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Post by mattfon on Mar 8, 2021 6:13:08 GMT
I Usually play as a biotic. In MEA on the Asari ark Cora and the Asari kept talking as if I couldn't use biotics myself
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Post by ahglock on Mar 8, 2021 6:58:00 GMT
Too many options to cover with the time/budget they had. I wish they did, especially in later games when people have consistently mentioned it as something that was missing and praised the only example I can think of where they utilized this well,(engineer in Omega DLC).
But yes, not only do you have access to biotics through SAM, you may very well have picked a biotic origin.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 8, 2021 7:14:12 GMT
Samantha Traynor acknowledges a biotic Shepard when discussing the Grissom Academy students.
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Post by obbie1984 on Mar 8, 2021 8:13:28 GMT
The original trilogy seems to do it a bit more often. Kaidan mentions your biotics. But it is nowhere near the level that it is in Dragon Age games. If you are a mage or elf, you will hear about it from many characters.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 8, 2021 15:21:07 GMT
Samantha Traynor acknowledges a biotic Shepard when discussing the Grissom Academy students. Yeah a few scenes here and there, Kaiden, Samantha, the party in citadel DLC etc. But not nearly enough especially if Coras, I was persecuted oh so much for being biotic stories are true.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2021 17:26:58 GMT
My guess is because unlike in the Shepard Trilogy, MEA had a classless/fluid class system. Shepard was either always or never a biotic, while Ryder could be either at any time.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 8, 2021 19:52:21 GMT
Maybe but a if/then statement of put points into biotics to trigger something shouldn't be any harder than a class based if/then statement trigger.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Mar 8, 2021 22:32:32 GMT
Maybe but a if/then statement of put points into biotics to trigger something shouldn't be any harder than a class based if/then statement trigger. But can you consider your Ryder a biotic if you only put points into the Biotic passive talents and not any biotic powers themselves?
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Post by ahglock on Mar 8, 2021 23:14:25 GMT
Maybe but a if/then statement of put points into biotics to trigger something shouldn't be any harder than a class based if/then statement trigger. But can you consider your Ryder a biotic if you only put points into the Biotic passive talents and not any biotic powers themselves? True, they may want to put the trigger only on the active skills. Ideally you'd get different conversation triggers based on how much you put into it. I personally preferred classes to what we got in MEA but i am not wedded to it. There can be a balance between pick a class and max everything. And hopefully whatever they pick for ME:N they can integrate some reactions based on your talents.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 9, 2021 15:35:45 GMT
Because engineer BroShep banging Tali in the house you built on Rannoch is canon.
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 9, 2021 20:30:41 GMT
Would be cool if these things happened more often. I love the special scene for the engineer in the Omega DLC. But I get it, these things cost a lot of money/development resources for the very limited audience that actually gets to see that content.
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Post by Dukemon on Mar 10, 2021 0:14:42 GMT
Maybe but a if/then statement of put points into biotics to trigger something shouldn't be any harder than a class based if/then statement trigger. But can you consider your Ryder a biotic if you only put points into the Biotic passive talents and not any biotic powers themselves? Barriere is a passiv skill but means actually that Ryder has always an active Biotic Shield.
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Post by Shinobu on Mar 10, 2021 2:47:16 GMT
IIRC, during Cora's loyalty mission a biotic Ryder will feel the mass effect field used to patch the breach in the Leusinia. They mention they feel a buzzing or headache or something.
I do wish these things would come up more often, though.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Mar 10, 2021 4:43:17 GMT
People use biotics?
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Post by ahglock on Mar 10, 2021 15:20:15 GMT
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Mar 10, 2021 18:00:38 GMT
When soldinerds can vanguard charge, I might acknowledge them.
Otherwise, I've punched a harvester and an architect to death without this puny "gun". ONLY MY FISTS AND MY MIND.
Ahem. Anyway.
Vanguard is clearly the superior choice, though all are fun with the right build and attitude. I really like when the game remembers that Shepard has biotics (Mostly 3 with one line in 1), and I'll second that it was quite disappointing that Ryder's biotics weren't mentioned. Or shown. I will say I'd like to see our character cut loose with -class ability- in a cutscene once or twice. But at least they've made considerable progress in showing the gun you're actually using, so that's fun.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 10, 2021 18:20:30 GMT
When soldinerds can vanguard charge, I might acknowledge them. Otherwise, I've punched a harvester and an architect to death without this puny "gun". ONLY MY FISTS AND MY MIND. Ahem. Anyway. Vanguard is clearly the superior choice, though all are fun with the right build and attitude. I really like when the game remembers that Shepard has biotics (Mostly 3 with one line in 1), and I'll second that it was quite disappointing that Ryder's biotics weren't mentioned. Or shown. I will say I'd like to see our character cut loose with -class ability- in a cutscene once or twice. But at least they've made considerable progress in showing the gun you're actually using, so that's fun. One of the areas where I especially thought it was weird in MEA was habitat 7, I was tossing around biotics left and right. We eventually show up at to meet Cora and Liam is whaaaa you are a biotic... and you stand there like a dumb ass and don't do anything to help with the barrier.Edit to add, twice you also don;t do anything with the barrier in her loyalty mission)
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Post by sageoflife on Mar 14, 2021 6:50:04 GMT
It is admittedly a lot of extra variables to account for, but considering biotics in non-asari species require in-utero exposure to eezo and Ellen Ryder died from repeated eezo exposures, not acknowledging Ryder's biotics just leads to a ton of wasted story potential.
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Post by andydandymandy on Mar 14, 2021 17:56:20 GMT
Is Ryder really a biotic? They have an AI in their head that allows the player to completely reset their entire skill set. There is no class system in the game, just a "profile system" that allows you to pick three things from everything to map to your controller. The gameplay for Andromeda for Ryder is mostly divorced from the narrative, because you can have Ryder go from having biotic abilities to not having biotic abilities on a whelm. That doesn't really give the developers a lot of room to acknowledge Ryder's abilities in cutscenes or banter or the story because there is no class system in the game at all, the player can change their entire skill set on a whelm, so how can you have other characters in the game talk to you about your biotic abilities when you can make your Ryder a non-biotic with a re-spec?
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Post by sageoflife on Mar 14, 2021 21:46:15 GMT
Ryder can have biotics prior to becoming Pathfinder. The developers could have added a flag for players who chose one of the three backgrounds that correspond to the three classic biotic classes.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 14, 2021 23:30:29 GMT
The MET had so many biotics in them that it makes a biotic Shepard seem redundant to the point of being an after thought and it seems like the devs seem to forget who is a biotic unless it's being a biotic is tied to into the character's identity.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Mar 15, 2021 1:55:11 GMT
Ryder can have biotics prior to becoming Pathfinder. The developers could have added a flag for players who chose one of the three backgrounds that correspond to the three classic biotic classes. And then you respec your talent points, putting them all into Tech and/or Combat, meaning you are no longer a biotic.
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Post by sageoflife on Mar 15, 2021 3:59:33 GMT
Ryder can have biotics prior to becoming Pathfinder. The developers could have added a flag for players who chose one of the three backgrounds that correspond to the three classic biotic classes. And then you respec your talent points, putting them all into Tech and/or Combat, meaning you are no longer a biotic. So just restrict the event flag to Ryder's background.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Mar 15, 2021 13:17:44 GMT
And then you respec your talent points, putting them all into Tech and/or Combat, meaning you are no longer a biotic. So just restrict the event flag to Ryder's background. Ryder's background is "Peacekeeper". Do you mean current profile (such as Adept)? The initial choice at the beginning of the game is just a way to select your starting power. You can spec out of it later. I have done it before.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 15, 2021 14:25:31 GMT
Ryder can have biotics prior to becoming Pathfinder. The developers could have added a flag for players who chose one of the three backgrounds that correspond to the three classic biotic classes. And then you respec your talent points, putting them all into Tech and/or Combat, meaning you are no longer a biotic. He can untrain them yes. But he is genetically biotic if he took those starting trainings that include biotics. Technically he always is because before you get SAM you level up and can spend points in biotics. So he is always a biotic, whether he has trained them enough to use them is the question.
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