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Post by Buckeldemon on May 5, 2021 18:19:17 GMT
Wynne - Wasn't she around 49 in DAO? Still apt though I think. Vivienne - does anyone know how old she acutally is? I have no idea.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 5, 2021 20:37:10 GMT
Vivienne - does anyone know how old she acutally is? I have no idea. She was transferred from Ostwick to Montsimmard Circle as a fully fledged Enchanter at the age of 19. Shortly after she attended the Wintersend Ball where she met Bastien. That was in 9:16. So when we first meet her in 9:41 she would be 44.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 5, 2021 20:45:29 GMT
Wynne - Wasn't she around 49 in DAO? I covered this over on the Wynne thread. As she was around 20-21 when she had Rhys and he was said to be around 40 years of age in Asunder, which took place in 9:40, that would have made her around 60 then and so 50 when we meet her in DAO. That is relatively middle aged by our standards but considered old in a medieval setting, although it may be different in Thedas.
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Post by adonniel on May 5, 2021 22:03:37 GMT
sexy charismatic Teagan of DAO, who would be around 39/40 when we meet him, or the grumpy, ungracious Teagan of Trespasser who by then would be around 54. So if he is being included in the Golden Oldies category, it should be made clear we are talking about the latter version Absolutely, I've specifically added his title as the Arl and not Bann to indicate his grumpier version. In DAO he is young and woooof, but cannot compete in the golden oldies category. I believe you may be thinking of Prosper de Monfort, Cyril's father, Adonniel. The villain in the Mark of the Assassin. He is the cousin of Celene's mom. Maybe got the name wrong. She was transferred from Ostwick to Montsimmard Circle as a fully fledged Enchanter at the age of 19. Shortly after she attended the Wintersend Ball where she met Bastien. That was in 9:16. So when we first meet her in 9:41 she would be 44. She's only 44? I wandered about her because the demon taunted her about her age, plus all that grand enchanter stuff and the elixir she fed Bastien. Figured that put her over 50, but I guess not.
On that list, I'm probably most interested in and least sure of Stroud, given how he probably qualifies for one of the top spots. I'm more inclined to think he's somewhere in his 40s in Inquisition.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on May 6, 2021 4:14:36 GMT
Strife is 50+ right? That silver haired elf from TN and the da day short story could go on the list.
Was surprised to find Celene is only 40 when I checked. For some reason I thought she was a little older.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 6, 2021 13:22:57 GMT
Isabela......I miss the feature that Mike laidlaw jokingly rferred to as "the vanity cam" where you could position the camera angle right behind your controlled character's (FemHawke, Isabela etc) butt and watch her hips sway from side to side. As the saying goes....."That's not a hard ass to follow"
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Post by gervaise21 on May 6, 2021 16:52:22 GMT
She's only 44? I wandered about her because the demon taunted her about her age, plus all that grand enchanter stuff and the elixir she fed Bastien. Figured that put her over 50, but I guess not. Well I am assuming that the Wintersend Ball she attended was only shortly after being transferred to Montsimmard but if the one she attended wasn't until some years after that, she could have been in her twenties when she met Bastien. In which case, by the time of Trespasser she could have been over 50 and thus qualifies for inclusion. Bastien was many years older than her. It says he had to give up the life of a bard that he had been living in order to take up his duties as Duke of Ghislain in 8:96, so it would be twenty years later that he met Vivienne at the Wintersend Ball. Even if he only became Duke in his late teens, that would put him close to 40 when they became lovers and in his mid 60's by the time of DAI, but he could have been over 70. On that list, I'm probably most interested in and least sure of Stroud, given how he probably qualifies for one of the top spots. I'm more inclined to think he's somewhere in his 40s in Inquisition. How old Stroud is depends on how old you think Clarel is, as according to WoT2 it was she who recruited him to the Wardens. This was not long after he finished his training as a Chevalier, on the advice of his trainers because they did not wish him to throw his life away seeking vengeance in the Great Game for the death of his parents. Again, it depends on how many years are spent at the Academie, but I would think training would finish in your early twenties. He was then said to have spent decades honourably serving the Wardens, so at least 2, which would put him in his early 40s, or 3, who would put him in his fifties. I seem to recall that hearing the Calling might not have been so odd for him as he was nearing the age when most Wardens do, which I seem to recall is 50+. So he would probably squeak in as a qualifier.
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Post by Beerfish on May 9, 2021 2:23:27 GMT
Mhari....but stoopid Bioware killed her off.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 9, 2021 20:28:57 GMT
Mhari....but stoopid Bioware killed her off. I made her live by making her an Inquisitor (same VA).
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Post by gervaise21 on May 10, 2021 7:08:54 GMT
It has just occurred to me that if we are talking about Sexiest "No Spring Chicken", shouldn't you be including: Corypheus, The Architect, Flemeth and Solas?
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Post by adonniel on May 10, 2021 21:57:08 GMT
Corypheus, The Architect, Flemeth and Solas? I've been wandering about that one and whether the souls or the old Gods or the first darkspawn are applicable. When it comes to Solas specifically, I guess his soul is ancient, but the physical body it currently occupies is quite young. Flemeth isn't young physically, but she's also a dragon, thus, it's a mysterious cause like Flemeth herself. Except Vivi, I don't believe anyone stated protest about other characters being too young. I'll try to get around to forming the contest brackets sometimes this week.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 11, 2021 17:51:21 GMT
When it comes to Solas specifically, I guess his soul is ancient, but the physical body it currently occupies is quite young. No, I think he just wears extremely well. If I understand correctly, before the Veil the elves didn't age as such, they just grew weary with life over time, which is when they elected to go into Uthenera. So at the point Solas raised the Veil he was already several thousand years old, although he didn't look it. Then immediately after raising the Veil he dropped into Uthenera, which stopped him aging physically, but the moment he came out of it he would have started aging but since even in Trespasser it was only 5 years after he woke up, he isn't showing it yet. Hence the youthful looking but several thousand years old elf.
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Post by adonniel on Jun 5, 2021 0:05:07 GMT
It has certainly taken a while! The Sexiest No Spring Chicken category is officially open!
Since surveys have been taken in advance, no one else will be added to the list in the later rounds. Best of luck to your favourites! Round 1 + Vote for the one you wish to advance in each group. + Top two in each group advance. Group ADuke de Montfort Elthina Leandra Bann Esmerelle (awakening) Group BBodahn Abelas Stroud Orsino Group CGamlen Merethari Wynne Warden Commander Clarel Group D Rendon Howe Meredith Arl Teagan Marjolaine Group EGreagoir Seneschal Varel Harrowmont Halward Pavus Group FLoghain Gaspard Gereon Alexius Solas Group GEndrin Aeducan Bryce Cousland Cyrion Tabris Arl Eamon Group HMythal Flemeth Emeric Eleanor Cousland Fiona Group IIrving Avernus Sister Theohild (best chant of light!) Brother Genitivi Group JViscount Marlow Dumar Barlin Blacksmith Owen Murdock Group KVarathorn Master Dennet Chancellor Roderick Zathrian Group KUldrid Lucius Corin Otto Alric Stinky Old Cheese Group L This shall be decided first round! Duncan Riordan
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Post by seven on Jun 5, 2021 0:17:37 GMT
Group A Leandra
Group B Abelas
Group C Merethari
Group D Arl Teagan
Group E Halward Pavus
Group F Loghain
Group G Bryce Cousland
Group H Mythal
Group I Sister Theohild (best chant of light!)
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 5, 2021 7:42:47 GMT
Group A: Leandra Group B: Orsino (I'm ignoring what they did to him at the end Act 3 of DA2, which was particularly stupid if you allied with him.) Group C: Wynne (At least her noble sacrifice wasn't done out of stupidity) Group D: Arl Teagan (He may be an ungrateful turd in Tespasser but he isn't actually evil) Group E: Greagoir (A genuinely decent Templar; it is a pity the poor guy got blown up without ever knowing his son) Group F: Gaspard (He hasn't actually sold anyone into slavery to fund his army; kept slaves or was planning on destroying the world) Group G: Bryce Cousland Group H: Eleanor Cousland (unless you meant the lady who emerged out of the Well of Sorrows, in which case: Mythal) Group I: Brother Genitivi (alias the Randy Dowager) Group J: Murdock Group K: Master Dennet (he breeds horses, a man after my own heart) Group L: Stinky Old Cheese Group M: Riordan
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Post by adonniel on Jun 5, 2021 14:10:33 GMT
Group E: Greagoir (A genuinely decent Templar; it is a pity the poor guy got blown up without ever knowing his son) Wait whaaaaat? We're talking Greagoir from the Tower of Magi right? How did he get blown up? D: Oh dear, your comments make it sound like that generation was entirely evil. Eleanor Cousland (unless you meant the lady who emerged out of the Well of Sorrows, in which case: Mythal) Warden's mother. Group K: Master Dennet (he breeds horses, a man after my own heart)
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Post by Liadan on Jun 5, 2021 14:58:49 GMT
Group A Leandra Group B Bodahn (because dwarves deserve some love too ) Group C Wynne Group D Arl Teagan (i assume this is old Teagan and not sexy DAO Teagan? Even if that`s the case he`s still a nicer person than the others in this group so he gets my vote) Group E Greagoir Group F Solas Group G Cyrion Tabris Group H Fiona Group I Brother Genitivi Group J Murdock Group K Master Dennet Group K Stinky Old Cheese (Alistair aproves ) Group L This shall be decided first round! Duncan
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Post by roselavellan on Jun 5, 2021 15:16:49 GMT
A: Leandra B: Abelas C: Wynne D: Arl Teagan, I guess. E. Halward Pavus F. Solas G: Don't remember them. Abstaining. H. Mythal I. Brother Genitivi J. Don't remember them. Abstaining. K. Zathrian L. Stinky Old Cheese M. Duncan
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Post by adonniel on Jun 5, 2021 16:06:04 GMT
(i assume this is old Teagan and not sexy DAO Teagan? Yep, the withered and bittered version. I'm surprised no one is voting for Varel.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jun 5, 2021 16:57:24 GMT
Group ALeandra Group BAbelas Group CGamlen Group DArl Teagan Group ESeneschal Varel Group FLoghain (honorable mention to Solas)
Group GBryce Cousland (it was a tie between him and papa Tabris) Group HEmeric Group ISister Theohild (best chant of light!) Group JMurdock Group KVarathorn Group KLucius Corin Group L This shall be decided first round! Duncan
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jun 5, 2021 16:57:52 GMT
(i assume this is old Teagan and not sexy DAO Teagan? Yep, the withered and bittered version. I'm surprised no one is voting for Varel. you were saying?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 5, 2021 17:30:48 GMT
Wait whaaaaat? We're talking Greagoir from the Tower of Magi right? How did he get blown up? D: I think the general assumption is that if a Templar we knew from previously wasn't seen in DAI, then they probably either died in the war or at the Conclave. As Greagoir seemed like the sort of Templar who would be willing to attend the talks and would have been one of the senior members of the order, he would have been at the Conclave. So sadly he went kaboom. I know who Eleanor Cousland is; that's why I voted for her. I was referring to which aspect of Mythal we are meant to be voting for; whilst the game files apparently called that water lady "Flemeth nude", that was probably just so those working on the game who weren't up to speed with Flemeth's alter ego didn't get confused. After all, they confuse easily since apparently they got muddled by Qun and Qarinus, even though they are pronounced totally differently, simply both begin with the letter "Q". I thought the water lady looked great but I suppose as a spirit they don't really count for this competition.
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Post by adonniel on Jun 5, 2021 20:44:31 GMT
Yep, the withered and bittered version. I'm surprised no one is voting for Varel. you were saying? About time! It's way too early to wave farewell to that sarcastic silver fox.
I know who Eleanor Cousland is; that's why I voted for her. I was referring to which aspect of Mythal we are meant to be voting for; whilst the game files apparently called that water lady "Flemeth nude", that was probably just so those working on the game who weren't up to speed with Flemeth's alter ego didn't get confused. After all, they confuse easily since apparently they got muddled by Qun and Qarinus, even though they are pronounced totally differently, simply both begin with the letter "Q". I thought the water lady looked great but I suppose as a spirit they don't really count for this competition.
You've lost me. And idk what Cousland have to do with Flemeth.
I was referring to Flemeth's human form in DA2 or DAI. ..
Edit: Oh wait... I get it. I called Flemeth as Mythal on my list for idk which reason. That's a typo I guess. I guess she was last seen at Mythal temple and for some reason my brain backtracked that way.
I think the general assumption is that if a Templar we knew from previously wasn't seen in DAI, then they probably either died in the war or at the Conclave. As Greagoir seemed like the sort of Templar who would be willing to attend the talks and would have been one of the senior members of the order, he would have been at the Conclave. So sadly he went kaboom.
I feel like this version is unrealistic. That would mean every single Templar in the world was there. What was that conclave, a giant black hole to accommodate so many ppl? I always thought only top members of all the interested parties were present, not every single person. At least if the Templars sent someone senior from that region, it would be from Denerim, not from some tower on the outskirts. When abominations went amock, Greagoir sent for permission/help to Denerim, so, it seemed their bosses and HQ were there and he wasn't the main person.
Besides, maybe he retired before the kaboom. He was old enough and it's ten years later.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 5, 2021 21:12:12 GMT
I always thought only top members of all the interested parties were present, not every single person. Greagoir was a top person though and more likely to have been one of those willing to attend. I've mislaid my copy of Asunder where the whole thing kicked off but essentially Lambert called together the various Knight-Commanders and then bullied them into agreeing to the order breaking with Chantry (well it says he bullied those ones who didn't immediately agree with him). Now I seem to recall that Irving died in the fighting at the White Spire or shortly after but that means if he was around then I'm pretty sure Greagoir must have been as well, since he struck me as younger than Irving. Then again, he must have been around Wynne's age and thus you could be right about retirement because old Templars tend to go senile at a younger age than most ordinary citizens because of the lyrium addiction destroying their minds. So maybe he was just spending his declining years at the Chantry in Denerim and thus had a "lucky" escape, if you can call it that when living with a mind addled by lyrium. I had a degree of sympathy for the plight of the Templars when playing DAO because of what the lyrium does to their minds and the fact that at the time Alistair suspected it wasn't even necessary to do their job but the Chantry deliberately made them addicted in order to control them. Bearing in mind that Cullen was able to break his habit with our help and Seekers don't need lyrium to do their job, just a helpful faith spirit, I think Alistair was right.
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Post by adonniel on Jun 5, 2021 22:13:24 GMT
Greagoir was a top person though How top though? I figured in Ferelden, the higher level authority would be considered Knight Commander of Denerim. Now I seem to recall that Irving died in the fighting at the White Spire or shortly after but that means if he was around then I'm pretty sure Greagoir must have been as well, At the very least this shows they were involved. Irving didn't have the option to retire as a mage since it's not a job like a templar. It's a bummer to hear he didn't get a chance to spend the rest of his days peacefully since it took AD for provoke him into fighting and I'm pretty sure he didn't want to fight at all, age and morality wise. Must have been a mess on AD scale of poo hitting the fan. (well it says he bullied those ones who didn't immediately agree with him I have a new theory. Greagoir obviously didn't agree with him, so, Lambert forced him to retire hence one of the bullying means is threatening the job (and in KC place Labert put a real AD ass who got blown up at the conclave). And Greagoir's brain doesn't get muddled. I'm going to stick with this official plot.
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