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Post by colfoley on Feb 25, 2021 7:35:15 GMT
Plus with MEA being Ryder's coming into maturity story it would be nice to play 'grown up' Ryder. Ryder does become more mature by late stage of main MEA story. It is very clear that was always BioWare's plan with Ryder.
It would be tragedy for them to drop that just because of unfair backlash Ryder had, also foolish as new PC would still be compared to Shepard anyway, whom had trilogy to grow instead of just one game.
Besides Shepard also had their issues in ME 1 they hadn't quite gotten the voice acting/ writing/ RP down yet.
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The kind who romances Miranda (and/or Liara), If a series I'm personally hoping for the Kirk-approach to romance...different space babe every week. 
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Post by helios969 on Feb 25, 2021 7:42:23 GMT
I like the Cerberus takes over line. excellent. It would be great if Martin Sheen portray's TIM. Sorry to say but a bit long in the tooth. I'd vote for Mads Mikkelsen as replacement.
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Post by Fredward on Feb 25, 2021 7:42:52 GMT
Only interested if Cavill is a Kaidanmancer. 
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Post by colfoley on Feb 25, 2021 7:45:26 GMT
So on the off chance this is for an ME movie series or something similar but yet they do the smart thing and not make Cavil Shepard...who do they cast as Fem SHep?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 25, 2021 7:46:36 GMT
We're forgetting the major difference here. Mass Effect is a video game and Star Trek was/is a TV series movie. TV or movies are always going to be more accessible then video games. While video games have become more popular, Star Trek is always going to be more known then Mass Effect ever will be. Mass Effect could have been it, though. It could be everywhere. Animated shows, expanded universe books and comics, movies and TV shows. Multiple projects running at all times. Like we sorta use to get, between ME2 and ME3. Only, instead of the shit that Dietz and Mac put out, we'd get actuall good stuff, from people that knew the mediums. Like Nunzio and Christina are still trying to do for DA. We're not at where we used to be. And it all died with ME3. Lol, there's only a handful a video games that could be bigger then Star Trek. "And it all died with ME3" such a drama queen. Did you forget this a new game coming?
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Post by colfoley on Feb 25, 2021 7:47:48 GMT
Mass Effect could have been it, though. It could be everywhere. Animated shows, expanded universe books and comics, movies and TV shows. Multiple projects running at all times. Like we sorta use to get, between ME2 and ME3. Only, instead of the shit that Dietz and Mac put out, we'd get actuall good stuff, from people that knew the mediums. Like Nunzio and Christina are still trying to do for DA. We're not at where we used to be. And it all died with ME3. Lol, there's only a handful a video games that could be bigger then Star Trek. "And it all died with ME3" such a drama queen. Did you forget this a new game coming? Nah any new game is automatically doomed to failure doncha know?
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Post by helios969 on Feb 25, 2021 7:49:07 GMT
So on the off chance this is for an ME movie series or something similar but yet they do the smart thing and not make Cavil Shepard...who do they cast as Fem SHep? Gal Gadot. Hmm...hmm...hmm.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 25, 2021 7:50:17 GMT
So on the off chance this is for an ME movie series or something similar but yet they do the smart thing and not make Cavil Shepard...who do they cast as Fem SHep? Gal Gadot. Hmm...hmm...hmm. Can't really see her as a red head but other then that a most excellent suggestion.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 25, 2021 7:55:19 GMT
Gal Gadot. Hmm...hmm...hmm. Can't really see her as a red head but other then that a most excellent suggestion. Who says she has to be a red head? All my femShep's were brunettes. Something like this is made for a broader audience anyways.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 25, 2021 8:01:13 GMT
Can't really see her as a red head but other then that a most excellent suggestion. Who says she has to be a red head? All my femShep's were brunettes. Something like this is made for a broader audience anyways. True enough. I just have a difficult time for seeing Shepard as anything other than a Red head. Mine started off life as one even before that stupid official contest thing. Trouble is too any of the actors I think would work in the role would've worked once but probably wouldn't be best now...though Cobie Smulders could still work I suppose.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 8:27:32 GMT
Yea, but this is also AFTER the ME3 controversy, which left a lot of people jaded, AND with a whole new protagonist(s) AND with a bad rep before and after release. And it STILL did as good as ME2. That's not an easy feat. Anthem on the other hand.... A lot easier than you make it sound. The difference in economy, the demographic available and the sheer lies the game was sold on helped it match ME2's sales. Basically, at the time, any triple A game was guaranteed to sell 2m copies at launch. You can check back the sales records of all games available at the time. Also, regression in sales, is not considered a success for any company, especially since, according to EA's projections, the game was to sell 3-4 million copies at launch. You also, got it backwards. It was surprising that ME2 did as well as it did, at the time it was released.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 8:44:38 GMT
Lol, there's only a handful a video games that could be bigger then Star Trek. "And it all died with ME3" such a drama queen. Did you forget this a new game coming? The regression of the franchise's popularity is real. Current trajectory is downward and there is little happening to spin it out of it. The LE has already drawn ire, this news about Anthem is fresh and will leave people bitter about purchasing future Bioware products, especially in this economy, the implication with Liara in the teaser, that Shepard would be returning, which is not happening, will also cause a lot of negative noise for Bioware, there's the fact that we're still 5 years away from the game seeing any release, at best and even if this does happen, a Henry Cavill ME netflix show/movie/whatever, it's going to be Shepard and Shepard's gone. The one thing Bioware could capitalize on and they've retired it. At some point in the franchise's history, the projections were positive. It lead to comic books, novels and an animated movie. How many of those have you seen since? When I say that it's dead, I don't mean that there is not a single person interested in it. There are people that will buy anything Mass Effect still. But it's not as big as it use to be. We are not in post ME2 levels of popularity, we are hardly in pre-ME2 levels of popularity. What does the gaming audience expect out of Bioware's next title? I can tell you that while Christian is there, the next game is a solid 8/10. But that is not the public opinion.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 25, 2021 8:54:01 GMT
Lol, there's only a handful a video games that could be bigger then Star Trek. "And it all died with ME3" such a drama queen. Did you forget this a new game coming? The regression of the franchise's popularity is real. Current trajectory is downward and there is little happening to spin it out of it. The LE has already drawn ire, this news about Anthem is fresh and will leave people bitter about purchasing future Bioware products, especially in this economy, the implication with Liara in the teaser, that Shepard would be returning, which is not happening, will also cause a lot of negative noise for Bioware, there's the fact that we're still 5 years away from the game seeing any release, at best and even if this does happen, a Henry Cavill ME netflix show/movie/whatever, it's going to be Shepard and Shepard's gone. The one thing Bioware could capitalize on and they've retired it. At some point in the franchise's history, the projections were positive. It lead to comic books, novels and an animated movie. How many of those have you seen since? When I say that it's dead, I don't mean that there is not a single person interested in it. There are people that will buy anything Mass Effect still. But it's not as big as it use to be. We are not in post ME2 levels of popularity, we are hardly in pre-ME2 levels of popularity. What does the gaming audience expect out of Bioware's next title? I can tell you that while Christian is there, the next game is a solid 8/10. But that is not the public opinion. I don't know why your comparing it to Star Trek? Seems apples to oranges if you ask me.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 25, 2021 9:02:41 GMT
I don't know why your comparing it to Star Trek? Seems apples to oranges if you ask me. Let's see... A franchise about a Captain and their crew, in space, going around planets, solving mysteries in a diplomatic or action oriented way, a federation of planets, aliens on board the ship and being part of the crew, I don't know. There's some parallels here. Basically, Mass Effect could have been Star Trek for video games. Considering the Star Trek video games were never that good or successful. It could have been much bigger than it currently is. Maybe one day it will be.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 25, 2021 9:14:58 GMT
So on the off chance this is for an ME movie series or something similar but yet they do the smart thing and not make Cavil Shepard...who do they cast as Fem SHep? Hmm... Emily Blunt? Jaimie Alexander?
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Post by dazk on Feb 25, 2021 9:32:03 GMT
So on the off chance this is for an ME movie series or something similar but yet they do the smart thing and not make Cavil Shepard...who do they cast as Fem SHep? Hmm... Emily Blunt? Jaimie Alexander? Kate Beckinsale 
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 25, 2021 9:43:01 GMT
I don't know why your comparing it to Star Trek? Seems apples to oranges if you ask me. Let's see... A franchise about a Captain and their crew, in space, going around planets, solving mysteries in a diplomatic or action oriented way, a federation of planets, aliens on board the ship and being part of the crew, I don't know. There's some parallels here. Basically, Mass Effect could have been Star Trek for video games. Considering the Star Trek video games were never that good or successful. It could have been much bigger than it currently is. Maybe one day it will be. But you're using a tv series. Gaming is way more expensive then tv is. Plus, you're asking the average non-gamer to know how to use a controller? How to use the console to even get to the game? There's a lot more barriers to entry then what's needed to watch a tv series. There's a lot more people like Nate here then you probably realize. At least compare it to something like Halo or Call of Duty. 
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 25, 2021 10:00:53 GMT
Wait wait wait wait wait hold up....didn't Andromeda sell only a bit less than 3? Second best launch sales of the entire series, etc., etc. For a new protagonist and after the controversy of ME3...that is not something I would call a failure financially. And seeing that the MENext trailer and Legendary Edition trailers hap people foaming out of their mouths....Mass Effect dead? Analysts, media and EA's own finnancial call put ME:A's sales to 1.5m copies sold at launch and 2.5m copies sold in its first year. Approximately, similar to ME2. So, maybe second best, but when ME2 was released amidst the Great Recession and when the gaming medium was much smaller than what it was in 2017 and with ME:A having a budget of $100m CA, that it inches out ME2 is not a success. Not financially, at least. Context. I read somewhere the budget was 47m.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 25, 2021 10:09:06 GMT
...how in the world do you figure? What props this confidence so high? Because, ouff. -- Ryder is already established character, along with their squadmates and allies.
Along with a lot of unfinished stories related to Ryder, it would be much easier for BioWare to just continue and expand upon Ryder, instead of doing completely new PC with completely new crew.
Totally agree with you. Their intention was to continue but unfortunately they dropped it. Not to mention all the teases for them, it will be pretty stupid to be someone else. Now it's the time to redeem the game and hopefully put time and have a better management this time cause bioware now is in a very difficult position.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 25, 2021 10:10:53 GMT
I'm thinking it might be a movie or series project. He holds all these papers and it's impossible to be something about the game, it's in early development and they're not on the storyboard yet, or at least not that far.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 25, 2021 11:08:42 GMT
It looks more to me like its background reading to get into the mood of the game series... dunno if its movie or game, lets see.
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Post by jamierose95 on Feb 25, 2021 11:47:27 GMT
If you don't want to piss off maleshep and femshep fanbases just have twins lol.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 25, 2021 13:09:43 GMT
Lol, there's only a handful a video games that could be bigger then Star Trek. "And it all died with ME3" such a drama queen. Did you forget this a new game coming? The regression of the franchise's popularity is real. Current trajectory is downward and there is little happening to spin it out of it. The LE has already drawn ire, this news about Anthem is fresh and will leave people bitter about purchasing future Bioware products, especially in this economy, the implication with Liara in the teaser, that Shepard would be returning, which is not happening, will also cause a lot of negative noise for Bioware, there's the fact that we're still 5 years away from the game seeing any release, at best and even if this does happen, a Henry Cavill ME netflix show/movie/whatever, it's going to be Shepard and Shepard's gone. The one thing Bioware could capitalize on and they've retired it. At some point in the franchise's history, the projections were positive. It lead to comic books, novels and an animated movie. How many of those have you seen since? When I say that it's dead, I don't mean that there is not a single person interested in it. There are people that will buy anything Mass Effect still. But it's not as big as it use to be. We are not in post ME2 levels of popularity, we are hardly in pre-ME2 levels of popularity. What does the gaming audience expect out of Bioware's next title? I can tell you that while Christian is there, the next game is a solid 8/10. But that is not the public opinion. Welcome to franchising. In one way, I think it might be better that it's a smaller base, a lot more room to grow and expand as they have and be more positive with it. But it's shackled specifically to Shepard no matter what happens by nature of it being a trilogy about a sole character. This is partially why Andromeda was not well received; Andromeda is the Force Awakens of the franchise, playing the greatest hits without the risks instead of being a breath of fresh air. Public Opinion, especially with the jaded, cynical lot that makes up the majority of the gamers out there, is going to be negative not matter what happens. It's an Ouroboros as always...and I just hope Christian actually stays in charge and is not shaken by the reception thus far.
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 25, 2021 14:10:07 GMT
Yeah, if Cavill’s tease is about a ME tv show or movie, I have little doubt he’d play Shepard. Unless they’d create a character from scratch just for him to play, which I personally doubt. There are a very few things that would kill my mood for Mass Effect than re-telling of Shepard's story in a movie or series.
Do an original story, not an inferior adaption.
Well, he could be hired as the voice of the main game character. Voice is everything.
As to the movie comments, I don't know where this comes from... pure speculation, imo. As to a TV series, maybe Netflix is up to something. Either way, other supporting chars have to be in the "show". I wonder if we will get to see those famous butt moments? Which remnds me... which female char will be chosen to portray those glouts? ... lol
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