sidequel as it'd be set during Shepard's time. But again, all we know is that it was an idea they were toying with. I'd be perfectly fine with that. I've think I've said it before but I'd be totally down for something as different as a PI on omega plot line. I'd rather a side group work on it though.
My only issue with the main team doing a sidequel is they are not resolving the core situation, either you need to move on from ME3 with a canon ending or big enough time jump its irrelevant, or you got to accept that Andromeda is where you went. Make up your damn mind and write your stories for it.
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Post by ClarkKent on Nov 7, 2020 18:23:27 GMT
A prequel would be amazing. I hope they go that route.
That said, it's going to be years until we hear any details so I guess we can look forward to having the same circular discussions for a while yet.
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Post by ahglock on Nov 7, 2020 18:25:29 GMT
The Mudskipper looks very utilitarian and has turrets on the top, so it gives a military/industrial vibe. Not sleek like the Normandy or Tempest, so it's probably not built for speed or stealth, but to trundle around and do labor-type jobs. It can defend itself, but it isn't a warship. It looks too clean and not personalized enough to be the ship of pirates or independent mercenaries (Serenity-style). If anything it looks like it would be owned by a mining corporation or a military organization. The large thrusters seem to indicate it is used to carrying heavy loads. Equipment, maybe. The flat feet and name (and location) suggest it's built specifically for landing on mud flats, which seems odd for a starship that could be called on to land anywhere. Perhaps it only works on one or a few local planets with similar terrain? Mud flats aren't usually associated with mining, either. Not sure what the crew is excited to get out and look at here.
Now that I look again, it doesn't have corporate logos, so I'm leaning more military but maybe an engineering unit and not front line fighters. The hook hands (maybe tools?) on the guy on the left would also indicate this is more of an industrial/engineering crew and not combatants. None of them have obvious weapons strapped to their backs or sides and they don't seem to be wearing armor.
The name might just be because planets are just mud balls. Its interplanetary ship so its a mud skipper.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 7, 2020 18:26:09 GMT
It sounded more like a sidequel as it'd be set during Shepard's time. But again, all we know is that it was an idea they were toying with. I'd be perfectly fine with that. I've think I've said it before but I'd be totally down for something as different as a PI on omega plot line. I'd rather a side group work on it though.
My only issue with the main team doing a sidequel is they are not resolving the core situation, either you need to move on from ME3 with a canon ending or big enough time jump its irrelevant, or you got to accept that Andromeda is where you went. Make up your damn mind and write your stories for it.
I agree with the last bit. I don’t see a side story working well. First, wow how insignificant are those characters that they aren’t ever even mentioned in the other games (at least Andromeda goes to a different galaxy which excuses it) and it will just stir up the endings emotions again because now there are more characters involved in that. I don’t think they should go with a canon ending (though there are still other huge issues besides the ending like certain races existing or not) or continue with Andromeda.
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Post by ClarkKent on Nov 7, 2020 18:26:20 GMT
I find it humorous … comments in the past months that if BioWare announces nothing on N7 day, the ME franchise is dead, then BioWare confirms the next chapter in ME is underway (albeit in early stages) and the response is … of course, nothing that they haven't already said. On the bright side, my eye muscles stay in great shape with all the eye rolls I have to perform, reading the troll-tastic comments of my intellectual betters.
EDI reminds me to tell you, "that was a joke sarcasm." The constant 'concern' is a little tiring it's true.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Nov 7, 2020 18:35:48 GMT
Like others, I think the figure next to the Salarian is a Drell … from the Quarian Ark, perhaps? So maybe not a prequel to the MET nor a follow-on in the MW. While certainly possible to explain away, given the damage the Reapers did to the galactic civilizations in ME3, I'd expect the Drell to be extinct everywhere but Andromeda. Research into finding a cure for the Drell would take a backseat to larger, more viable species surviving.
For MEA2, a utility ship would make sense, for supporting various colonies across the Heleus cluster. The turrets would be a nod to the mistake the AI made in thinking self defense would somehow not be necessary in Andromeda (the mistake the AI made, intentionally written into the storyline of MEA … a nod toward reality crashing harshly into idealistic expectations and not "lazy devs/stupid writers"). As someone said, it looks too finished to be a smuggler vehicle, so something new from the AI, purpose-built to better support the colonies in the cluster.
If a direct sequel to MEA, then Ryder would start out experience-wise where Shepard did in ME1 … again, intentional (which somehow seems to be forgotten in the complaints about Ryder). So no longer the newby/ingénue, but a seasoned veteran. It would be a nice nod to the MET, if the conversation that began ME1 was somewhat recreated by the AI leadership, when reports of a new threat is discovered in the cluster, better call on that hero pathfinder Ryder … who's currently off exploring for new golden worlds in the cluster.
I find it humorous … comments in the past months that if BioWare announces nothing on N7 day, the ME franchise is dead, then BioWare confirms the next chapter in ME is underway (albeit in early stages) and the response is … of course, nothing that they haven't already said. On the bright side, my eye muscles stay in great shape with all the eye rolls I have to perform, reading the troll-tastic comments of my intellectual betters. You have spoken (the words of truth) and I'm excited. Dang.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 7, 2020 18:36:03 GMT
I find it humorous … comments in the past months that if BioWare announces nothing on N7 day, the ME franchise is dead, then BioWare confirms the next chapter in ME is underway (albeit in early stages) and the response is … of course, nothing that they haven't already said. On the bright side, my eye muscles stay in great shape with all the eye rolls I have to perform, reading the troll-tastic comments of my intellectual betters.
EDI reminds me to tell you, "that was a joke sarcasm." The constant 'concern' is a little tiring it's true. Wait... People were concerned about Hentai Generator 1,2,3 and 4? 😆
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Post by ahglock on Nov 7, 2020 18:43:21 GMT
I'd be perfectly fine with that. I've think I've said it before but I'd be totally down for something as different as a PI on omega plot line. I'd rather a side group work on it though.
My only issue with the main team doing a sidequel is they are not resolving the core situation, either you need to move on from ME3 with a canon ending or big enough time jump its irrelevant, or you got to accept that Andromeda is where you went. Make up your damn mind and write your stories for it.
I agree with the last bit. I don’t see a side story working well. First, wow how insignificant are those characters that they aren’t ever even mentioned in the other games (at least Andromeda goes to a different galaxy which excuses it) and it will just stir up the endings emotions again because now there are more characters involved in that. I don’t think they should go with a canon ending (though there are still other huge issues besides the ending like certain races existing or not) or continue with Andromeda. It's a galaxy there will be tons of significant people who are never encountered or heard of by the player in previous games. Also, I don't think my character has to be significant for me to have fun. Andromeda actually made less sense in that regard unless it was a secret. Like I never may have heard of the pirate crew dillhole but I'd for sure hear about someone creating star ship drives that don't need to discharge and can fly to another galaxy and they built multiple arcs including one ship comparable in size to the citadel.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 7, 2020 18:47:23 GMT
I agree with the last bit. I don’t see a side story working well. First, wow how insignificant are those characters that they aren’t ever even mentioned in the other games (at least Andromeda goes to a different galaxy which excuses it) and it will just stir up the endings emotions again because now there are more characters involved in that. I don’t think they should go with a canon ending (though there are still other huge issues besides the ending like certain races existing or not) or continue with Andromeda. It's a galaxy there will be tons of significant people who are never encountered or heard of by the player in previous games. Also, I don't think my character has to be significant for me to have fun. Andromeda actually made less sense in that regard unless it was a secret. Like I never may have heard of the pirate crew dillhole but I'd for sure hear about someone creating star ship drives that don't need to discharge and can fly to another galaxy and they built multiple arcs including one ship comparable in size to the citadel. Yeah, it'd very difficult to hide something that big from the public eye. Not to mention that those arks were docked at the home systems.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 7, 2020 18:49:14 GMT
The only tidbit I've heard about where they might go in the next game was in this video from Liana (Game Informer). She had spoken to Mike Gamble some time back and said they were at least toying with the idea of returning to Shepard's timeline for the next major ME release. Not Shepard himself, but something set during that time. Interesting, but for those bothered by this or excited by this I'd stress that they are at the very beginning of makig this game. They can go anywhere form this point on. Depending on how well the remaster does, it might give Bioware a direction to go with the new game.
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Post by N7eezo on Nov 7, 2020 18:49:58 GMT
So upon checking the Hi-Res pic, it looks like it's Mordin/Thane from the character selection screen, but flipped.
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Post by ClarkKent on Nov 7, 2020 18:55:22 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemikeDreaming of the future.... I'm definitely seeing the Angara in the middle... Guy on the left looks dummy thic.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 7, 2020 18:56:48 GMT
That either means prequel, small scale sidequel, or a canon ending. None of which are good. Every single one of these have potential to be good, but let's be real, they probably won't be. It sounded more like a sidequel as it'd be set during Shepard's time. Nobody cares what some second rate soldier is doing during Shepard's time. They're dead by the end of ME3, either way. It's as marketable as a TV show GoT prequel. Like others, I think the figure next to the Salarian is a Drell … from the Quarian Ark, perhaps? Tuxedo wearing Drell on an away mission? It's not any Drell. That's Thane. That's Thane, hands down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 19:00:28 GMT
*snicker* Welp, it's going to be a fun four years.
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Post by Rascoth on Nov 7, 2020 19:01:35 GMT
*snicker* Welp, it's going to be a fun four years. Yep.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 7, 2020 19:01:41 GMT
Since a couple mentioned it, I do hope that in the remaster they add a news story about the Andromeda Initiative since that was public knowledge.
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Post by natetrace on Nov 7, 2020 19:03:40 GMT
Looks like I see an Angaran in that picture. Concept art sometimes can show you direction and sometimes not but my guess for now in 2020 is that the next game will bridge the gap between the Milky Way and andromeda galaxies. Anagra in the Milky Way perhaps. New races. Maybe the next game starts out during me2 but actually takes place hundreds of years later. Who knows.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2020 19:03:59 GMT
It sounded more like a sidequel as it'd be set during Shepard's time. But again, all we know is that it was an idea they were toying with. I'd be perfectly fine with that. I've think I've said it before but I'd be totally down for something as different as a PI on omega plot line. I'd rather a side group work on it though.
My only issue with the main team doing a sidequel is they are not resolving the core situation, either you need to move on from ME3 with a canon ending or big enough time jump its irrelevant, or you got to accept that Andromeda is where you went. Make up your damn mind and write your stories for it.
The galaxy's a big place, they could Mandalorian/Rogue One this thing. They don't need to advance the timeline beyond the end of ME3, they can work within it.
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