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The ending to this game sucks.
What even is green?
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Post by 10k on May 26, 2021 14:56:19 GMT
I agree, ME3 is shit. The ending wasn't the only problem. But I'd rather play ME3 for the rest of my life than play Andromda 1 more time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 14:58:53 GMT
I’d say ME2 is the worst, though playing this after MEA shows just how much BioWare improved in every aspect of the games with MEA. The story, characters, gameplay, etc are all better in MEA than the Shepard Trilogy.
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Post by themikefest on May 26, 2021 15:30:51 GMT
I’d say ME2 is the worst, though playing this after MEA shows just how much BioWare improved in every aspect of the games with MEA. The story, characters, gameplay, etc are all better in MEA than the Shepard Trilogy. You're right. After playing MEA, however long ago, and now playing remastered ME2, I realize how much better ME2 is. The story, the characters, especially the characters, and gameplay, etc are better than MEA. Does MEA have the power wheel? No Does MEA have the option to recruit squadmates or not? No. Did any squadmate die in MEA? No What mission in MEA can match the awesomeness of the suicide mission? None
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 16:09:36 GMT
I’d say ME2 is the worst, though playing this after MEA shows just how much BioWare improved in every aspect of the games with MEA. The story, characters, gameplay, etc are all better in MEA than the Shepard Trilogy. You're right. After playing MEA, however long ago, and now playing remastered ME2, I realize how much better ME2 is. The story, the characters, especially the characters, and gameplay, etc are better than MEA. Does MEA have the power wheel? No Does MEA have the option to recruit squadmates or not? No. Did any squadmate die in MEA? No What mission in MEA can match the awesomeness of the suicide mission? None If you think I’m right, the rest of your post is a troll one. In no way, shape, or form is ME2, even ME2LE (which is a downgrade if anything) better than MEA. The Suicide Mission is overhyped (thought that even when it came out(, the Assault on Meridian is much better than it or the Battle of Earth. As for the other criteria you listed, those are way too subjective. And irrelevant since most people recruit everyone and keep them alive anyway.
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Post by quarianmasterrace on May 26, 2021 16:27:49 GMT
I’d say ME2 is the worst, though playing this after MEA shows just how much BioWare improved in every aspect of the games with MEA. The story, characters, gameplay, etc are all better in MEA than the Shepard Trilogy. I didn't know it was opposite day but I'll play along. Empire is the worst Star Wars. The Prequels show how George Lucas improved on the OT in every way especially the dialogue, characters and use of practical special effects.
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Post by themikefest on May 26, 2021 16:36:03 GMT
If you think I’m right, the rest of your post is a troll one. In no way, shape, or form is ME2, even ME2LE (which is a downgrade if anything) better than MEA. The Suicide Mission is overhyped (thought that even when it came out(, the Assault on Meridian is much better than it or the Battle of Earth. As for the other criteria you listed, those are way too subjective. And irrelevant since most people recruit everyone and keep them alive anyway. The game was crap. ME2 got dlc. Did MEA? No. As far as I know, no statement from EA/Bioware was released as to why. Since you mention most recruit all, not all people, it is relevant. It adds replay value. That can't be said of MEA. Assault on Meridian better than suicide mission? No. Maybe better than priority Earth, but if Bioware had the same amount of time as MEA, it might be better than what it is. Say whatever you want about MEA, but it seems Bioware is looking to the Milky Way for the future going by the teaser released last year. Take a look at all the merchandise for ME. Don't see much of anything for MEA. The va's from the trilogy are making comments about whatever whereas the va's from MEA are very far and few between. And at the moment, and likely for awhile, all the talk is about the remaster. It seems to be doing well. It will be great to find out if it outsells MEA. EA would use that as a reason to not have another game in Andromeda. They have my support if that were to happen. Either way, I'm enjoying playing the remaster. Can't say the same for MEA.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 16:36:22 GMT
I’d say ME2 is the worst, though playing this after MEA shows just how much BioWare improved in every aspect of the games with MEA. The story, characters, gameplay, etc are all better in MEA than the Shepard Trilogy. I didn't know it was opposite day but I'll play along. Empire is the worst Star Wars. The Prequels show how George Lucas improved on the OT in every way especially the dialogue, characters and use of practical special effects. It’s not. ME2 was and still is the worst in the trilogy, and MEA is better than any of them. Therefore, ME2 is the worst ME game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 16:42:07 GMT
If you think I’m right, the rest of your post is a troll one. In no way, shape, or form is ME2, even ME2LE (which is a downgrade if anything) better than MEA. The Suicide Mission is overhyped (thought that even when it came out(, the Assault on Meridian is much better than it or the Battle of Earth. As for the other criteria you listed, those are way too subjective. And irrelevant since most people recruit everyone and keep them alive anyway. The game was crap. ME2 got dlc. Did MEA? No. As far as I know, no statement from EA/Bioware was released as to why. Since you mention most recruit all, not all people, it is relevant. It adds replay value. That can't be said of MEA. Assault on Meridian better than suicide mission? No. Maybe better than priority Earth, but if Bioware had the same amount of time as MEA, it might be better than what it is. Say whatever you want about MEA, but it seems Bioware is looking to the Milky Way for the future going by the teaser released last year. Take a look at all the merchandise for ME. Don't see much of anything for MEA. The va's from the trilogy are making comments about whatever whereas the va's from MEA are very far and few between. And at the moment, and likely for awhile, all the talk is about the remaster. It seems to be doing well. It will be great to find out if it outsells MEA. EA would use that as a reason to not have another game in Andromeda. They have my support if that were to happen. Either way, I'm enjoying playing the remaster. Can't say the same for MEA. The “No DLC means bad game” argument has been disproven, since not only are games that everyone agrees did well like Fallen Order not get DLC but now even GotY games haven’t like TLoU2. MEA has tons of replayability. What makes the Suicide Mission so good? Nothing. The only unique thing about it is if you force yourself to be an idiot you lose people. Going by dev comments, it involves both. No shit more people are talking about a game that just came out compared to a game that’s four years old.
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Post by quarianmasterrace on May 26, 2021 16:42:11 GMT
I didn't know it was opposite day but I'll play along. Empire is the worst Star Wars. The Prequels show how George Lucas improved on the OT in every way especially the dialogue, characters and use of practical special effects. It’s not. ME2 was and still is the worst in the trilogy, and MEA is better than any of them. Therefore, ME2 is the worst ME game. Yes the worst things get all the praise and awards and the best things get ridiculed and forgotten. This is how the world works. Floyd Mayweather is a chump the real best of all time is like Robin Deakin or some other random guy with a negative record nobody cares about. I like opposite day.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 16:47:44 GMT
It’s not. ME2 was and still is the worst in the trilogy, and MEA is better than any of them. Therefore, ME2 is the worst ME game. Yes the worst things get all the praise and awards and the best things get ridiculed and forgotten. This is how the world works. Floyd Mayweather is a chump the real best of all time is like Robin Deakin or some other random guy with a negative record nobody cares about. I like opposite day. Nice use of ad populum. However considering 50 Shades of Grey is one of the best selling books of all time, yet everyone knows they are objectively bad, your argument falls flat. Good to know you actually like MEA, since you say it sucks yet are playing Opposite Day.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 26, 2021 16:56:49 GMT
Yep. ME2 is a good game but not a good ME trilogy game for me, its way too disconnected and feels almost like not a ME game but all the visuals point it would be. Didnt much care for any of the henchmen except the returning ones from ME1. It somehow feels most drab to me, I think it has something to do with the musics and more darker/edgier tone which also disconnects me from ME. I'm still gonna play it of course on LE.
Its not like "yeah thats 0 and thats 1". Even if I dont like it as much as others, I like it enough. See my signature.
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Post by Serza on May 26, 2021 16:57:29 GMT
If you think I’m right, the rest of your post is a troll one. In no way, shape, or form is ME2, even ME2LE (which is a downgrade if anything) better than MEA. The Suicide Mission is overhyped (thought that even when it came out(, the Assault on Meridian is much better than it or the Battle of Earth. As for the other criteria you listed, those are way too subjective. And irrelevant since most people recruit everyone and keep them alive anyway. The game was crap. ME2 got dlc. Did MEA? No. As far as I know, no statement from EA/Bioware was released as to why. Since you mention most recruit all, not all people, it is relevant. It adds replay value. That can't be said of MEA. Assault on Meridian better than suicide mission? No. Maybe better than priority Earth, but if Bioware had the same amount of time as MEA, it might be better than what it is. Say whatever you want about MEA, but it seems Bioware is looking to the Milky Way for the future going by the teaser released last year. Take a look at all the merchandise for ME. Don't see much of anything for MEA. The va's from the trilogy are making comments about whatever whereas the va's from MEA are very far and few between. And at the moment, and likely for awhile, all the talk is about the remaster. It seems to be doing well. It will be great to find out if it outsells MEA. EA would use that as a reason to not have another game in Andromeda. They have my support if that were to happen. Either way, I'm enjoying playing the remaster. Can't say the same for MEA.
Still salty 'bout that. I liked it. I wanted them to go back and say "We got off on the wrong foot" and turn Andromeda into it's own trilogy that would in the end be a decent successor to Shepard's.
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Post by themikefest on May 26, 2021 16:59:07 GMT
The “No DLC means bad game” argument has been disproven, I never said the game not getting dlc means the game was crap. All I'm saying is the game never got any dlc. It does? How many times have you played the game? Makes someone an idiot? Can you explain that? Did you have anyone die on your very first playthrough of ME2? I can recruit all twelve with some not loyal with everyone still surviving. The same if only I recruit 8. I can have this character do this, that, or the other thing instead of having that other character do those things with the same result. Yet you seem to be mad about that.
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Post by abaris on May 26, 2021 17:04:44 GMT
The “No DLC means bad game” argument has been disproven, since not only are games that everyone agrees did well like Fallen Order not get DLC but now even GotY games haven’t like TLoU2. Bioware opened that can of wirms. ME:As story is unfinished. The most interesting elements end in lose threads, obviously geared at some future DLCs to pick up on the cliffhangers. That alone renders replayability void for me. There's no resolution, just shooting up some new alien race, who's motivation stays unexplained other than simply being evil. Well, yes, maybe I'm wasting my breath comparing this to ME1 and 2. Saren has a clear cut motivation and is multi facetted as a villain, since his motives aren't simply evil. In his world, he's out to save the galaxy.
ME:A is simply an unfinished game with an unfinished storyline.
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Post by lavigne on May 26, 2021 17:09:00 GMT
No idea how many times I’ve played the trilogy through. In contrast I played through MEA once. Started again to play through as male Ryder and only made it a few hours in before the tedium overwhelmed me. MEA is a “meh” game I’m afraid. It’s not the car crash it was at launch but it’s still a long way from being a good game. Holding it up as a better game than ME2, ME1, or even ME3 is frankly, laughable.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 17:18:24 GMT
The “No DLC means bad game” argument has been disproven, since not only are games that everyone agrees did well like Fallen Order not get DLC but now even GotY games haven’t like TLoU2. Bioware opened that can of wirms. ME:As story is unfinished. The most interesting elements end in lose threads, obviously geared at some future DLCs to pick up on the cliffhangers. That alone renders replayability void for me. There's no resolution, just shooting up some new alien race, who's motivation stays unexplained other than simply being evil. Well, yes, maybe I'm wasting my breath comparing this to ME1 and 2. Saren has a clear cut motivation and is multi facetted as a villain, since his motives aren't simply evil. In his world, he's out to save the galaxy.
ME:A is simply an unfinished game with an unfinished storyline.
I always saw that as sequel bait more than DLC bait, simply because of how many races are on the Quarian Ark thus how much resources would need to be spent on it (after all it's a different engine so they'd need to make them from scratch). In the Archon's world, he is doing the same. The Kett genuinely see what they are doing as benefitting the races they turn into Kett.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2021 17:24:23 GMT
The “No DLC means bad game” argument has been disproven, I never said the game not getting dlc means the game was crap. All I'm saying is the game never got any dlc. It does? How many times have you played the game? Makes someone an idiot? Can you explain that? Did you have anyone die on your very first playthrough of ME2? I can recruit all twelve with some not loyal with everyone still surviving. The same if only I recruit 8. I can have this character do this, that, or the other thing instead of having that other character do those things with the same result. Yet you seem to be mad about that. Many people have, so thought that was where you were going. My apologies if I was midtaken. Easily over a dozen. On par with the Shepard games, despite MEA being longer. I had nobody die my first playthrough, since I could easily tell what we needed to do and who should do what job. And you proved my point that the only way characters die is if the player makes stupid choices, thus being an idiot as I said. No, not at all. That was more in tone of "In other news, water is wet." since obviously the new shiny thing would be talked about more right after it came out.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 26, 2021 17:27:27 GMT
Bioware opened that can of wirms. ME:As story is unfinished. The most interesting elements end in lose threads, obviously geared at some future DLCs to pick up on the cliffhangers. That alone renders replayability void for me. There's no resolution, just shooting up some new alien race, who's motivation stays unexplained other than simply being evil. Well, yes, maybe I'm wasting my breath comparing this to ME1 and 2. Saren has a clear cut motivation and is multi facetted as a villain, since his motives aren't simply evil. In his world, he's out to save the galaxy.
ME:A is simply an unfinished game with an unfinished storyline.
I always saw that as sequel bait more than DLC bait, simply because of how many races are on the Quarian Ark thus how much resources would need to be spent on it (after all it's a different engine so they'd need to make them from scratch). In the Archon's world, he is doing the same. The Kett genuinely see what they are doing as benefitting the races they turn into Kett. Even if it is so, Bioware's direction with Will Continue is entirely pointless. Making a "not exactly" sequel to Andromeda, without Ryder. It's not like I expect a drastically different protagonist. It's just going to be reskinned Ryder. So what even is the point of naming him Maclunkey, or whatever. Bioware should man the fuck up and at least not honeydick one part of their of their fanbase. Especially if they don't want to "bend the knee" to "hurtful trolls". Fucking own it.
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Post by themikefest on May 26, 2021 17:30:19 GMT
I had nobody die my first playthrough, since I could easily tell what we needed to do and who should do what job. And you proved my point that the only way characters die is if the player makes stupid choices, thus being an idiot as I said. Look at it like this. Having characters die in ME2 adds replay value. Why? Mordin dies, the player meets Padok wiks, a good character. Grunt is not recruited or dies in ME2. The player meets urdnot Dagg, another excellent character. Legion is activated or dies, the player meets the geth vi in ME3 leading to different dialogue. Tali not in ME3, the player has to deal with Xen on the dreadnought. I like her comments. And so on. I may have let most if not all characters in ME2 die, but that's because it lets me see/hear the difference in ME3. It's called replay value.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 26, 2021 17:38:17 GMT
I had nobody die my first playthrough, since I could easily tell what we needed to do and who should do what job. And you proved my point that the only way characters die is if the player makes stupid choices, thus being an idiot as I said. Look at it like this. Having characters die in ME2 adds replay value. Why? Mordin dies, the player meets Padok wiks, a good character. Grunt is not recruited or dies in ME2. The player meets urdnot Dagg, another excellent character. Legion is activated or dies, the player meets the geth vi in ME3 leading to different dialogue. Tali not in ME3, the player has to deal with Xen on the dreadnought. I like her comments. And so on. I may have let most if not all characters in ME2 die, but that's because it lets me see/hear the difference in ME3. It's called replay value. What if I don't like ME3 to begin with?
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Post by lynroy on May 26, 2021 17:43:31 GMT
I'd rather listen to star brat than play MEA, but that's me.
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