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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 24, 2022 11:27:29 GMT
Maybe the ram is pumping so much voltage to allow it to reach CL 16?  If so I better go back to my Teamgroup choice...  Both G.Skill and Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3600 kits that I use are CL16 as well. The Crucial kit has much tighter timings as well (16-18-18-38). It's too bad that Crucial has discontinued all Ballistix lineup, and none of these would work well with the NH-D15 anyway. You can always raise the first fan on the NH-D15 to make the RAM fit underneath, but you also need to make sure your PC case has enough room and that fan isn't sticking out too much. Otherwise you won't be able to close the side panel. It is very saddening about Ballisitx ram line. Crucial ain't so crucial anymore since they did that in my opinion. The Team Group is actually CL 18 so... To go from 16-19-19-39 to 16-18-18-38 -should be easy to do manually -maybe its left loose to allow for the range to be pulled tighter: www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/catalog/memory/redline/item/1754-mrc4u360gkkp32gx2? Yeah the D15 comes with a 140 mm fan but I can always get one of those 120mm Icebergs and that will more than make up for loss of the bigger fan: 
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 26, 2022 3:44:01 GMT
Maybe the ram is pumping so much voltage to allow it to reach CL 16? If so I better go back to my Teamgroup choice... Both G.Skill and Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3600 kits that I use are CL16 as well. The Crucial kit has much tighter timings as well (16-18-18-38). It's too bad that Crucial has discontinued all Ballistix lineup, and none of these would work well with the NH-D15 anyway. You can always raise the first fan on the NH-D15 to make the RAM fit underneath, but you also need to make sure your PC case has enough room and that fan isn't sticking out too much. Otherwise you won't be able to close the side panel. Also I have been doing some research and it seems I may know why certain memory maybe running at different voltages. It certainly isn't RGB related -since the ones I linked didn't have it and were running 1.4 volts. I believe its the type of chips the DDR4 is using -specifically Samsung B-die or Hynix and all others. The chips that are using Samsung B-die are the ones that seem to be running at 1.35v. Hynix and all other chips and the like looks like they are running at 1.4v. Just further proof that Samsung B-die is more power efficient. I'm probably wrong about all of this though... I should probably avoid 1.4 if it is true... since... I am all about the efficiency.
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 28, 2022 9:18:25 GMT
Mushkin used to be one of the top memory manufacturers and a favorite of PC enthusiasts back in the Pentium 3/4 days. They must have focused on the US/NA market; I don't recall hearing about them at all. Although, at the time I was employed by a big brand company and worked mostly with OEM products. I did OC very early on though. require 1.4v to run and that seems a bit high Agreed. |
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 28, 2022 9:44:23 GMT
In the Samsung vs. Hynix matter I'm firmly in the Samsung camp: They have proven themselves over the years and seem to overclock better. Although I remember you are not keen on OCing. Samsung B-die is more power efficient It depends on what you mean by power efficient. B-dies can run on lower voltage while keeping tighter latencies than Hynix. This is no mean feat. BTW, you can check who uses B-dies in here: B-die finder |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 29, 2022 1:56:51 GMT
Mushkin used to be one of the top memory manufacturers and a favorite of PC enthusiasts back in the Pentium 3/4 days. They must have focused on the US/NA market; I don't recall hearing about them at all. Although, at the time I was employed by a big brand company and worked mostly with OEM products. I did OC very early on though. require 1.4v to run and that seems a bit high Agreed. I believe they are Texas based after some research. Still to be so little known they must really ventured away from the area they were known for. I second that.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 29, 2022 1:57:05 GMT
In the Samsung vs. Hynix matter I'm firmly in the Samsung camp: They have proven themselves over the years and seem to overclock better. Although I remember you are not keen on OCing. Samsung B-die is more power efficient It depends on what you mean by power efficient. B-dies can run on lower voltage while keeping tighter latencies than Hynix. This is no mean feat. BTW, you can check who uses B-dies in here: B-die finderI looked into the B-Die finder and they don't even list the Mushkin ram. So... kind of supports my above theory. And yes your right I don't like to OC but I like that head room. Since it will give to the longevity of the chips -let me extrapolate: A chip that is binned say for 3600 Mhz but only ever run at 2400 may last a good deal longer. While a chip that is spec'ed for 3600 being run at 3600 life may be somewhat shorter. That reasoning is probably flawed and down right wrong -right? If not -I think I need to reevaluate my plan on ram here...
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 29, 2022 13:07:44 GMT
That reasoning is probably flawed and down right wrong -right? No, that's a solid one, as theories go. I wouldn't underclock RAM though; that's just going to slow down your Ryzen considerably. And you get less bang for buck. |
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Post by bmwcrazy on Jun 29, 2022 16:02:06 GMT
There is a reason why RAM come with lifetime warranty. They rarely break even when you use XMP/DOCP/EOCP settings.
As for Samsung B-die, they are great for overclocking while maintaining low memory latency. However, they are also very temperature sensitive. So just keep that in mind if you still want to go through the trouble to find them, and pay extra money for them.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 1, 2022 4:08:01 GMT
That reasoning is probably flawed and down right wrong -right? No, that's a solid one, as theories go. I wouldn't underclock RAM though; that's just going to slow down your Ryzen considerably. And you get less bang for buck. There I agree. I would usually let it run at default... But not this time. This time I will run 2/3 the speed of the ram keep some in the tank. And if I am going for 3600Mhz that should tell you the ram I am looking at now...
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 1, 2022 4:12:47 GMT
There is a reason why RAM come with lifetime warranty. They rarely break even when you use XMP/DOCP/EOCP settings. As for Samsung B-die, they are great for overclocking while maintaining low memory latency. However, they are also very temperature sensitive. So just keep that in mind if you still want to go through the trouble to find them, and pay extra money for them. Meaning if they get a cooking then errors get a popping? Samsung B-Die was where I was going to go... HOWEVER I found out that this system -the six year old one that still uses Kingston DDR3 is on Hynix chips. And I may be lucky but have never had any sort of memory errors with it... except... once... Well actually it turned out to be a SSHD hard drive that seemed to want to be a ram stick.
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Post by mousestalker on Jul 1, 2022 21:19:46 GMT
Here's a quest ion for the hivemind.
If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 22:21:18 GMT
Here's a question for the hivemind. If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from? An example:
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+5]
CARE2: CPU Thermal Compound - Cooler Master MASTERGEL High Performance Thermal Compound to improve cooling performance and prolong CPU life. [+4]
CARE3: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize System Airflow [+5]
CAS: CORSAIR ICUE 7000X RGB SERIES ATX Full-Tower Gaming Chassis + 4x CORSAIR SP140 RGB ELITE fans [-428]
COOLANT: Hydro X Series XL8 Performance Coolant - Clear
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i9-12900KS 8P/16 + 8E 3.40GHz [Turbo 5.5GHz] 30MB Cache LGA1700 [Special Edition] [+270]
CS_FAN: 3X 140mm Thermaltake Riing 14 Series High Static Pressure 140mm Case/Radiator Fan [+49] (Green Color LED)
FAN: Thermaltake Custom Flexible Tubing Water Cooling kit with 360mm Radiator, W4 CPU Block, D5 Reservoir+Pump [+35] (3 x Standard 120MM Fans)
HDD: 2TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD, Seq R/W: Up to 7000/5100 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1000/1000k (Dual Drive (2TB x 2) [+337])
HDD2: 2TB Samsung 870 QVO-Series SATA-III 6 Gb/s SSD, Seq R/W: Up to 560/530 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 98/88k (2TB x 2) RAID 1 Performance with Data Security [+225])
KEYBOARD: Razer Huntsman Elite OPTO-Mechanical Speed of Light Gaming Keyboard w/ magnetic wrist rest, multi-function digital dial and media keys [+59]
MEMORY: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5/6000MHz Dual Channel Memory [+120] (GSKILL TRIDENT Z5 RGB [+240])
MONITOR: 28" ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q - 28inch 4K HDR (3840x2160), 5ms, IPS, Adaptive-Sync, FreeSync™, HDR 10 Gaming Monitor [+389] (Single Monitor)
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS ProArt Z690-CREATOR WiFi ATX DDR5 ARGB, WiFi 6, 2.5GbE LAN, 3 PCIE X16, 8x SATA3 4X M.2 SATA/PCIE /2xTB4 [+303]
MOUSE: Razer Basilisk V2 20,000 DPI Wired Optical Gaming Mouse with 11 Programmable Buttons [-7]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Windows 11 Home
POWERSUPPLY: 1,350 Watts - ENERMAX Platimax EPM1350EWT 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply [+270]
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
SOUND: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus (PCI-e x1) Sound Card w/ Dolby Digital Live and DTS Encoding [+147]
VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 3090 Ti 24GB GDDR6X (Ampere) [VR Ready] (Single Card)
WARRANTY: PREMIUM WARRANTY: Standard 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]
XUSB1: External USB DVDRW [+38]
PRICE: (+7383)
Purchase Separately:
External Speakers: Logitech Z906 THXTM Certified Dolby DTS 5.1 speaker system
Webcam/Mic: Logitech HD Pro C920 webcam with (dual noise cancellation) stereo microphones
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Post by bmwcrazy on Jul 1, 2022 22:34:46 GMT
Here's a quest ion for the hivemind. If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from? JayzTwoCents.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 2, 2022 18:30:13 GMT
Here's a quest ion for the hivemind. If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from? Myself. I am too much of a tinker -even Steve or Jay would never be able to get it just right.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 2, 2022 22:02:45 GMT
Here's a quest ion for the hivemind. If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from? Also like to add that by making it myself and not needing it delivered would keep it out of hands like this guy:
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Post by bmwcrazy on Jul 3, 2022 8:14:20 GMT
Myself. I am too much of a tinker -even Steve or Jay would never be able to get it just right. If you've already gotten your 3070 Ti, you really should finish building your PC as soon as possible. Otherwise, you might as well wait for the 40-series Geforce and ATX 3.0 PSU.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 3, 2022 10:08:26 GMT
Myself. I am too much of a tinker -even Steve or Jay would never be able to get it just right. If you've already gotten your 3070 Ti, you really should finish building your PC as soon as possible. Otherwise, you might as well wait for the 40-series Geforce and ATX 3.0 PSU. As stated here: bsn.boards.net/post/1534190That is indeed another one down. This was -along with the memory -posted a few post above are the last things ordered. Though that ram isn't exactly the low profile as I would like its the best bang for buck to still give head room... Another positive is it also has no conflicting RGB.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 3, 2022 10:09:52 GMT
Myself. I am too much of a tinker -even Steve or Jay would never be able to get it just right. If you've already gotten your 3070 Ti, you really should finish building your PC as soon as possible. Otherwise, you might as well wait for the 40-series Geforce and ATX 3.0 PSU. Also hopefully as soon as my statement clears these are on the chopping block: The Hard Drives, SBW, 2nd-ary MB, some Iceberg Thermal IceGALEs and the Camera. However the very last thing is such a chore I will never understand these structurally unsound fad "Gamer Desks". Put some sturdy legs on -good grief this isn't a ballerina convention! As to the 4000 series... I think Anthony says it best:
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Post by rewindbutton on Jul 4, 2022 8:10:38 GMT
If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from? There used to be small companies that built custom PCs, but they are all gone. However, since youtubers were mentioned: Jay for looks, phenomenal water cooling and practical OC Steve and Anthony for overall performance and functionality Der8auer for that weird German engineer approach and OC Actually Hardcore Overclocking for.. well it's all in the name  |
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jul 4, 2022 20:02:19 GMT
this isn't a ballerina convention! Indeed it is not!  But isn't working on this insides of a PC dainty work that requires grace, skill, dexterity and flexability?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 4, 2022 20:55:58 GMT
If price were no object and you wanted someone else to build you a custom PC, who would you order it from? There used to be small companies that built custom PCs, but they are all gone. However, since youtubers were mentioned: Jay for looks, phenomenal water cooling and practical OC Steve and Anthony for overall performance and functionality Der8auer for that weird German engineer approach and OC Actually Hardcore Overclocking for.. well it's all in the name  Well of course you can only pick one -they would never be able to work together to build it. And if you interject Linus into this -that is one ego that will overwhelm them all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 20:58:45 GMT
Plus reach ... don't forget reach. And TuTus too? I don't think we're in Asus anymore.  |
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At sunrise there is the sunset.
To find the secrets of the universe: Think in terms of energy, frequency & VIBRATION -Nikola Tesla
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Origin: NO. NEVER. AGAIN.
XBL Gamertag: No.
PSN: No
Posts: 5,220 Likes: 5,079
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jul 4, 2022 20:59:45 GMT
Indeed it is not! But isn't working on this insides of a PC dainty work that requires grace, skill, dexterity and flexability? Either that or a hammer, a blow torch and a pair of wire cutters... That said I was referring to the skinny legs of the "Gamer Desks": Being like that of a ballerina -too much pressure and it breaks. Plus reach ... don't forget reach. And TuTus too? I don't think we're in Asus anymore.  Agreed. ASUS isn't worth anything anymore. 
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