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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 2, 2021 23:53:14 GMT
I'm also just really glad that the DLC "Arrival" made it in. I have so much fun with that one. ah yes, Arrival. For me, it's the best dlc in the trilogy featuring one of the best scenes with the conversation between Shepard and Harbinger. excellent. Have a like  For me, this is probably the worst DLC in ME2, and that kind of pains me because conceptually, I love it. The logic in the plot is just all over the place. Why bother laying a trap? Placing so much importance on Shepard being captured alive frankly reached heights hitherto unexplored realms of retardation, and we fall into the very basic and obvious dumb villain trope because of reasons. I would just rather have arrived there and just end up facing off with indoctrinated mooks all the way through without the whole keep Shep alive and being captured for no reason part. Maybe as soon as we land, Amanda Kenson just gets shot in the face by one of her people and it kicks off from there.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 3, 2021 0:07:55 GMT
ah yes, Arrival. For me, it's the best dlc in the trilogy featuring one of the best scenes with the conversation between Shepard and Harbinger. excellent. Have a like For me, this is probably the worst DLC in ME2, and that kind of pains me because conceptually, I love it. The logic in the plot is just all over the place. Why bother laying a trap? Placing so much importance on Shepard being captured alive frankly reached heights hitherto unexplored realms of retardation, and we fall into the very basic and obvious dumb villain trope because of reasons. I would just rather have arrived there and just end up facing off with indoctrinated mooks all the way through without the whole keep Shep alive and being captured for no reason part. Maybe as soon as we land, Amanda Kenson just gets shot in the face by one of her people and it kicks off from there. I kind of liked that as it showed indoctrination as not pure mind control. It is trying to convince people their actions are the correct one. In D&D terms suggestions spell vs dominate. So capturing Shepard to convince him of your way is a easy ask, murdering him in his sleep not so much.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 3, 2021 0:10:17 GMT
Pinnacle Station sucked when it was new, it sucks now, and it will always suck. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I vaguely remember the bland apartment you have on some planet and the bland simulation games. If any DLC had to fall into the digital masher, that would be the one I'd pick. I actually liked the simulation games, well except on insanity. Training yourself to beat things under a really hard time limit was one of the few challenges the game presented. The apartment was bland, but the console was dope.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 3, 2021 0:18:34 GMT
ah yes, Arrival. For me, it's the best dlc in the trilogy featuring one of the best scenes with the conversation between Shepard and Harbinger. excellent. Have a like For me, this is probably the worst DLC in ME2, and that kind of pains me because conceptually, I love it. The logic in the plot is just all over the place. Why bother laying a trap? Placing so much importance on Shepard being captured alive frankly reached heights hitherto unexplored realms of retardation, and we fall into the very basic and obvious dumb villain trope because of reasons. I would just rather have arrived there and just end up facing off with indoctrinated mooks all the way through without the whole keep Shep alive and being captured for no reason part. Maybe as soon as we land, Amanda Kenson just gets shot in the face by one of her people and it kicks off from there. That's fine. I believe the dlc would have been better than it was if A/K were in it. After not hearing from Shepard, Hackett sends in A/K to fine out what happened. Once Shepard is freed, both fight off all the goons.
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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 3, 2021 0:23:20 GMT
I'm also just really glad that the DLC "Arrival" made it in. I have so much fun with that one. ah yes, Arrival. For me, it's the best dlc in the trilogy featuring one of the best scenes with the conversation between Shepard and Harbinger. excellent. Have a like 
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 3, 2021 2:13:06 GMT
For me, this is probably the worst DLC in ME2, and that kind of pains me because conceptually, I love it. The logic in the plot is just all over the place. Why bother laying a trap? Placing so much importance on Shepard being captured alive frankly reached heights hitherto unexplored realms of retardation, and we fall into the very basic and obvious dumb villain trope because of reasons. I would just rather have arrived there and just end up facing off with indoctrinated mooks all the way through without the whole keep Shep alive and being captured for no reason part. Maybe as soon as we land, Amanda Kenson just gets shot in the face by one of her people and it kicks off from there. I kind of liked that as it showed indoctrination as not pure mind control. It is trying to convince people their actions are the correct one. In D&D terms suggestions spell vs dominate. So capturing Shepard to convince him of your way is a easy ask, murdering him in his sleep not so much. Thing is, they were clearly trying to kill Shepard before. I mowed through scores of these goons only to finally have project installation art finally make Shep collapse. Harbie could've just said "Man this bitch ain't worth it. Jettison her into space."
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Post by Radec on Feb 3, 2021 2:51:01 GMT
For me, this is probably the worst DLC in ME2, and that kind of pains me because conceptually, I love it. The logic in the plot is just all over the place. Why bother laying a trap? Placing so much importance on Shepard being captured alive frankly reached heights hitherto unexplored realms of retardation, and we fall into the very basic and obvious dumb villain trope because of reasons. I would just rather have arrived there and just end up facing off with indoctrinated mooks all the way through without the whole keep Shep alive and being captured for no reason part. Maybe as soon as we land, Amanda Kenson just gets shot in the face by one of her people and it kicks off from there. That's fine. I believe the dlc would have been better than it was if A/K were in it. After not hearing from Shepard, Hackett sends in A/K to fine out what happened. Once Shepard is freed, both fight off all the goons. That'd be nice but I guess bio was too set on maintaining the pointless drama of the stupid "i DoNt TrUsT u CuZ cErBeRuS" plot for ME3. |
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Post by Radec on Feb 3, 2021 2:52:03 GMT
I kind of liked that as it showed indoctrination as not pure mind control. It is trying to convince people their actions are the correct one. In D&D terms suggestions spell vs dominate. So capturing Shepard to convince him of your way is a easy ask, murdering him in his sleep not so much. Thing is, they were clearly trying to kill Shepard before. I mowed through scores of these goons only to finally have project installation art finally make Shep collapse. Harbie could've just said "Man this bitch ain't worth it. Jettison her into space." "HUMAN, AN ANNOYANCE. LIMITED UTILITY" *airlock noises and screaming* |
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Post by ahglock on Feb 3, 2021 15:32:26 GMT
I kind of liked that as it showed indoctrination as not pure mind control. It is trying to convince people their actions are the correct one. In D&D terms suggestions spell vs dominate. So capturing Shepard to convince him of your way is a easy ask, murdering him in his sleep not so much. Thing is, they were clearly trying to kill Shepard before. I mowed through scores of these goons only to finally have project installation art finally make Shep collapse. Harbie could've just said "Man this bitch ain't worth it. Jettison her into space."
They try to kill you when you pose an active threat, but once you are down killing someone in their sleep is a different ask. People have different thresholds of how far they are willing to go. So for me this worked.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 3, 2021 16:47:07 GMT
Thing is, they were clearly trying to kill Shepard before. I mowed through scores of these goons only to finally have project installation art finally make Shep collapse. Harbie could've just said "Man this bitch ain't worth it. Jettison her into space."
They try to kill you when you pose an active threat, but once you are down killing someone in their sleep is a different ask. People have different thresholds of how far they are willing to go. So for me this worked.
Well, it certainly wouldn’t be the biggest idiot ball the reapers ever held, but it’s still heavy indeed.
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Post by Radec on Feb 3, 2021 16:55:06 GMT
Harby been having the Collectors try too murk Shep for the whole game with only the small caveat of "PRESERVE SHEPARD'S BODY IF POSSIBLE"
Oh but now we're gonna have these indoctrinated humans just capture and put you on a bed with no restraints, with 2 incompetent guards to control a cyborg who can fistfight a Yahg, in a room with an easily accessible terminal for remote controlling armed mechs.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 3, 2021 20:48:44 GMT
Harby been having the Collectors try too murk Shep for the whole game with only the small caveat of "PRESERVE SHEPARD'S BODY IF POSSIBLE" Oh but now we're gonna have these indoctrinated humans just capture and put you on a bed with no restraints, with 2 incompetent guards to control a cyborg who can fistfight a Yahg, in a room with an easily accessible terminal for remote controlling armed mechs. I don't think they planned Shepard would come around, so entire capture was improvised and they did not have proper facility to jail Shepard.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 3, 2021 20:55:21 GMT
Of course it would have been better to have everything in but honestly, if there is one piece of content I can live without it's pinnacle station.
It's also the only peice of content within the trilogy which I skipped on most playthroughs because it was mostly tedious and even the little bits of story were not good.
The only cool thing about it was the fact that you could get Savant amps and omnitools on the cheap in the apartment but hey, I can live without it.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 3, 2021 21:01:01 GMT
Of course it would have been better to have everything in but honestly, if there is one piece of content I can live without it's pinnacle station. It's also the only peice of content within the trilogy which I skipped on most playthroughs because it was mostly tedious and even the little bits of story were not good. The only cool thing about it was the fact that you could get Savant amps and monitools for cheap in the apartment but hey, I can live without it. Yep, I will dabble in Pinnacle Station if the mood strikes me but most of the time I don't even bother with it and I tend to be pretty thorough on most of my ME 1 playthroughs. |
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Post by turianlannister on Feb 4, 2021 3:30:24 GMT
It's because Kelly Chambers wasn't in that DLC. Well that is a good argument i can respect. Also no Karen plus Gabby & Ken.  Ken's a creep and his accent is terrible so no loss there
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Post by helios969 on Feb 4, 2021 7:46:13 GMT
Hopefully the same will be said when there's no sequel to MEA. Or at the very least, no Ryder returning.  I'd buy that for a dollar. 👍😈 Shoot, there's a army of fans out there that might throw a dollar at EA/Bioware to make that happen...probably would make more than the actual sequel. 
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Post by helios969 on Feb 4, 2021 8:00:01 GMT
See lot's of arguments on DLC's. Here's the correct ranking.  1. Lair of the Shadow Broker 2. Arrival 3. Citadel 4. Omega 5. Leviathan 6. Kasumi – Stolen Memory 7. Zaeed – The Price of Revenge 8. From Ashes 9. Bring Down the Sky 10. Overlord 11. Normandy Crash Site 12. Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut |
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Post by Garo on Feb 4, 2021 9:03:10 GMT
Files corrupted? Bro, I have this DLC, do you want me to send my computer to you bro?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 4, 2021 9:34:56 GMT
Files corrupted? Bro, I have this DLC, do you want me to send my computer to you bro? There’s a big difference between regular files and the source code. |
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Post by cptdata on Feb 5, 2021 0:12:48 GMT
You're describing all of ME3, tho. Citadel is at least doing it deliberately as a gag thing. Yeah, I didn’t like that about ME3. Like Ashley who had so much to explore between how far she’d gotten in the Alliance this overcoming her family being blacklisted or her being a religious person during basically the apocalypse but instead “lol she now drinks a lot”.
Best remedy on that: produce a "headcanon". It made Ashley (my primary LI in nearly all playthroughs) acceptable in ME3. Got the short end of the stick, but others got even worse (poor Miranda, for example). Ashley's drinking habits collide a bit with my headcanon: she's a coffee addict but doesn't go too deep into alcohol. Maybe someone at BW thought it would display her way how she cope with things, but they did better with Shepard (who got a peptalk by Liara).
Anyways, I love the Citadel DLC and wish it would be the final thing in ME3 instead of, you know, that terrible final choice.
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I don't mind the lack of "Pinnacle Station" as it wasn't part of any given storyline. And then we had that poor combat system in ME1, a DLC dealing with combat only ... you know, it wasn't that great. Bring Down the Sky added a story, Pinnacle Station did not.
I still miss, by the way, a Virmire-Survivor DLC dealing with either Kaidan and Ashley (whoever survived in your playthrough), dealing with the death of the other one. I'd call it a "character development DLC", similar to "Lair of the Shadow Broker". Won't happen every. Again: headcanon saves the day.
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Post by midnightwolf on Feb 5, 2021 0:36:42 GMT
In all of my playthrough's of ME1, I can honestly say I've never bothered with Pinnacle Station beyond my first playthrough. It's the ME1 equivalent to the Armax in ME3, but less fun.
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Post by Kelwing on Feb 8, 2021 22:47:48 GMT
Messed with Pinnacle Station one time. I will not miss it not being part of the LE.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Feb 9, 2021 1:43:21 GMT
Apparently all the data for it was either corrupted or lost, so it’s not included unfortunately.
It's also the worst DLC in the trilogy. You aren't missing much to begin with, it's basically an extremely crappy version of the Combat Simulator and the ME3 MP.
The Combat Simulator in ME3: Citadel which is MUCH better and a lot more fun, than Pinnacle Station ever was or will be.
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Post by NotN7 on Feb 9, 2021 2:22:24 GMT
What I hated about Pinnacle station was you couldn't go back there once completed total waste of time  |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2021 2:23:44 GMT
Apparently all the data for it was either corrupted or lost, so it’s not included unfortunately.
It's also the worst DLC in the trilogy. You aren't missing much to begin with, it's basically an extremely crappy version of the Combat Simulator and the ME3 MP.
The Combat Simulator in ME3: Citadel which is MUCH better and a lot more fun, than Pinnacle Station ever was or will be.
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