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Well, I do agree, since my point was the same. I didn't mean the turians were inherently better then humans, but that due to the timeline, the former clearly had a much bigger advantage on the latter, and humanity won't be able to win the war. In a different scenario, as you mentioned, the situation could be different.

Is there a single fight in the trilogy they don't get wiped?

Benezias goon squad can get rekt by a lone N7 backed up by an untrained archeologist and a sickly teenage mechanic

Several squads of them got taken out by some pathetic cannibals and a couple banshees at the Monastery.

Stick to dancing.🤣

So your argument to the contrary is because the only fights we see them in are either against the protagonist thus plot armor or against an unending army created by a race whose occupation has been exterminating races for over a billion years they suck?

Yeah I’ll trust the lore over you.

You're talking of one volus, in ME3. I'm talking about the whole race, during the First Contact War, or around that time. Humanity grew and rose a lot between that even, and ME1-ME3.

The asari themselves are the plot armor. No way those weaklings wouldn't have been exterminated yet. Hoarding a beacon and still too weak to fight the krogan or rachni alone.

I dont care about some lore entry telling me they're strong when they get clowned on every time they show up.

Have the asari ever won a war?

Nah, asari have the power of Mary Sue's.

Not just one volus. The Ambassador. Representative of the entire race. 2nd in power only to the great Niftu Cal himself.

We offer him a council seat next to the vorcha and elcor, and the rest of the biotic gods would follow him. He's a hero, a bloody icon.

Ironic last statement, considering your first.

Sure I have. It’s explicitly explained.

So now you, prove to me your head canon about how humanity not using ME technology would let them win.

And lets bring up the Asari and Salarians while we are at it (Completing the Big 3 of the Council)

Asari don't have a massive military like the Turians.  They may only have roughly the same amount as the Alliance (49 to 50 million), possibly more.  And that's primarily the active "marines" if you will, not including Navy like personnel with their Silaris Armoring and more dreadnaughts than humans.  And their skills range as commandos from those who may be only as strong as some of the moderately strong humans, to those who may have barriers strong enough shield entire cities (Sarissa Theris) and or rival Jack if not flat out pass her.  Regardless, all are skilled killers (just not as skilled as Shepard lmao).  In a fleet war, depends on tactics but Asari have double the amount of dreadnaughts as humans.  

But in a ground war...if enough of them are in the power level of Sarissa, Aria or Samara...the Alliance is in trouble.  Not an impossible war, but once again they will have to get dirty.



Salarians + STG may be similar to Humans in military size as well.  Can't say.  We do know they also have more dreadnaughts.  And they play SUPER dirty.  Salarians win by hitting us with Covid 186...  ...and taking out our leaders in the process.  The Alliance won't even know their in a war before they already lost (unless they get the drop on the Salarians...we already saw what happened when Cerberus did lol.  Not the best war of attrition battles soldiers).



Against the entire Council at once?  Turians solo, Asari and Salarians sit back and eat popcorn.


Now in comparison to the other races:

Krogans- de militarized WAAAAAAYYYY before Humanity hit the scene.

Quarians- Geth wiped out billions.  Before humanity hit the scene.  Only 17 million left, and thats far less than the Alliance military.

Hanar: Not a strong military force, and 300,000 + drell aren't enough to help them outside of assassin contracts.  More of a political force than Military.

Volus: If not for being a client race of the Turians, they aren't a military race at all.  More political via Economy.

Elcor: Not a military race compared to the big ones, and they move slow.  At most hey might have cannons on their back in a ground war, but thats easy for the Alliance to get around.



Batarians: By the time humanity arrived on the scene, they were probably the fourth most powerful military, but overall paled drastically in comparison to the Turians, Salarians, and Asari.  And unlike those three, had no major say in any galactic wars (Rachni, Krogan, etc.).  This is humanity's initial rival, and the Alliance was stronger, beat their pirates back in Elysium, Thresca Raids and Torfan, had them leave the Citadel embassy, etc.  

THIS is why the Alliance is important.  Humanity got LUCKY, and by the start of ME1 they are the 4th most powerful military and most vocal embassy.  While their overall military is not as competent as the Turians or the other big 2, they do have a mix of skills to get the job done, and their N7 program (for those who make it that far) might be even better than Turian training due to versatility for fighting well in any environment in almost any condition possible.  They have a Spectre (or 2), and various Black Ops (most notably Cerberus at one point) to help things out.  But with all that, what put them on the MAP was the battle of the Citadel.  It made them stand out, they saved the Citadel, and out of respect for that they were put on the Council.   


But they are NOT that major in comparison to the other 3 yet.  Humanity is the underdog of the council, and only got there because the other non council races..well..suck   

Ever heard of hyperspace travel? Or what about slipspace travel?