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Post by sageoflife on Mar 15, 2021 20:33:44 GMT
So just restrict the event flag to Ryder's background. Ryder's background is "Peacekeeper". Do you mean current profile (such as Adept)? The initial choice at the beginning of the game is just a way to select your starting power. You can spec out of it later. I have done it before. Ryder has six training backgrounds that determine their starting powers and correspond to the six original classes. An event flag could have been added to this choice to determine whether the script acknowledges Ryder's biotics. Security, Technician, and Operative correspond to Soldier, Engineer, and Infiltrator respectively, so choosing one of those would mean no acknowledgement of Ryder's biotics. Biotic, Leader, and Scrapper correspond to Adept, Sentinel, and Vanguard respectively, so choosing one of those would mean that Ryder would be recognized as a biotic in-story. Speccing out of that choice would simply be Gameplay-Story Segregation.
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Post by jrpN7 on Mar 16, 2021 15:10:22 GMT
Won't lie, I do wish sometimes squaddies would fangirl when I utilize charge as a Vanguard.  because let's be real. That biotic move is siiiick |
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Mar 16, 2021 16:13:20 GMT
Won't lie, I do wish sometimes squaddies would fangirl when I utilize charge as a Vanguard. because let's be real. That biotic move is siiiick "Chicks dig charge."
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Post by jrpN7 on Mar 16, 2021 19:15:44 GMT
Won't lie, I do wish sometimes squaddies would fangirl when I utilize charge as a Vanguard. because let's be real. That biotic move is siiiick "Chicks dig charge." *charges into view*  All the chicks n' dicks come runnin' for dis *charges out of view*
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 16, 2021 19:29:35 GMT
So just restrict the event flag to Ryder's background. Ryder's background is "Peacekeeper". Do you mean current profile (such as Adept)? The initial choice at the beginning of the game is just a way to select your starting power. You can spec out of it later. I have done it before. Pretty sure the twins have different backgrounds. If I recall, Sara was part of Prothean digs.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 16, 2021 20:37:20 GMT
Ryder's background is "Peacekeeper". Do you mean current profile (such as Adept)? The initial choice at the beginning of the game is just a way to select your starting power. You can spec out of it later. I have done it before. Pretty sure the twins have different backgrounds. If I recall, Sara was part of Prothean digs. Correct. Sara was a part of an Alliance peacekeeping force that helped guard and research Prothean digs, while Scott was stationed as part of the Alliance crew that watched over the Arcturus Mass Relay. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 16, 2021 20:39:41 GMT
I Usually play as a biotic. In MEA on the Asari ark Cora and the Asari kept talking as if I couldn't use biotics myself One possibility is that Shepard is a well-known person. In the early days of his/her career it might have been something talked about. Five or six years later, after Akuze/Elysium/Torfan, no one cares anymore.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2021 20:50:40 GMT
Pretty sure the twins have different backgrounds. If I recall, Sara was part of Prothean digs. Correct. Sara was a part of an Alliance peacekeeping force that helped guard and research Prothean digs, while Scott was stationed as part of the Alliance crew that watched over the Arcturus Mass Relay. Both involving security. Meaning they forgot about that when they failed to scan the robot for foreign objects and leaving the ship unlocked for the stowaway's girlfriend to get on the ship to take the robot. Yep. Whatever training and experience they got from their time in the military went in one ear and out the other. Maybe that's what the Alliance and father Ryder taught the kids. It would explain a couple of things in the trilogy.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 16, 2021 20:52:47 GMT
Correct. Sara was a part of an Alliance peacekeeping force that helped guard and research Prothean digs, while Scott was stationed as part of the Alliance crew that watched over the Arcturus Mass Relay. Both involving security. Meaning they forgot about that when they failed to scan the robot for foreign objects and leaving the ship unlocked for the stowaway's girlfriend to get on the ship to take the robot. Yep. Whatever training and experience they got from their time in the military went in one ear and out the other. Maybe that's what the Alliance and father Ryder taught the kids. It would explain a couple of things in the trilogy. First, has nothing to do with the topic. Second, already proved Shepard was worse at your complaints about Ryder. Now be on topic or don’t post. |
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2021 20:57:29 GMT
Both involving security. Meaning they forgot about that when they failed to scan the robot for foreign objects and leaving the ship unlocked for the stowaway's girlfriend to get on the ship to take the robot. Yep. Whatever training and experience they got from their time in the military went in one ear and out the other. Maybe that's what the Alliance and father Ryder taught the kids. It would explain a couple of things in the trilogy. First, has nothing to do with the topic. Second, already proved Shepard was worse at your complaints about Ryder. Now be on topic or don’t post. It does have to do with the topic. Both of their backgrounds involve security. You have a problem because you can't admit little Ryder ****ed up. Proved worst? Did Shepard leave the ship unlocked for an intruder to steal something? Did Shepard fail to scan a robot? I am on topic. Don't agree, don't post.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 17, 2021 1:17:18 GMT
Correct. Sara was a part of an Alliance peacekeeping force that helped guard and research Prothean digs, while Scott was stationed as part of the Alliance crew that watched over the Arcturus Mass Relay. Both involving security. Meaning they forgot about that when they failed to scan the robot for foreign objects and leaving the ship unlocked for the stowaway's girlfriend to get on the ship to take the robot. Yep. Whatever training and experience they got from their time in the military went in one ear and out the other. Maybe that's what the Alliance and father Ryder taught the kids. It would explain a couple of things in the trilogy. Liked, mainly because you bringing this up has become a running gag at this point.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 17, 2021 10:52:57 GMT
I Usually play as a biotic. In MEA on the Asari ark Cora and the Asari kept talking as if I couldn't use biotics myself Like all things in science fiction franchises -there is going to biological oversight. But in this case its a technical biological oversight through dialog that was truly never fleshed out.
Though it could be looked at this way in lore: If in MEA maybe the AI-SAM causes electro-chemical interference which leads to them to see Ryder as a non-biotic.
Likewise in both MEA & MET those who don't see S/R as biotic and are biotic could be suffering from something... Lets call it: biotic sense blindness. Where their own biotics blinds them to sensing someone else who also uses biotics. Kind of akin the physic sensing of ones own species being canceled by a signal in Doctor Who -Tennant era:
Though the opposite is also true of those who know S/R well enough or have been told he/she is biotic.
Or like every other NPC in all the ME games being blind as a bat trying to make sushi when it comes to seeing a person use biotics. 
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Post by sassafrassa on Apr 29, 2021 2:53:24 GMT
As other have said it is a time/budget thing. It's one of the reasons I sometimes think Mass Effect would better if Shepard's class was not selectable by the player. Sheparding being locked in as a soldier would make sense and fit thematically with the style of the games; you win by cooperating with others and need other people to cover your weaknesses, who synergize with you.
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 30, 2021 16:18:58 GMT
As other have said it is a time/budget thing. It's one of the reasons I sometimes think Mass Effect would better if Shepard's class was not selectable by the player. Sheparding being locked in as a soldier would make sense and fit thematically with the style of the games; you win by cooperating with others and need other people to cover your weaknesses, who synergize with you. Disagree how it is handled is fine , I think the openness to selection is great and limiting it because a few people can’t accept time/budget limitations on choice reactivity would be wrong.
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Post by sassafrassa on Apr 30, 2021 17:30:13 GMT
As other have said it is a time/budget thing. It's one of the reasons I sometimes think Mass Effect would better if Shepard's class was not selectable by the player. Sheparding being locked in as a soldier would make sense and fit thematically with the style of the games; you win by cooperating with others and need other people to cover your weaknesses, who synergize with you. Disagree how it is handled is fine , I think the openness to selection is great and limiting it because a few people can’t accept time/budget limitations on choice reactivity would be wrong. That's reasonable and ultimately I don't think it's a big problem either. However I think what I suggested would have been an equally viable alternative, especially if they had kept in the mechanic present in early builds of the game that let you play as your squadmates in combat.
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Post by michaeln7 on May 12, 2021 2:12:43 GMT
I Usually play as a biotic. In MEA on the Asari ark Cora and the Asari kept talking as if I couldn't use biotics myself One possibility is that Shepard is a well-known person. In the early days of his/her career it might have been something talked about. Five or six years later, after Akuze/Elysium/Torfan, no one cares anymore. It's worth noting that biotics can manifest "late" due to eezo exposure in early adulthood, which if I'm not mistaken, is what Shepard's (potential) biotics are. It certainly makes a "War Hero" background more exciting as a Vanguard. |
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Post by michaeln7 on May 12, 2021 2:51:50 GMT
IMO, it probably has more to do with dialogue 'flags' than anything.
That, and since 3 out of 6 classes don't get biotics to start, it could've led to Soldier/Infiltrator/Engineer players complaining about being left behind in "special" dialogue.
Personally, I don't think it would've been too difficult to have a line or two devoted to each class, even if it's just for flavor:
"My gun keeps jamming, could you take a look?"
"What kind of scope do you use?"
"Hey, maybe you could take a look at my omni-tool?"
"Does your implant give you migraines?"
"How do you coordinate your omni-tool with your biotics?"
"I'll bet it's something else, zooming around a combat zone!"
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