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Post by themikefest on Feb 25, 2021 14:15:55 GMT
...how in the world do you figure? What props this confidence so high? Because, ouff. -- Ryder is already established character, along with their squadmates and allies. Along with a lot of unfinished stories related to Ryder, it would be much easier for BioWare to just continue and expand upon Ryder, instead of doing completely new PC with completely new crew.
Shepard has unfinished business as well. Shepard doesn't know if all reapers were destroyed. There is another relay in darkspace. Is there any proof the red wave reached that far? Could thing have downloaded itself to the space station that might be near that relay? Did some of the reapers esape the red wave by heading back to darkspace? I say this because there were folks who said to blow up the relay as the reapers neared it during Arrival with others saying that the reapers would likely outrun the blast. Then there is Shepard wanting another chance to beat Samantha at chess. Either defend his/her pullup record against Vega or have another chance to beat it. The same with shooting bottles with Garrus. Ryder is already established character, along with their squadmates and allies. Along with a lot of unfinished stories related to Ryder, it would be much easier for BioWare to just continue and expand upon Ryder, instead of doing completely new PC with completely new crew.
Plus with MEA being Ryder's coming into maturity story it would be nice to play 'grown up' Ryder. And what would a grown up Ryder do? If Bioware decides to make the little one more mature and have more of a backbone, I would like at the beginning of the game a character ask Ryder why the stowaway and traitor are no longer on the ship. The relay would be because Ryder realizes that letting squadmates do stupid crap leads to bad things. Because of that, he/she got rid of them. But that won't happen because if Ryder returns, Bioware is going to bring those characters back. So if the game features a mature Ryder, then will the game feature a more mature stowaway and traitor as well? Lets say little Ryder returns, what would a trailer be? Hmmm. Gilbert Gottfried will be the narrator. The background music will be this. From the makers who brought you some of the best one-liners, my face is tired, now bring you even more one-liners. I made that guy happy. Maybe because I gave him my weapon. And you thought what the peepee did was stupid, well you haven't seen anything yet. With the great feedback about the game having the best fight in gaming history, there will be more fights like that, and there will be a bonus fight included in the game. And finally we see a nice calm setting with people walking around the nexus. Wait a minute. What's this? It's SAM as a platform holding a leash walking a duck? That's right folks, SAM and the duck, I mean Ryder, return as well. With the positive feedback from fans liking sam talking all the time, we decided to have more. Instead of saying it's cold every 15 seconds, it will be every 5 seconds. As a bonus. If you preorder the game, you get two free ringtones featuring the female and male version of the Ryder scream.
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Post by yarazin on Feb 25, 2021 15:45:27 GMT
Was just thinking they could do both Bro and Fem Shep. Cavil does S1 as John Shepard and then at the start of S2 gets whacked by the collectors. His cousin Jane Shepard then takes over... that would correct what I dislike most about ME2.
I'm being silly, but you never know.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Feb 25, 2021 17:13:08 GMT
Henry Cavil is the worst actor working today. He's at best bland, boring, and forgettable At worst he sucks the warmth and compassion out of everything. I would rather not watch or hear this idiot anywhere near a Mass Effect or a Dragon Age project, as far as I'm concerned he can so stink up The Witcher on Netflix or a play a so-called version of "Superman" in Zack Snyder's trilogy of awful DC movies.
The only thing Cavil is good for is getting a hook crane in the face and falling off a mountain and making Tom Cruise look like a legit hero and playing a emotional distant and a stiff Sherlock Holmes in a support role to his younger, smarter sister.
I've tried to like Henry Cavil as an actor but he flat out sucks. If all you want is a good looking white guy to fill out a costume who has no emotional range, screen charisma, no warmth, and no charm then he's your man.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 25, 2021 17:33:04 GMT
Plus with MEA being Ryder's coming into maturity story it would be nice to play 'grown up' Ryder. Ryder does become more mature by late stage of main MEA story. It is very clear that was always BioWare's plan with Ryder.
It would be tragedy for them to drop that just because of unfair backlash Ryder had, also foolish as new PC would still be compared to Shepard anyway, whom had trilogy to grow instead of just one game.
Nothing unfair about it, they were a crap protagonist.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 25, 2021 17:34:10 GMT
Henry Cavil is the worst actor working today. He's at best bland, boring, and forgettable At worst he sucks the warmth and compassion out of everything. I would rather not watch or hear this idiot anywhere near a Mass Effect or a Dragon Age project, as far as I'm concerned he can so stink up The Witcher on Netflix or a play a so-called version of "Superman" in Zack Snyder's trilogy of awful DC movies.
The only thing Cavil is good for is getting a hook crane in the face and falling off a mountain and making Tom Cruise look like a legit hero and playing a emotional distant and a stiff Sherlock Holmes in a support role to his younger, smarter sister.
I've tried to like Henry Cavil as an actor but he flat out sucks. If all you want is a good looking white guy to fill out a costume who has no emotional range, screen charisma, no warmth, and no charm then he's your man.
lol.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 17:56:42 GMT
I read somewhere the budget was 47m. Well, they lied. $100m Canadian, with citations on Andromeda's wikipedia page. But you're using a tv series. No, I'm using a cultural phenomenon. The premise is similar, adjusted for the medium and the time of its release and the impact it had on the medium was huge. It made everyone want to make "Bioware-like" games. It's why EA branded like 5 studios with the Bioware name. Mass Effect had everything going for it, to be huge and stand the test of time. Plus, you're asking the average non-gamer to know how to use a controller? By 2017 there were something like 80 million Sony Playstation 4s sold in the market. 40 million Xbox ones and God knows how many PCs. I expect a good chunk of those people to know how to use a controller. Do you think that out of the ~180 million population of Americans in the 1960s, all knew how to use a TV? Or had one? Roughly, the percentage would be equal. There's a lot more barriers to entry then what's needed to watch a tv series. There's a lot more people like Nate here then you probably realize. At least compare it to something like Halo or Call of Duty. Right now, video games are THE highest grossing entertainment business in the world. Bigger than cinema and music. It looks more to me like its background reading to get into the mood of the game series... dunno if its movie or game, lets see. Maybe he's preparing himself for the LE. Seeing what choices he needs to make for the "good" outcome. Poor guy.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 17:59:51 GMT
Now it's the time to redeem the game Hard sell. hopefully put time and have a better management this time cause bioware now is in a very difficult position. Oh, yeah. I can't wait for all the setups that it will build, that I will have to buy books to see resolved. You can't sell it right now. At best, you're looking at a repeat reception of the original Andromeda.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 25, 2021 18:12:42 GMT
I read somewhere the budget was 47m. Well, they lied. $100m Canadian, with citations on Andromeda's wikipedia page. But you're using a tv series. No, I'm using a cultural phenomenon. The premise is similar, adjusted for the medium and the time of its release and the impact it had on the medium was huge. It made everyone want to make "Bioware-like" games. It's why EA branded like 5 studios with the Bioware name. Mass Effect had everything going for it, to be huge and stand the test of time. Plus, you're asking the average non-gamer to know how to use a controller? By 2017 there were something like 80 million Sony Playstation 4s sold in the market. 40 million Xbox ones and God knows how many PCs. I expect a good chunk of those people to know how to use a controller. Do you think that out of the ~180 million population of Americans in the 1960s, all knew how to use a TV? Or had one? Roughly, the percentage would be equal. There's a lot more barriers to entry then what's needed to watch a tv series. There's a lot more people like Nate here then you probably realize. At least compare it to something like Halo or Call of Duty. Right now, video games are THE highest grossing entertainment business in the world. Bigger than cinema and music. You'd also have to be somewhat competent with the game too. I can't find the article, but I read a stat that on average, a game gets finished by 20% of it's player base. Regardless how good or bad the quality of said game.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 18:36:35 GMT
You'd also have to be somewhat competent with the game too. I can't find the article, but I read a stat that on average, a game gets finished by 20% of it's player base. Regardless how good or bad the quality of said game. And on TV you'd also have to not be bored by the show, the episode, miss parts when there's a commercial break, or going to the loo, or simply having an arrangement when a show airs. You're acting like there's no culturally impactful video games. Half Life, Final Fantasy, Halo, Mario, Sonic, Tomb Raider, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, fucking DOOM, Duke Nukem. People make pop culture references to these franchises all the time and are still huge. Alyx alone skyrocketed the sales of VR headsets and those things cost more than a brand new console. How about Starcraft? It's practically a religion in Korea, as is/was WoW in China. Mass Effect, as of Mass Effect 2, was on its way to become part of that. It didn't. It's not. But it still can be. You need to rebuild it, though.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 25, 2021 19:03:21 GMT
You'd also have to be somewhat competent with the game too. I can't find the article, but I read a stat that on average, a game gets finished by 20% of it's player base. Regardless how good or bad the quality of said game. You're acting like there's no culturally impactful video games. Half Life, Final Fantasy, Halo, Mario, Sonic, Tomb Raider, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, fucking DOOM, Duke Nukem. People make pop culture references to these franchises all the time and are still huge. Alyx alone skyrocketed the sales of VR headsets and those things cost more than a brand new console. How about Starcraft? It's practically a religion in Korea, as is/was WoW in China. Mass Effect, as of Mass Effect 2, was on its way to become part of that. It didn't. It's not. But it still can be. You need to rebuild it, though. Where have I said games have no cultural impact? You're using whataboutism, we're just talking about Mass Effect's importance and for some reason Star Trek.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 19:25:56 GMT
Where have I said games have no cultural impact? You're using whataboutism, we're just talking about Mass Effect's importance and for some reason Star Trek. You're making a case that because it is a video game, it can't be as big as Star Trek. But you're using a tv series. Gaming is way more expensive then tv is. Plus, you're asking the average non-gamer to know how to use a controller? How to use the console to even get to the game? There's a lot more barriers to entry then what's needed to watch a tv series. There's a lot more people like Nate here then you probably realize. At least compare it to something like Halo or Call of Duty. Because the bar is so much higher. When, in fact, you already cite games that are culturally significant. There is no reason why ME couldn't have been one of these games. ME is a sci-fi franchise, with this near legendary captain and a crew of some of the finest people in the galaxy, going planet to planet, settling disputes and exploring uncharted worlds, while also having a more important overarching plot. The template is very similar and there is room for more than one culturally significant franchise to exist and be as influential, or even overcoming other franchises in popularity. Do you think that people are the barrier that stop ME from being a big sci-fi franchise that spans several mediums? They're too dumb to get into? Star Trek levels of fame is where we could have gone to, but instead, we're not. I don't understand what you are having a problem with? That ME can't be as culturally significant and influential as Star Trek, because it's not Star Trek, because it's not a TV show, or because it's a video game?
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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 25, 2021 21:03:50 GMT
...how in the world do you figure? What props this confidence so high? Because, ouff. -- Ryder is already established character, along with their squadmates and allies.
Along with a lot of unfinished stories related to Ryder, it would be much easier for BioWare to just continue and expand upon Ryder, instead of doing completely new PC with completely new crew.
Um, no? Nothing about Ryder's situation makes it easier for BioWare. Ryder and crew were rejected by the majority of the fanbase. The story even more so. Why would anyone outside the handful of you here want to return to the mess that was Andromeda? It seems the complete opposite. That it would be easier and in BioWare's interest to move away from Ryder like they already have been. Andromeda has no DLCs or continued support due to such horrible reactions. So how you reckon they will suddenly continue on with Ryder now after all these years while ignoring Shepard and his success ($$$) while Henry Cavill is teasing a ME4/MET/Shep role is beyond me.
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Post by river82 on Feb 25, 2021 21:44:37 GMT
Ryder is already established character, along with their squadmates and allies.
Along with a lot of unfinished stories related to Ryder, it would be much easier for BioWare to just continue and expand upon Ryder, instead of doing completely new PC with completely new crew.
Um, no? Nothing about Ryder's situation makes it easier for BioWare. Ryder and crew were rejected by the majority of the fanbase. The story even more so. Why would anyone outside the handful of you here want to return to the mess that was Andromeda? It seems the complete opposite. That it would be easier and in BioWare's interest to move away from Ryder like they already have been. Andromeda has no DLCs or continued support due to such horrible reactions. So how you reckon they will suddenly continue on with Ryder now after all these years while ignoring Shepard and his success ($$$) while Henry Cavill is teasing a ME4/MET/Shep role is beyond me. Everything about Andromeda was just a little bit bland for me. Like things in the game weren't earned and setups weren't taken advantage of. For example when Ryder first arrived at the Nexus all the power was off, things seemed deserted, and Bioware had a really nice atmosphere going. You could build around that, give the players a few emotions to feel ... but nup, 2 minutes later the power seemed back on and people were found and everything was (almost) normal. That is a huge missed opportunity imo. You had the atmosphere going, why not use it? Just a bland beginning to introduce a fairly bland game unfortunately. Ryder and their crew included
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Post by Hrulj on Feb 25, 2021 21:48:31 GMT
I seriously hope it's not a movie. FFS I have 0 confidence in modern environment making any kind of good movie based on the games. It's gonna beat us over the head with xenophobia bad stick and stilted dialogue
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 25, 2021 22:37:14 GMT
I'm not crazy about Cavill, although he's okay in the Witcher. I'd rather have Scarlett Johansson or Elizabeth Olsen play Shepard.
I think Cavill is probably doing something for the screen (TV or movie) rather than a game. He is waaaay too expensive to cast as a protagonist in ME:Next, although Bioware might be able to afford him playing a side character (similar to Martin Sheen). Also, some screen actors are not very good at video game acting ("Please do 47 versions of 'grunt in pain,' okay -- go!"). Sir Patrick Stewart was in some game many years ago and he was extremely wooden, despite his obvious talent on stage/screen.
VA work should be given to VAs instead of blowing the budget on pricey screen actors with no experience.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 25, 2021 23:34:19 GMT
To be fair, that's largely due to the pandemic.
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Post by Kabraxal on Feb 26, 2021 0:32:35 GMT
To be fair, that's largely due to the pandemic. Actually video games were bigger before.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 26, 2021 0:53:19 GMT
To be fair, that's largely due to the pandemic. Actually video games were bigger before. But Hollywood was basically in a stand still for months and hell still is. As a New Yorker, I still can't go to the theater. I realize we're opening up soon,, but still. Games were able to come out and due to their nature, didn't need to worry about congregation of groups.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 26, 2021 2:36:42 GMT
To be fair, that's largely due to the pandemic. Actually, it has been for years now. Not just 2020.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Feb 26, 2021 3:09:52 GMT
Henry Cavil is the worst actor working today. He's at best bland, boring, and forgettable At worst he sucks the warmth and compassion out of everything. I would rather not watch or hear this idiot anywhere near a Mass Effect or a Dragon Age project, as far as I'm concerned he can so stink up The Witcher on Netflix or a play a so-called version of "Superman" in Zack Snyder's trilogy of awful DC movies.
The only thing Cavil is good for is getting a hook crane in the face and falling off a mountain and making Tom Cruise look like a legit hero and playing a emotional distant and a stiff Sherlock Holmes in a support role to his younger, smarter sister.
I've tried to like Henry Cavil as an actor but he flat out sucks. If all you want is a good looking white guy to fill out a costume who has no emotional range, screen charisma, no warmth, and no charm then he's your man.
Leaving aside personaL feelings on Cavil's acting for a cheap joke, doesn't that sound EXACTLY like what you need for a faithful depiction of dude Shep? Dohoho.
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Post by Kabraxal on Feb 26, 2021 3:17:49 GMT
Actually video games were bigger before. But Hollywood was basically in a stand still for months and hell still is. As a New Yorker, I still can't go to the theater. I realize we're opening up soon,, but still. Games were able to come out and due to their nature, didn't need to worry about congregation of groups. Hollywood is hurting more now, sure, but gaming has been a bigger industry for quite a few years. In fact I think the top 3 entertainment launches and overall money making are all games. Fuck, I wouldn’t be surprised if GTAV alone dwarfs the top 5 movies ticket and dvd/br sales combined. 150 million copies sold and shark card sales? Let’s not even touch FIFA, CoD, or Assassin’s Creed. Or mobile games. Hollywood has lost that war and did so long ago.
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Post by General Mahad on Feb 26, 2021 6:29:17 GMT
seeing as the 'script' mentions Tali...who's a quarian... male Quarian squad-mate voiced by Cavill? I mean...I'd love to have some more diverse squad members next time around we got a female Turian in MEA...now I just want a female Krogan squaddie (Kesh wasn't that bad imo. but she wasn't a squaddie), male quarian or any other alien that isn't Asari, a female pilot (unless we get Kallo back, he was pretty cool) and a male ship doctor (Lexi wasn't bad, but I would've loved it if Harry had been our doc) We would have had a good opportunity with KalReegar but BioWare dropped the hammer on him in a goddamn email.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 26, 2021 10:25:56 GMT
seeing as the 'script' mentions Tali...who's a quarian... male Quarian squad-mate voiced by Cavill? I mean...I'd love to have some more diverse squad members next time around we got a female Turian in MEA...now I just want a female Krogan squaddie (Kesh wasn't that bad imo. but she wasn't a squaddie), male quarian or any other alien that isn't Asari, a female pilot (unless we get Kallo back, he was pretty cool) and a male ship doctor (Lexi wasn't bad, but I would've loved it if Harry had been our doc) We would have had a good opportunity with KalReegar but BioWare dropped the hammer on him in a goddamn email. I know I was pretty upset they killed several characters of off-screen...like Emily Wong, I'd have taken her over Diana Allers any day (at least Emily wouldn't have asked awkward questions or made awkward remarks concerning certain squad members (I still remember Allers talking about Kaidan's butt and asking if he's single...sorry lady but he's with the Commander)
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Post by Cyberstrike on Feb 26, 2021 15:14:17 GMT
I'm not crazy about Cavill, although he's okay in the Witcher. I'd rather have Scarlett Johansson or Elizabeth Olsen play Shepard. I think Cavill is probably doing something for the screen (TV or movie) rather than a game. He is waaaay too expensive to cast as a protagonist in ME:Next, although Bioware might be able to afford him playing a side character (similar to Martin Sheen). Also, some screen actors are not very good at video game acting ("Please do 47 versions of 'grunt in pain,' okay -- go!"). Sir Patrick Stewart was in some game many years ago and he was extremely wooden, despite his obvious talent on stage/screen. VA work should be given to VAs instead of blowing the budget on pricey screen actors with no experience.
The game was Oblivion and he was given a lot exposition and then his character was killed before the prologue ended and I think that was his first time doing VA (at least for a video game). He has actually gotten better at VA over the years he did the voice of the dragon in Dragonheart 4 and he was really good in that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 26, 2021 15:26:31 GMT
Anyway, Cavill got cancelled for dating Gina Carano, 10 years ago, so I guess that's that. I'm sure ResetEra will be in agreement with that.
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