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Post by Gileadan on Feb 8, 2021 7:21:44 GMT
For me personally it's not worth the full AAA price. It's basically a fresh paint job for content I already own and have played enough. Maybe with a biiig discount...
For comparison: €39,99 got me Halo: The Master Chief Collection, six remastered games I didn't own yet where the graphical upgrades are extremely obvious (you can switch between original and remaster with the press of a button any time in game).
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 8, 2021 9:00:19 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 8, 2021 13:08:08 GMT
For me personally it's not worth the full AAA price. It's basically a fresh paint job for content I already own and have played enough. Maybe with a biiig discount... For comparison: €39,99 got me Halo: The Master Chief Collection, six remastered games I didn't own yet where the graphical upgrades are extremely obvious (you can switch between original and remaster with the press of a button any time in game). MCC could've been a good deal had it worked when it launched. That thing was such a huge mess that it cost 343 a lot of trust and turned people away from halo because they couldn't even properly do remasters. Even I don't play it anymore and I'm aware it's gotten better. It's why first impression matters because to some people they may not come back to the product after. Of course I also just haven't enjoyed 343s halo games in general so it was even easier to just slowly get away from the hall brand. Anyways yea, it was 4 when it originally launched for $60 and $15 more if you wanted odst (that didn't even come with firefight). Maybe now it's worth buying but back then it was a huge PR disaster Regardless remasters aren't for everyone, they tend to be for people who have never played or people like me who want the improvements even if we've played it many times over. I still think $60 is great for 3 entire games+ dlc when generally most remasters are just one game for the same price. They "could" just charge $60 for each if they really wanted after all, doubt it'd sell well though.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 8, 2021 15:10:46 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. This is what I am struggling to understand myself. Since the price it too high for me I still have all my original purchases of the games to play and if the price drops enough for me to consider playing again for the improvement to ME1 then I will give it a purchase and knowing how game prices generally go it probably will be before the summer.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 8, 2021 15:21:33 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. This is what I am struggling to understand myself. Since the price it too high for me I still have all my original purchases of the games to play and if the price drops enough for me to consider playing again for the improvement to ME1 then I will give it a purchase and knowing how game prices generally go it probably will be before the summer. I guess it's meant for another audience for the most part.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 8, 2021 15:24:25 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. People who want to have a new copy. People who don't have all the dlc. It's cheaper to buy the remaster than purchase the dlc they don't have. Because they want to.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 8, 2021 15:24:47 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. This is what I am struggling to understand myself. Since the price it too high for me I still have all my original purchases of the games to play and if the price drops enough for me to consider playing again for the improvement to ME1 then I will give it a purchase and knowing how game prices generally go it probably will be before the summer. It depends on how much they fixed up ME1. When I do trilogy runs while its my favorite story the game play is a slog. I'd pay something for fixing that, enhanced visuals and bug fixes along the way and its worth $60 to me.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 8, 2021 16:56:04 GMT
Running an EA Pro subscription. I'll just rent it.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Feb 8, 2021 22:22:28 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. This is what I am struggling to understand myself. Since the price it too high for me I still have all my original purchases of the games to play and if the price drops enough for me to consider playing again for the improvement to ME1 then I will give it a purchase and knowing how game prices generally go it probably will be before the summer. I have all three games plus most DLC (all mission DLC and some extras like weapon packs) on Xbox 360. I plan on purchasing the Legendary Edition on PC since it is a better deal than purchasing most everything again on PC. Since the Legendary Edition will have controller support and some of the ME1 gameplay changes sound good, switching over to PC is kind of a no-brainer for me; I could pretty much retire my Xbox 360 except when I want to replay some of my other games.
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Post by river82 on Feb 8, 2021 22:27:36 GMT
FFXIV is releasing a PS5 version and anyone with a PS4 version can upgrade to the new one for freeeeeeeeeee But I don't expect that business model to take off. I'm just saying that these are the sorts of companies I will spend hundreds of dollars a year to gladly sub to for a game. Remasters are needed when upgrading games created for the SD era to the HD era. As someone who doesn't have an a 4K TV or monitor will I even see a noticeable difference from the HD 360 version to the new thingy thing version? Probably not. I can't justify the expense therefore
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Post by Radec on Feb 8, 2021 22:33:22 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. My near decade and a half old PS3 barely works anymore (occasionally refuses to spit out disks), and I like playing ME1 and ME2. The gameplay improvements to 1 look interesting. On the downside, they left out pretty much the only redeeming quality of 3 (the Multiplayer), so I'll prob only go for LE if/when my old conslol dies entirely.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 8, 2021 23:15:20 GMT
This is what I am struggling to understand myself. Since the price it too high for me I still have all my original purchases of the games to play and if the price drops enough for me to consider playing again for the improvement to ME1 then I will give it a purchase and knowing how game prices generally go it probably will be before the summer. I have all three games plus most DLC (all mission DLC and some extras like weapon packs) on Xbox 360. I plan on purchasing the Legendary Edition on PC since it is a better deal than purchasing most everything again on PC. Since the Legendary Edition will have controller support and some of the ME1 gameplay changes sound good, switching over to PC is kind of a no-brainer for me; I could pretty much retire my Xbox 360 except when I want to replay some of my other games. I probably should have worded it a little better, but that is what I get for posting on the internet before my morning coffee. What I was trying to refer too and poorly at that is if you don't think its worth the full price because you already own the existing version of the game just wait. Since you already own the game in some form. Since you see the value for it, I am glad for then it means that this remaster has found its purpose.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 9, 2021 8:52:42 GMT
Running an EA Pro subscription. I'll just rent it. Didn't you hear? Just before release EA is launching the EA Elite subscription package for only an extra 10$/month...MELE is slated for that.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 9, 2021 15:15:39 GMT
If you've already played everything in the MET - why would you even buy the remaster? The only sales prop is all the DLC but I aint paying 60 eddies for that. Streaming capabilities for me, plus on a newer console in one package and not scattershot across DLC that I have trouble accessing. The graphical upgrades and combat enhancements are nice bonus too. As is controller support for PC.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 11, 2021 18:32:06 GMT
Running an EA Pro subscription. I'll just rent it. Didn't you hear? Just before release EA is launching the EA Elite subscription package for only an extra 10$/month...MELE is slated for that. But I want the Ultimate Platinum Super Deluxe Tier 4 option... When?
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Post by jclosed on Feb 11, 2021 19:28:07 GMT
Well - To be honest.
I really loved the Mass Effect Trilogy, and I have bought all games and all story DLC's. I have played those games until the bolts and springs dropped out because of metal fatigue. In short - I have played those games so many times I got overeaten with it, and now have a very, very, very hard time if I want to push myself to play those games again.
So - If I push myself very hard then just maybe I can talk myself into playing a remaster IF that remastered trilogy was offered for free (or for a very small fee). But even then I doubt that.
But paying €60 for the privelege of forcing myself to play the whole story again? I don't think so!
I will pass on this remaster, and will wait until ME5 gets released. Even then I will buy that game only if they don't resurrect a Shepard zombie again - I hate zombie games!
It's sad - I really like the Mass Effect series, but only as a series. That means not staying in the stone age, but pushing forward. In that aspect Andromeda was a breath of fresh air. Sure - It was not superb (also not that bad honestly), but it was a new start. If they had given the game a chance with some good upgrades and DLC's it maybe could have had the cult status the first ME game has. To be honest - That first game was no brilliant game either. By the time ME:A 3 was released it probably would have grown into an just as good trilogy as the original ME. But that's just my ideas about it.
To sum everything up. Maybe I will play the remastered ME if I get it for (almost) free, although I would not count on it very much. For €60? Are you out of your mind?! No way!
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Post by helios969 on Feb 11, 2021 20:47:30 GMT
Didn't you hear? Just before release EA is launching the EA Elite subscription package for only an extra 10$/month...MELE is slated for that. But I want the Ultimate Platinum Super Deluxe Tier 4 option... When? Why Mass Effect: Return to Milky Way, of course good Sir. Always happy to take a loyal customers, money.
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Post by chugster on May 20, 2021 14:05:18 GMT
Well i did buy it, but not directly from EA so i saved £20.
Just a shame EA wont learn
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 14:25:31 GMT
Uh, how the heck would they even determine who is a 'loyal customer' and how would they even give a discount if they could determine that? This is so obvious and easy, not sure how you didn't think of it. Throw "loyalty" out the window, they did years ago and it is not a suitable term for a business relationship. If there exists a gamer account with all the games and DLCs, they know it because Origin. Whether that customer is loyal to the Batarian Hegemony is irrelevant, they get a discount. Gee, I would have got a discount. And I probably would have used it, and they would have earned more money. Oh well. Edit: your later console deflection is not gonna work dude. Please, think that through - PS and M$ have telemetry too, and game stores, and gamertags with persistent accounts.
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Post by General Mahad on May 20, 2021 14:39:59 GMT
I got a 10% discount for being a loyal customer of GameStop. Does that count?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 14:47:53 GMT
Uh, how the heck would they even determine who is a 'loyal customer' and how would they even give a discount if they could determine that? This is so obvious and easy, not sure how you didn't think of it. Throw "loyalty" out the window, they did years ago and it is not a suitable term for a business relationship. If there exists a gamer account with all the games and DLCs, they know it because Origin. Whether that customer is loyal to the Batarian Hegemony is irrelevant, they get a discount. Gee, I would have got a discount. And I probably would have used it, and they would have earned more money. Oh well. Edit: your later console deflection is not gonna work dude. Please, think that through - PS and M$ have telemetry too, and game stores, and gamertags with persistent accounts. I think what concerns them more is that the overall package is priced at a point where they can attract entirely new customers. Many old customers won't re-buy remastered games anyways because they can still happily play their originals. They already know the content as well, so they can easily just wait until the remaster goes on sale. They don't really have to bother with preferred customer discounts and the tracking that goes with it. At any rate, their pricing strategy seems to be working well enough... i.e. they are selling enough copies to get a decent return on investment.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 14:52:56 GMT
This is so obvious and easy, not sure how you didn't think of it. Throw "loyalty" out the window, they did years ago and it is not a suitable term for a business relationship. If there exists a gamer account with all the games and DLCs, they know it because Origin. Whether that customer is loyal to the Batarian Hegemony is irrelevant, they get a discount. Gee, I would have got a discount. And I probably would have used it, and they would have earned more money. Oh well. Edit: your later console deflection is not gonna work dude. Please, think that through - PS and M$ have telemetry too, and game stores, and gamertags with persistent accounts. I think what concerns them more is that the overall package is priced at a point where they can attract entirely new customers. Many old customers won't re-buy remastered games anyways because they can still happily play their originals. They already know the content as well, so they can easily just wait until the remaster goes on sale. They don't really have to bother with preferred customer discounts and the tracking that goes with it. At any rate, their pricing strategy seems to be working well enough... i.e. they are selling enough copies to get a decent return on investment. No argument with their results. Just pointing out they could have sold more with a little effort. It wouldn't have taken a massive discount to get me to buy earlier. As it is, if I buy this LE, it will be for dimes on the dollar. Still profitable for them at that point (because it's all gravy already), but they could have made more money and garnered more goodwill. Would new gamers gave been alienated by a discount given to someone who had already invested hundreds of dollars in the franchise? I hope not, seems a little special.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 14:58:59 GMT
I think what concerns them more is that the overall package is priced at a point where they can attract entirely new customers. Many old customers won't re-buy remastered games anyways because they can still happily play their originals. They already know the content as well, so they can easily just wait until the remaster goes on sale. They don't really have to bother with preferred customer discounts and the tracking that goes with it. At any rate, their pricing strategy seems to be working well enough... i.e. they are selling enough copies to get a decent return on investment. No argument with their results. Just pointing out they could have sold more with a little effort. It wouldn't have taken a massive discount to get me to buy earlier. As it is, if I buy this LE, it will be for dimes on the dollar. Still profitable for them at that point (because it's all gravy already), but they could have made more money and garnered more goodwill. Would new gamers gave been alienated by a discount given to someone who had already invested hundreds of dollars in the franchise? I hope not, seems a little special. Hard to say what the data collected by general consumer surveys is saying about that. It's possible that new customers in general (not just Bioware customers) are giving indications that they don't like "preferred customer" discounts. The corporate heads just roll the dice based on general trends when making decisions like that. On the plus side, even good remasters (like this one) tend to hit the discount bin pretty fast anyways.
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Post by shinobiwan on May 20, 2021 14:59:12 GMT
This is so obvious and easy, not sure how you didn't think of it. Throw "loyalty" out the window, they did years ago and it is not a suitable term for a business relationship. If there exists a gamer account with all the games and DLCs, they know it because Origin. Whether that customer is loyal to the Batarian Hegemony is irrelevant, they get a discount. Gee, I would have got a discount. And I probably would have used it, and they would have earned more money. Oh well. Edit: your later console deflection is not gonna work dude. Please, think that through - PS and M$ have telemetry too, and game stores, and gamertags with persistent accounts. I think what concerns them more is that the overall package is priced at a point where they can attract entirely new customers. Many old customers won't re-buy remastered games anyways because they can still happily play their originals. They already know the content as well, so they can easily just wait until the remaster goes on sale. They don't really have to bother with preferred customer discounts and the tracking that goes with it. At any rate, their pricing strategy seems to be working well enough... i.e. they are selling enough copies to get a decent return on investment. Agreed. It’s not a matter of what people think they “deserve,” it’s whatever maximizes sales. It’s clear the remaster is doing well, which suggests they made the right call on pricing. I also don’t see how the concept of a loyalty discount makes any sense from their perspective. The people who bought the originals are already clearly engaged with the subject matter of the games. Maybe a discount would convert to some additional sales, but most likely it would be more than offset by the revenue lost from a ton of people who would have bought the remaster regardless. And big picture, I think $60 for three good games is more than fair.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 15:09:40 GMT
Agreed. It’s not a matter of what people think they “deserve,” it’s whatever maximizes sales. It’s clear the remaster is doing well, which suggests they made the right call on pricing. Agreed, the price is a good number for new buyers, solid value imo. Yes, more sales good. Please explain what you mean here, I don't get it. Are you saying that they would have lost revenue by offering a discount to Alliance veterans? I disagree - this veteran bought the Legendary Cache, would have bought the LE to go with it if the price was right. Not even a bundle was offered there, which defies logic. Again, totally agree with you. There are lots of people on this forum that will not purchase this game anywhere near full price. This forum's membership is primarily made of people who actually do like and care for BW product... It is not an insignificant cohort of sales, and you forget the power of word of mouth amongst salivating fans that just got a wet bennie from their favorite gaming company. That's all I've got really.
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