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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 14, 2021 21:02:15 GMT
Yeah, why not? It's Merrill, being naïve and credulous is her strong suit. And she is also too Dalish to join forces with Fen´Harel / Solas. Also tell me why DA 4 need more Merrill drama? If Merrill joins Solas what do you expect to happen? Of course we have to kill Merrill and so no just no to this idea.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2021 21:19:53 GMT
So joining him? Something completely against her character considering he is the devil of her religion and she has multiple conversations about not trusting Fen’Harel even before being warned by Varric? Yeah, why not? It's Merrill, being naïve and credulous is her strong suit. Except Merrill wasn't naïve or credulous about these things.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 14, 2021 21:31:30 GMT
Except Merrill wasn't naïve or credulous about these things. Exactly. I find absurd that Merrill is even considered to be character to join Solas. Who is next Fenris, Zevran or even Sera?!?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2021 21:37:08 GMT
Except Merrill wasn't naïve or credulous about these things. Exactly. I find absurd that Merrill is even considered to be character to join Solas. Who is next Fenris, Zevran or even Sera?!? Yeah. The only elven companion we've had that I could ever see even considering to join Solas is Velanna due to his promise to restore the elves, and even she could have some hesitation or concerns. All the others are both opposed to parts or all of his views and/or care too much for the non-elven people in their lives.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 14, 2021 21:42:45 GMT
Exactly. I find absurd that Merrill is even considered to be character to join Solas. Who is next Fenris, Zevran or even Sera?!? Yeah. The only elven companion we've had that I could ever see even considering to join Solas is Velanna due to his promise to restore the elves, and even she could have some hesitation or concerns. All the others are both opposed to parts or all of his views and/or care too much for the non-elven people in their lives. Alright, I completely forgot about how much Merrill hates The Dread Wolf, the Satan of her religion. (It's been a year since I played DA2) But let's rethink the prospect: how about Merrill following after Solas in order to stop him but then gets tricked by his agents and has to end working for Solas? Now that's in character for her!
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 14, 2021 21:49:15 GMT
Yeah. The only elven companion we've had that I could ever see even considering to join Solas is Velanna due to his promise to restore the elves, and even she could have some hesitation or concerns. It would make more sense than the others but for me Velanna is too associated with the Architect and her sister Serani story and therefore it seems weird to see Velanna story bit connected with Solas instead.
Maybe Sketch who could be agents of Fen´Harel? It is possible that Sketch is not his true name, and implied in a letter from Leliana asking for his aid that Sketch may have formerly been a slave, as well as originally placed in Orlais by a mysterious effort to seed its borders with hidden agents.
And Ariane? Possible but what´s the point also without Finn is quite boring so unlikely.
But let's rethink the prospect: how about Merrill following after Solas in order to stop him but then gets tricked by his agents and has to end working for Solas? Now that's in character for her! Why do you want to have this storyline for Merrill?!? Don´t you have enough Merrill drama? Or do you simply want to kill her?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2021 21:53:00 GMT
Yeah. The only elven companion we've had that I could ever see even considering to join Solas is Velanna due to his promise to restore the elves, and even she could have some hesitation or concerns. It would make more sense than the others but for me Velanna is too associated with the Architect and her sister Serani story and therefore it seems weird to see Velanna story bit connected with Solas instead.
Maybe Sketch who could be agents of Fen´Harel? It is possible that Sketch is not his true name, and implied in a letter from Leliana asking for his aid that Sketch may have formerly been a slave, as well as originally placed in Orlais by a mysterious effort to seed its borders with hidden agents.
And Ariane? Possible but what´s the point also without Finn is quite boring so unlikely.
Her sister and her connection to the Blight are reasons why I could see her connected to Solas, since he hates the Blight and many theorize that's why he is doing what he is doing. So if he rids the world of Blight, thus saving her sister Serani, and promises to restore the elves to greatness she would join. Again the only hesitation being the fate of her non-elven friends (that's also why Ariane is a question mark due to her attachment to Finn). Fair about Sketch but I was only really referring to main companions (Zevran, Velanna, Merrill, Fenris, Tallis, Sera).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 14, 2021 21:55:24 GMT
Yeah. The only elven companion we've had that I could ever see even considering to join Solas is Velanna due to his promise to restore the elves, and even she could have some hesitation or concerns. All the others are both opposed to parts or all of his views and/or care too much for the non-elven people in their lives. Alright, I completely forgot about how much Merrill hates The Dread Wolf, the Satan of her religion. (It's been a year since I played DA2) But let's rethink the prospect: how about Merrill following after Solas in order to stop him but then gets tricked by his agents and has to end working for Solas? Now that's in character for her! I doubt Merrill would serve as a double agent for the protagonists against Solas. If she was involved, I see her most likely helping research ways to stop him.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 14, 2021 22:00:47 GMT
Ideally no one. I'd rather meet new people. Hopefully they will come up with new companions that can carry the storyline instead of having old ones return as crutches. And what about known characters who weren´t previous companions? Like DAO Isabela, DAO Merrill (i know she was a temp companion in Dalish origin but this doesn´t count) and DA 2 Cassandra who were made into full flesh out companions? I have no problems with those since I don't have to pretend to get to know them all over again and they didn't have their time in the spotlight yet. That said, I can't think of any such character that I'd want in DA4, so I'm back at "ideally no one".
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 14, 2021 22:03:27 GMT
Her sister and her connection to the Blight are reasons why I could see her connected to Solas, since he hates the Blight and many theorize that's why he is doing what he is doing. So if he rids the world of Blight, thus saving her sister Serani, and promises to restore the elves to greatness she would join. Of course this is still possible but if Architect plays a bigger role in the DA 4 Weisshaupt plot its more likely that Velanna will show up there. But to be honest i don´t have the feeling that Velanna will be in DA 4. Of course. I have almost forgotten Tallis. And no way that Tallis (or Gatt) will join Solas she is too Qunari to do that.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 14, 2021 22:05:53 GMT
That said, I can't think of any such character that I'd want in DA4, so I'm back at "ideally no one". No interessed in Harding, Calpernia or an Adult Bevin as possible DA 4 companions?
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 14, 2021 22:11:08 GMT
To be honest I have found the DA2 cast to be by far the weakest (and craziest, and most flat out annoying) of the Bioware games, I do not want to see any of them ever again.
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Post by lk13 on Mar 14, 2021 22:25:30 GMT
Hawke is probably going to rest for the rest of their days... one way (in Kirkwall) or another (in the Fade). Though, if Hawke is alive and (as it seems) Varric hangs around in DA4, I wouldn't be surprised if he appointed Hawke Provisional Viscount of Kirkwall while he's out with us. Varric seems to be returning... well, I love him, but I think I'd rather have him as some sort of advisor rather than occupying a companion slot. Also, I bet we'll see some "This Shit is Weird: The Inquisitor [X]'s Story" as codex entries Fenris seems to make the most sense out of all the companions for the setting... thing is, the comics seem to deal with his personal problems already, so I don't know exactly what kind of personal plotline he should have... though, I'd be interested in seeing another lyrium-infused person in the team, just so we can explore the concept more in the game. It'd make for interesting gameplay too, I think. Merrill - now she's the one I'd be most intrigued on seeing. Really, I'd just love to see a more... "mature" Merrill and hear her take on the whole Solas\Elvhen restoration\Evanuris plotline. Unfortunately I don't think she'll be back, but I'm sure we'll hear of her in some form. Isabela was in one of the concept arts, if I remember correctly? I think we will see her, but I seriously doubt she'll be a companion. What if she's some sort of "advisor" for missions related to piracy\treasure-hunting and such? Aveline - as Varric would say, Kirkwall would crumble before Aveline quit her job, so... probably close to 0 chances of ever seeing her again, unless we ever return to Kirkwall. Anders is complicated... part of me would think that him finding refuge in Tevinter, living a life of a wanted terrorist in the South, is intriguing. Thing is, though, if Justice\Vengeance already had such an influence on him by the end of DA2, I fear years down the line we may find him as some sort of empty shell of himself, completely at the mercy of the spirit. If he's in the game, it's going to be a very small cameo, maybe in one or two sidequests or so. Bethany\Carver - the only way I can see them in the game is if they're Grey Wardens and we find them at Weisshaupt. It'd work, but I still find it highly unlikely we'll see them. (part of me secretly wants to see a Warden Carver\Bethany having met the Hero of Ferelden and either gushing over them or being scared witless by them, but that's just my little senseless dream ) Sebastian - 99% sure we won't see him in the game... but it'd be interesting to hear more about what's he doing in Starkhaven.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 14, 2021 22:27:03 GMT
That said, I can't think of any such character that I'd want in DA4, so I'm back at "ideally no one". No interessed in Harding, Calpernia or an Adult Bevin as possible DA 4 companions? Not that much, no. Harding deserves some peace and quiet, Calpernia I didn't find that interesting and Bevin was a kid in a side quest with a few lines of epilogue text if I remember correctly. All of them will be strangers to the new protagonist anyway. For me personally, returning companions only really make sense with a returning protagonist.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 15, 2021 16:45:34 GMT
I could see Fenris returning for a questline or smth, and maybe Admiral Isabela makes a cameo if we do any seafaring. But on the whole, I want new companions to get to know and not Hawke's ride or die crew lol.
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Post by fylimar on Mar 18, 2021 10:48:44 GMT
I think most people here know by now, that I love Varric. But I think, I would prefer a game without too much ties companion wise to the other games. Give us something fresh and new.
As for possible recurring characters, I only see Isabella. She is always alive and well and not tied down to a location like Aveline for example. I really don't need to see Sebastian or Merrill again, Anders, Fenris, one of the siblings or both can be dead, Varric might or might not play a role (they could just have used him as narrator for the trailer).
I would be ok with Charade turning up. Fenarel would be interesting too, but he, too, could be dead or tranquil.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 18, 2021 16:11:21 GMT
I’m going to be an outlier and say I want to check in with Sebastian, see how that whole “ruling a city” things is working out for him.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 18, 2021 17:27:19 GMT
I’m going to be an outlier and say I want to check in with Sebastian, see how that whole “ruling a city” things is working out for him. According to the comics, he’s doing very well at it.
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Post by Zemgus on Mar 20, 2021 12:03:36 GMT
Isabela. I think she's the most interesting companion character from DA2 especially after her comic book appearance.
I would also like Fenris and Merrill to have small cameos (as long as player choice regarding their fate is respected).
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 20, 2021 15:01:51 GMT
A Warden Bethany/Carver would likely be at Weisshaupt. If we're going to see Wardens (not that I can understand why a Warden is needed against an ancient elven superracist), we would see them.
Aveline has no reason to be there.
Sebastian has no reason to be there.
Anders is always killed in my playthroughs, and that's really good.
Isabela could be there, as she operates in the Tevinter region. She's probably be part of the Armada.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 21, 2021 13:49:09 GMT
I largely hope Hawke and party are kept out of this game.
DAI really annoyed me by forcing Hawke to Weisshaupt, then dropping that like a hot potato to force Hawke to serve Varric in Kirkwall. Personally i just want my Hawke to be finally allowed to be off sailing with his Izzy. So definite no to either of those returning.
Loved Varric in DA2, got very tired of him by end of DAI(he felt half the character without his support cast). So really hope he's not a major figure again this time, though i expect he'll feature in some capacity.
Fenris might be an interesting character for a cameo given his tevinter connections but not overly fussed. Guess Merrill could have interesting viewpoint on Fenharel but think a fresh dalish character would serve better.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 23, 2021 23:02:07 GMT
A Warden Bethany/Carver would likely be at Weisshaupt. If we're going to see Wardens (not that I can understand why a Warden is needed against an ancient elven superracist), we would see them. From all the DA 2 both Bethany & Carver are most unlikely to return.
They could dead, Circle Mage / Templar or Grey Warden. In the canon world state (aka not using the DA Keep) Carver is a Templar. Also for Bethany and Carver exists 16! face options.
Sorry i don´t think its worth it to bring them back. If Bioware really wants someone from Hawke´s family i would suggest Hawkes cousin Charade Amell who has only one fate (always alive as a Red Jenny in every possible world state and of course just one face option)
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Post by duskwanderer on Mar 24, 2021 0:03:51 GMT
A Warden Bethany/Carver would likely be at Weisshaupt. If we're going to see Wardens (not that I can understand why a Warden is needed against an ancient elven superracist), we would see them. From all the DA 2 both Bethany & Carver are most unlikely to return.
They could dead, Circle Mage / Templar or Grey Warden. In the canon world state (aka not using the DA Keep) Carver is a Templar. Also for Bethany and Carver exists 16! face options.
Sorry i don´t think its worth it to bring them back. If Bioware really wants someone from Hawke´s family i would suggest Hawkes cousin Charade Amell who has only one fate (always alive as a Red Jenny in every possible world state and of course just one face option)
Precisely the opposite. Charade being in the story is a great way to involve Bethany and Carver.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 24, 2021 8:05:21 GMT
Charade being in the story is a great way to involve Bethany and Carver. Not if they are dead. Charade does seem more of a free agent and her connection with the Jennies could well result in her heading north. There was a hint in the costume of one of the characters in Tevinter Nights that the Jennies do have operatives in Tevinter.
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