The Dragon Age 4 chapter in BioWare S&S 25 Years Book

Actually I think the memory doesn't actually mention the race of the workers, so it is entirely possible they were dwarves. I just get the sense that they wouldn't be using elves for manual labour like this but more magical enterprises like the one creating the Grand Sonallium. I know that doesn't exonerate him of wrong doing. If anything it is the opposite since it would seem the Evanuris invaded the domain of the titans which fought back and then the dwarves were enslaved by the elves after their defeat. It would explain making these workers carve a giant statue of Elgar'nan from the rock (earth) to celebrate his victory and those being used to do this being the former "children" of their foe. After all even Mythal's followers, who made the ancient writing we find in her Temple, regarded them as "workers, scurrying witless, soul-less", presumably because they had no connection with the Fade.



We don't know that. Solas just condemned them all. Considering he had already rebelled against their rule and was actively fighting them, I doubt he bothered making a proper enquiry into the affair, just condemned them all out of hand. If all the gods were responsible, why were they still honoured in Mythal's Temple? Andruil and Falon'Din were still acknowledged even though apparently they had been involved in some major conflict with Mythal, although it was Solas who did the character assassination on Falon'Din.



Since a parallel was drawn with the Magisters of Tevinter by Dorian, I'll use that example here. We know there are plenty of Magisters who are not very nice people but equally there are those, like Dorian, Maevaris and the other Lucerni who aren't so bad. Dorian has now freed his slaves and trying to convert by example. Now would you condemn them all out of hand just because of the bad ones?

Likewise, in southern Thedas, there are plenty of nobles who abuse their power, particularly the Chevaliers, but would you condemn all nobility because of this? Perhaps we should narrow it down to just heads of state. I'd say that none of them are perfect but who is? However, just because the Empress/Emperor of Orlais is ruled by the Game and as a result has little respect for the life of commoners that get in their way, would you condemn King Alistair or Viscount Varric because you want to totally change the political scene in Thedas as they are all part of the corrupt system?



This may be true but we don't know that. Stopping a war by locking away both sides because they refused to call a truce could be seen as a laudable act because it brought about peace. However, I'm just suspicious of taking the word of Solas at face value that they all deserved it. After all, what if some of the other gods, say Sylaise and June, were actually trying to stop the conflict and Mythal prevented their efforts? So let's at least get the story about these gods from someone other than Solas before we condemn them out of hand.

Interesting, thank you for that tidbit I enjoy the history's of ancient civilizations   

Or are they? Basing fictional organizations on real life things often has significance.

If the Sicarri are the ones I'm thinking of, I don't know how much they will base it off them, saying they opposed Rome is kinda understating it, they killed their own leaders (High priests/ rabbis) who were trying to negotiate with Rome when the rebellion went badly and there wasn't much chance to win, they refused to treat with Rome even when Jerusalem was being seiged and a lot of people were dying and when they had pretty much lost they tried to get Rome to let them go away and wander the desert, when Rome refused, and Jerusalem was destroyed , I think they killed their families and then themselves rather than submit to Rome. They very much were a religious group, and from what we know about the Tevinter Sicarri, they don't really sound the same? At least I think I'm thinking of the same Sicarri group for the fall of Jerusalem, it's been a while since I learnt about it.

That is kind of where I was going with it, but in an all of Tevinter sort of sense. Granted hopefully they will give us the role playing options to have a wide variety of different character perspectives on this but...espionage agent via family being held hostage, while effective, would also be teneous. And given how much reform/ redemption could be a part of the next game mayyybbee I could see if we get to play as a Sicari that we can play as one or part of a group that is trying to use their power to subtly influence Tevinter into a postive direction.




That's what I get for not reading the codex.

Looking at this image again and its similarity with statues of the elven gods and also the creature in the Deep Roads in WoT, if this was the original concept art for the Arch-demon it does suggest a connection with them, which has been maintained in their ability to shapeshift into dragon form and the fact that the Evanuris insisted that only the gods and their chosen were permitted to do so. It also confirms in my mind that the "First of my People" that Solas refers to were never truly elves in the sense that the modern elves are but they may have adopted that form when dealing with their subjects. Their ability to shapeshift came from their origins as spirits that have the power to alter their appearance to suit their purpose. Their warning against Fen'Harel says he has many forms, so may be he could be something other than a simple elf or the Dread Wolf if he wished. Also we have seen Flemeth/Mythal in four different aspects: old lady, Asha-Bellanar, dragon and water spirit (ToM).

This being the case, it is entirely possible that Ghilan'nain could be both the horned white lady when dealing with the elves and the big scary sea monster when wanting to demonstrate her power. The same is true of the other Evanuris.

Whilst a believe the code entry said "Flemeth nude", that would make no sense as, so far as I am aware, she would never have been there. So I think the water spirit was a fragment of Mythal, possibly even recalling her original form. As Dalish legend says she was born from the sea of tears of the earth, it seems likely she originated as a water spirit. Elemental spirits were likely the oldest type of spirit. The Lady of the Forest was one of these as she says Zathrian called her out of the land rather than the Fade.

Why would Anders blow up Skyhold?  In any case that person in the foreground is female, with a weird hairstyle.   An early concept of Calpernia perhaps?  Or Solas in one of his guises?