Where are you buying the legendary edition?

Yeah, the husks thing really creeps me out, too. Imagine it's your mom that's turned into a husk? Or, worse, a Scion, which is three husks fused together? I don't. Can't see myself being "pro-Reaper".

Synthesis seems a little too "conversion therapy" for my tastes. In fact, it's exactly that.

Choice removed.  End of story.

If people are exactly like they were before, then what was the point of Synthesis in the first place? The whole idea was that it was supposed to alter them on some level so that organics and synthetics can coexist indefinitely. People as they were, according to the story, don’t have the capacity to do this. Even just the visual effect alone is enough to be hugely problematic. The idea that they’re somehow “better” as a result doesn’t make it any less off-putting. 

Unless you count all that green stuff flowing through them.  A choice not a single of them was given.  You can't force people to be something against their will and then claim it's okay become you like the outcome.  There's a long and sordid history of conversion.  None of it was a choice.  Show me the choice anyone at all was given in Synthesis.  Was there a vote?  No.  Shepard made a decision, but that's like a dictator telling people how it's going to be.  I might give in some areas of this discussion but not this one.  In fact, it's one of the main arguments most people have about Synthesis.  Choice was removed.  There is no way you can get around that.  Or prove me wrong.  Where was the choice I missed out on?

The game doesn’t really afford us any details beyond that people gain the ability to “understand”, whatever that means from the perspective of a cold, calculating killing machine.

We don’t know what happens to their personality, “soul” or whatever makes them them. That’s really the problem. We just have to assume from that really vague dialogue. 

Now I will butt in with popcorn for everyone and drinks for everyone as well.



Now lets make this thread go down hill properly with humor and memes.

Well I guess this is what happens when "speculation from everyone" is baked into your endings. Mission accomplished!

Indeed as far as I can tell in MEA both Ryder and SAM retain their individuality. The onl ything SA|M does reall yis use Ryder almost like a relay or conduit so Ryder can use th eimplants inside them with SAM's help t odostuff lik ehack thei rway throug hdoors easier or enhance their comba tskills or whatever. TBH that's really how I see their relationship anyway. So basicallySAM can act through Ryde rbu tonl ywith Ryder's permission. Becaus eatt teend of the day whilst SAM can suggest things it's not programmed t odfo them without Ryder's permission lik efo rexample when SAM kill sRyder to escape the Archon's trap durin the Archon's ship quest. SAM does suggest I can kill you to release yo ufrom the trap but it's not until Ryder says do it that SAM actually carries it out. Played that mission again a couple of days ago in factso it's pretty fresh in my mind.

That's some really good imagination you got there.

It definitely mind alters both Wreav's krogan and the quarians, seeing as they act nothing like they do in the other endings' slides (which are largely the same ones between Destroy and Control).

My inference is the green Reaper tech that everyone gets jammed into their skulls without consent uses a repurposed form of Indoctriantion to enforce the nebulous "peace" ideology, the same way TIM's blue Reaper tech enforced loyalty to Cerberus ideology (at least he had consent sometimes, though).