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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 7, 2021 22:34:24 GMT
No, all the pieces of the Kestral armor are apparently at Illium. Right but that doesn´t bother me that much. Well Bioware wants that the player has to earn it and not getting the best weapons and armor for free.
They done it previously because players had to buy them extra.
I really have no problem with new system. I had unlocked almost everything with extra credits which were to be fair a bit too much so no big deal. Also you can get stuff to buy with your credits. I am not sure but i think it should be still even without any boni to buy everything if the player finished every missions and found most of the credits.
Last but not least like i said i assume that Bioware wanted less Email Spam which featured those items. They only kept the interessing or funny ones.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Jun 7, 2021 22:40:51 GMT
There was never a Credit problem in ME2 and after the patch it is still no ptoblem. You can still buy every shop empty. But here is a Credit problem in ME3 I'm perfectly happy with the credits in ME3 old game. I could always buy what I needed for both Shepard and his/her squad to Level V in the first run and to Level 10 in the second... but now I suspect they are having you buy the initial Level 1 of the DLC weapons rather than having them available in the inventory at the start of the game. So, I'll probably have to find another 200,000 or so to get the Indra SR Level 1... money I didn't have to spend for it in the old game. Needing to play through ME3 at least twice with the same character to upgrade your guns to max was always an issue. And you need Armax Arsenal Arena to do it in only two playthroughs. And reminder: Armax Arsenal Arena was part of DLC. It is included now. As I have mentioned in previous threads, I would prefer if guns only went up to level V instead of X. Having to buy the DLC guns in stores is not a big deal. I actually that you buy guns from stores instead of finding them in missions, especially considering how late you get some guns in ME3. But having to buy most of the good ones from the Spectre Requisitions office for insanely stupid prices (75,000 to 250,000 crfedits) is just plain nuts. But you can buy the Venom in another store for less than 10,000!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 23:00:50 GMT
You guys do realize that in the old ME2, you would ALWAYS start with aminimu of 120,000 credits unless (and only unless) you were doing your 1st ever run as a cold ME2 non-import start. The patch notes now say the starting CAP is 100,000 credits. So, if accurate, you will never start with mroe than that. It's way less that the ME1, Rich, Level 60, starting bonus if you had already completed ME2 at least once... which was a total fo 350,000 credits. One hundred thousand credits is just enough to buy 2 weapons upgrades on Omega (if you negotiate the discount).
I'm not talking about ME3... although I think throwing the DLC guns into the spectre requisitions terminal is also a bad idea.
As I said, I have access to the old game... so I've decided for myself the graphics improvement in ME2 and ME3 are not sufficient to warrant my playing with the added hassle of rebuying my DLC guns every new (not NG+ playthrough) with more limited funds available to me than I have in the old game.
It's as simple as that... you guys enjoy.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 7, 2021 23:18:10 GMT
Somebody really needs to do testing of this whole credit import thing.
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Post by sugarless on Jun 7, 2021 23:57:33 GMT
Pretty sloppy of EA to release/force feed the patch and not supply patch notes earlier today. And when they did release the patch notes they seem to be basic to the point of having many players confused as to why they've changed things that weren't complained about and ignored other significant bugs/problems. The EA forums are still packed with bugs/issues post patch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 0:11:30 GMT
This was a cash grab, with a side of fishing adventure.
Come to grips with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 0:17:09 GMT
Somebody really needs to do testing of this whole credit import thing. Why not you? If you've completed ME2 once, then just start a new file after updating... Are you starting with 100,000 or 320,000 to 350,000 (depending on the level of Shepard you're importing). I haven't completed ME2 yet and I'm not updating yet either, so I can't test it (my data plan won't handle it right now). If that 200,000 bonus is still there, then it's still manageable even with the added purchases needed. If not, then I say, they've cut it back too far. My concern isn't later in the game... I regularly leave the regular armors in the shops and haven't bought an off-hand ammo pack or hack module or Fornax for years. I'm also not concerned if I"m playing on an easy difficulty... but I will personally never get past Mordin's and Garrus' recruitment missions unless I can buy at least a couple of upgrades and a medi-gel capacity before starting... and some fuel and probes. Collected upgrades don't matter, because the lab doesn't get opened until you get Mordin.
You could also test a ME2 to ME2 (NG+ Import) - It should start with a flat 200,000 credits and no transfer amount from ME1.
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Post by vonuber on Jun 8, 2021 0:22:04 GMT
I always edit my save game now, and see no reason to stop with the LE. Removing the grind for resources/ cash makes it much more enjoyable.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 8, 2021 0:32:56 GMT
Somebody really needs to do testing of this whole credit import thing. Why not you? If you've completed ME2 once, then just start a new file after updating... Are you starting with 100,000 or 320,000 to 350,000 (depending on the level of Shepard you're importing). I haven't completed ME2 yet and I'm not updating yet either, so I can't test it (my data plan won't handle it right now). If that 200,000 bonus is still there, then it's still manageable even with the added purchases needed. If not, then I say, they've cut it back too far. My concern isn't later in the game... I regularly leave the regular armors in the shops and haven't bought an off-hand ammo pack or hack module or Fornax for years. I'm also not concerned if I"m playing on an easy difficulty... but I will personally never get past Mordin's and Garrus' recruitment missions unless I can buy at least a couple of upgrades and a medi-gel capacity before starting... and some fuel and probes. Collected upgrades don't matter, because the lab doesn't get opened until you get Mordin.
You could also test a ME2 to ME2 (NG+ Import) - It should start with a flat 200,000 credits and no transfer amount from ME1.
head desk. I didn't think about that. Granted I'm unlikely to get on for... A while now.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 8, 2021 0:33:49 GMT
This was a cash grab, with a side of fishing adventure. Come to grips with it. all products are cash grabs.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2021 0:42:49 GMT
This was a cash grab, with a side of fishing adventure. Come to grips with it. all products are cash grabs. I disagree. There are products that are much more passion projects where the creator doesn't care how much money it makes but just wanted to make that product.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 0:54:22 GMT
This was a cash grab, with a side of fishing adventure. Come to grips with it. all products are cash grabs. That's a pretty pessimistic view. Surprisingly dark actually. I disagree. I have been involved in labors of love, a couple of them that indeed have turned out to be valuable. I think a lot of what has made those things valuable is that they were made without ever having that goal in mind. It can be expression. Businesses of course want to make money. This was easy money and they grabbed it, plain and simple. I am very disappointed in the high volume of bugs, unnecessary changes to beloved characters, and insistence on "balance" for a single player game's economy. Total WTF moment right there for me, reading the patch notes. I hope they fix most of this for those of you that bought this and are disappointed.
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Post by andydandymandy on Jun 8, 2021 4:16:40 GMT
I don't really have a problem with going back to the original amount of money you got when you imported to ME2. I never felt I had a problem buying whatever I wanted to buy, as you get a ton of cash after every mission in ME2 and you can loot a lot more (hell, if your med-gel packs are maxed out you get 100 creds every time you loot a med box).
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This was a cash grab, with a side of fishing adventure. Come to grips with it. all products are cash grabs. All consumers want everything for free.
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Post by Exile Isan on Jun 8, 2021 4:51:29 GMT
Okay, just tested this on Xbox One. I had max credits in ME1, just started ME2 with 35000. This is just what I started the game with (didn't leave the first room) Don't know if you get more when you actually get to the Normandy or not.
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Okay, just tested this on Xbox One. I had max credits in ME1, just started ME2 with 35000. This is just what I started the game with (didn't leave the first room) Don't know if you get more when you actually get to the Normandy or not. Thanks. That's a relief. I think Freedom's Progress has always added some credits, so you should have a little bit more when you get to Normandy. A ME2 to ME2 import will probably start with 200,000 credits at the point you're at now. Both are manageable for me on insanity, although I'm hoping the guns you purchase in a first run will be in your inventory during a NG+ run.
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Post by SassaMFG on Jun 8, 2021 12:08:43 GMT
I'm hoping the guns you purchase in a first run will be in your inventory during a NG+ run. Someone wrote that Locust is present from the start in NG+, so I assume other DLC weapons and armors are as well.
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I'm hoping the guns you purchase in a first run will be in your inventory during a NG+ run. Someone wrote that Locust is present from the start in NG+, so I assume other DLC weapons and armors are as well. We'll see. I still say they could have handled it better... say, by capping the ME1 transfer at 110,000 (giving you a little more to initially buy some of the DLC weapons and armor that are sold at Omega and the Citadel, without having to put off buying weapons upgrades that you have the money to buy in the old game). Then if they wanted to make it such that players didn't wind up with quite so much money at the end of the game (after buying out everything in the stores), they could have reduced the payout of LotSB and Arrival from the current cap of 90,000 credits each to the more standard 60,000 credits each and still placed the "better" DLC stuff at Illium and Tuchanka.
However, as I said, it's at lease manageable for me to get through a NG+ on Insanity even if I can't get through my current ME1 (before patch) transfer... which I may yet have to knock down to hardcore because it is a first run, transferred in at a lower level and not gaining XP as quickly as when I did an insanity ME1 transfer in the old game... and I don't have my favored armor (Kestral) because I can't buy it until Illium unlocks. So... I'm still trying, but Bioware has made it a lot tougher on me. At my age, once I get the Insanity III achievement, I'll probably never play ME2LE or ME3LE on insanity ever again. So far, it's not really been as fun as I remember it being in the old game. ME1 combat... they did improve that... marginally... enemies are still very much bullet sponges... I've even had to lay on multiple hits with mako's cannon on the husks on Chasca and Nodacrux... and I still have to hit the geth mooks in the Armstrong Cluster multiple times... even though I'm sniping them with a Level X HMWSR loaded with High Explosive Rounds X, a Scram Rail X, and a Frictionless Materials X. ME2 combat they haven't really changed much at all. The NPC's are worse than ever for taking cover in odd places and ammo drops on some missions are still as rare as they ever were while being downright excessive on others.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 8, 2021 14:29:54 GMT
Isn´t this just the M5 Phalanx heavy pistol?
I don´t like some of changes but i prefer that we have to buy those former DLC at a moderate price.
Less Email Spam from TIM at the beginning.
By the way i am only talking about ME 2 but i am aware that the N7 weapons are pretty expensive. But i dislike the newest change. I can unterstand that this previous a bit to much but Bioware should find a better balance than returning to ME 2 credits bonus where the player don´t have to buy the DLC.
No, all the pieces of the Kestral armor are apparently at Illium. I would have been happy if they just didn't change it from the way it was. Use all the same import bonuses as before and put the DLC items into the player's inventory at the start of the game. The old game has worked well that way for years. It never felt particularly unbalanced before, even when one owned all the DLC. So why did they change it now? The onl yreason why I think they did wha tthe ydid was to give people a reason fror doing things in thas tyou unlock things as you progress through the game besides the MELE was I think moer aimed at newcomers rather than veterans as I've mentioned before I do think hey need t orethink wha tthey'er doing with the ME2 credits though because unlik ewith ME3 wher ewe can jus tdo matches in the Armax Arena to earn as many crdits as we like t obyu what w eneed or want ME2 doesn't have anything like that. Yes you earn creds for doing missions but most of it is needed to buy the standard upgrades that were in the game to start with. Thankfuly I'v estill got the creds I started my playthrough with so this run won't be a problem next one however could well be if we'er forced to hav eto choose between byuing the DLC equipment or getting our ship upgraded t ofac the collectors so nobody dies. It's a tricky one but I think we need a fwe more creds thasn what the old system used. I thuink if they'd reduced i tto 2% or 5% or something tha tmight hav ebeen better than 10% ds it would have given us 200,000-500,000 credits which I think woul dhave been enough. It might b einteresting to see wha tpeople would choose but I guess it's a hard thing t oget right given al the DLC items are in the shops now. I think it's likel ytha tin my case is I'll just d owha tI've don ein this playthrough an djus tbyu what I think I'll use as I still have most of my creds as I'm sitting at around 700,000
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 8, 2021 14:34:50 GMT
No, all the pieces of the Kestral armor are apparently at Illium. Right but that doesn´t bother me that much. Well Bioware wants that the player has to earn it and not getting the best weapons and armor for free.
They done it previously because players had to buy them extra.
I really have no problem with new system. I had unlocked almost everything with extra credits which were to be fair a bit too much so no big deal. Also you can get stuff to buy with your credits. I am not sure but i think it should be still even without any boni to buy everything if the player finished every missions and found most of the credits.
Last but not least like i said i assume that Bioware wanted less Email Spam which featured those items. They only kept the interessing or funny ones.
Yeah I think the main erason was to make peopl ework for it. I tma ybe a pain when it comes to choosin gwhether to byu the weapon or the upgrade to the Normandy. But I guess that's wher the roleplaying can come in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 14:37:09 GMT
all products are cash grabs. All consumers want everything for free. This is also false. Completely. Do we like free shit? Yes, and so do you. I pay $30/pair for socks. I could buy them for 99¢ a pair. Do I want to pay less? Sure, if I can get the same quality. I feel like this was a throwaway comment, but it needs to be addressed.
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All consumers want everything for free. This is also false. Completely. Do we like free shit? Yes, and so do you. I pay $30/pair for socks. I could buy them for 99¢ a pair. Do I want to pay less? Sure, if I can get the same quality. I feel like this was a throwaway comment, but it needs to be addressed. Yeah... when I put a smiley behind a comment, it often means I'm kidding or being sarcastic.
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Post by rahavan on Jun 8, 2021 14:57:57 GMT
I always find people complaining about resource and credit grinding interesting in single player games. Whilst it sucks you can't get everything you want legit you can always just edit a save file (or use a trainer/cheat engine on PC). It has never soured a game for me to do that. You skip boring grind and get to enjoy the actual gameplay the way you want it. Only want the credits you missed via the update? add just that amount. Don't want to grind at all? just add a stupid amount.
So honestly the loss of credits is no big deal for anyone except stubborn people who refuse to give themselves the missing credits (and then proceed to complain instead of accepting their choices and therefor consequences). It isn't hard to learn how to do. If I could figure it out when I was a kid back in the mid 2000s it shouldn't be a problem for anyone.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 8, 2021 14:59:43 GMT
Its so hard Anyway, 1.03 on PS5 seems to have restarted the game. Lets see if anything is wonky or not.
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