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Post by Element Zero on Jun 15, 2021 3:08:14 GMT
I'm surprised to see Jack getting so many votes. I like all of the squaddies over the years, but Jack has definitely always fallen into the "superfluous' category for me. Maybe it's because I always play on Insanity, but she's nearly useless to me in terms of gameplay. I can't really think of any likely scenarios in which her recruitment in ME3 would make more sense than some of the others. I'd welcome her, of course, all the same.
So many of our ME2 recruits seem somewhat unnecessary. In the end, I guess we really did need every body to hold the line in the Collector Base; so no one was unnecessary. In terms of gameplay, though? So much redundancy. Great game. Great characters. Maybe too much of a good thing?
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Post by Blast Processor on Jun 15, 2021 3:37:40 GMT
I'm surprised to see Jack getting so many votes. I like all of the squaddies over the years, but Jack has definitely always fallen into the "superfluous' category for me. Maybe it's because I always play on Insanity, but she's nearly useless to me in terms of gameplay. I can't really think of any likely scenarios in which her recruitment in ME3 would make more sense than some of the others. I'd welcome her, of course, all the same. I just voted Jack because I like her. I usually play on Hardcore so I can take whomever. And even though Shockwave kinda sucks in ME2, I find its just plain fun to use. Though in ME3 Shockwave just sucks, there is no fun. LOL. I'd say give Jack Warp or something like she has in the Arena, its not like we don't have a bunch of overlap already with potentially three squaddies with Overload. So many of our ME2 recruits seem somewhat unnecessary. In the end, I guess we really did need every body to hold the line in the Collector Base; so no one was unnecessary. In terms of gameplay, though? So much redundancy. Great game. Great characters. Maybe too much of a good thing? Yeah, anymore I find myself getting bored doing all the loyalty missions after a certain point. There really needed to be a least one more main quest to break things up.
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Post by Guardian on Jun 15, 2021 5:07:43 GMT
So many of our ME2 recruits seem somewhat unnecessary. In the end, I guess we really did need every body to hold the line in the Collector Base; so no one was unnecessary. In terms of gameplay, though? So much redundancy. Great game. Great characters. Maybe too much of a good thing? ME 2 was my favorite game of the series, and the best of the trilogy. That being said, this is a fair criticism of the game. Does that make it any less in my eyes? No, not really; but it shows that despite being a great game, it still has flaws. All games have flaws - no matter how great they are overall. Was it too much of a good thing? Who can say? Yeah, anymore I find myself getting bored doing all the loyalty missions after a certain point. There really needed to be a least one more main quest to break things up. Now that you mention it, this is actually not a bad idea. I also would like to throw out there changing how the "crew abduction" is triggered in 2. Legion feels so much like an afterthought really, and if you're looking to do everyone's loyalty mission and save all the crew, then Legion becomes pointless. So yes, another main quest mission to help break things up would be great - I'd say after getting the Reaper IFF, and change somehow when the "trigger" begins.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 15, 2021 11:14:43 GMT
I'm surprised to see Jack getting so many votes. I like all of the squaddies over the years, but Jack has definitely always fallen into the "superfluous' category for me. Maybe it's because I always play on Insanity, but she's nearly useless to me in terms of gameplay. I can't really think of any likely scenarios in which her recruitment in ME3 would make more sense than some of the others. I'd welcome her, of course, all the same. Her being an instructor was a....what-the-**** moment. I would have had it where Shepard receives an email from Hackett, or a hologram, mentioning that for some reason there's a lot Cerberus activity in a cluster that Hackett would like Shepard to take a look. Find out Cerberus is after Jack. If the mission is completed, Jack can be a squadmate or be sent to Hackett. If the mission isn't completed, she is killed on Cronos just like if Grissom is not completed. My view is if 8 squadmates are needed to get through the Omega-4 relay, and everyone survive, why need 12? In ME3, all ME2 squadmates, not counting the turian and quarian, do add to the game. Just in the form of war assets.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 25, 2021 20:01:33 GMT
I'm having a hard time, as I'd want both Miranda and Jack to return, as both were in the works of returning as full squadmates for ME3, but were cut for time. But ultimately, I'd have to vote for Jack, because I am a greater simp for her.
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Post by sugarless on Jun 27, 2021 6:33:56 GMT
I voted Miranda I would only take Jack if I could slap her/kick her ass at Grissom. 
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Jun 28, 2021 8:30:50 GMT
Jack's one of my favorites and I'd like to see her back...
But given the situation, I voted for Thane. Also, Shepard trying to obtain a fetch quest to get more drell blood will never not be funny/sad. I would have liked to bring him along. At least for a bit.
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Post by talyn82 on Jul 1, 2021 0:02:26 GMT
I voted Miranda also. I was disappointed we had little interaction with her in ME3. I at least would have liked her as a temporary party member for her quest.
Honorable mention: Wrex or Grunt.
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Post by Deathfield on Jul 6, 2021 9:09:02 GMT
Top three choices are Miranda, Wrex and Jack. Would have happily booted Diana Allers off the Normandy and given her room to Miranda, made little sense not being a squadmate, hiding from The Illusive Man, use the stealth ship, looking for her sister, use the Shadow Brokers intel.
Could also have had a squadmate occupy Thane's old room.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 12, 2021 16:11:49 GMT
I'm on board with Miranda. I think she's the best fit. She's capable of being both leader and follower, she's smart, she's powerful and she's loyal to Shepard. I'm assuming she dies in ME2 if she's not loyal. I guess if she's dead, Oriana would have to fill the role, just like there are replacements for Garrus, Thane, Mordin, Grunt, Wrex and Tali.
Edit/Add: Just as A/K can't join until later in the game, Miranda's loyalty mission - which would have to be completed earlier - would be what allows her to be available. Should she dies, maybe while saving her sister's life, we could still slot in Oriana.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 12, 2021 16:16:43 GMT
Would have happily booted Diana Allers off the Normandy and given her room to Miranda, How about putting Liara in Diana's room and allowing Miranda back into her office?
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Post by sageoflife on Jul 13, 2021 3:17:57 GMT
Seems like they actually were planning to add Jack at some point considering her new design and the lack of a Vanguard squadmate. Though I wonder what Liara's second Bonus Power would have been in place of Warp Ammo if they had gone that route.
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Post by Sundance31us on Jul 20, 2021 4:17:00 GMT
Someone not listed in the poll...I would love to have had Kal'Reegar join the squad for ME3.
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Post by talyn82 on Jul 20, 2021 5:50:17 GMT
Another notable mention is my favorite character, Mordin Solus. I know he is in the game, but in my first playthrough he died and I was sad. Would've loved if he became a party member after curing the genophage.
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Post by vergil on Aug 4, 2021 6:43:00 GMT
There's a lot of issues with the squad list of ME3 that just adding one person wouldn't be enough imo but if I had to pick just one to add I would probably say Miranda. Her being on the run from TIM makes it perfect for her to decide to join Shepard's crew both to stay safe from Cerberus and to help fight against them with her extensive knowledge of the organization. Now if we're talking free reign I would replace EDI with Legion, James with Grunt and add Miranda.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 4, 2021 11:44:44 GMT
I'd have Drack with me but Wrex would suffice with ME1 powers, not that ME3 crap with consumables suddenly You mean Grunt? 😄 Drack is asleep. I chose Miranda. There's no competition. The choice to leave her out of the ME3 crew always seemed silly to me. She should've been a fairly early recruit. I like Traynor well enough, but most of her "big contributions" would make sense given to EDI and Miranda. Yeah Drack's asleep and on his way to Andromeda at this point. But yeah I thinkI'd pick one of my krogan buddies either Grunt or Wrex as it always felt a bit strange trying to save the galaxy without a badass Krogan by my side in ME3. Especially given we had one by our side throughout both ME1 and 2 and of course we have Drack in Andromeda.
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Post by lordmoral on Aug 27, 2021 2:14:21 GMT
Legion as it would be fun to take him on a mission with Williams to see her reactions post meeting him on that Geth Dreadnaught and her very vocal rejection that Shepard goes into the Geth minds as it's risky. This would have created a similar dynamic that Tali had in ME2 as we know Legion went to Eden Prime after the Normandy was destroyed and got part of Shepard armor as well travelled the Traverse until arriving at the crash site, as mentioned, before the Alliance ever bothered to collect the tags of his missing crew. She read the reports on the Heretics vs True Geths but it was a massive lost opportunity to have them interact more. The close second character I would have liked to have in some parts of ME3 was Miranda in the Coup as she can even tell Williams that her suspicions were close to reality and that she almost placed a bug in Shepard head only to be stopped by TIM as he didn't wanted anything to change his ideals or alter him in anyway, Williams does get touched and appalled by Miranda suffering at the hands of her father. Thane would have been a neat interaction as well, an Assassin who spent days next to her was also part of Shepard crew and we could have played the section they split up on the Hospital and see Thane explain all that to Williams that Shepard asked him a few days ago to keep an eye out for her (and maybe I don't know, share the current Shepard comms frequency with her, anyways why didn't that happened?). Geth Dreadnaught:
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Post by Phantom on Aug 27, 2021 3:19:07 GMT
Kai Leng and Thane. Reasons due to the pissing contest of The Art of the Assassin.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 27, 2021 3:20:56 GMT
Would have happily booted Diana Allers off the Normandy and given her room to Miranda, How about putting Liara in Diana's room and allowing Miranda back into her office? are you indoctrinated by the Reapers? Miranda is with Cerberus and Cerberus always follows their favorite cheerleader....I am so disappointed in you DMC.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 27, 2021 11:23:54 GMT
How about putting Liara in Diana's room and allowing Miranda back into her office? are you indoctrinated by the Reapers? Miranda is with Cerberus and Cerberus always follows their favorite cheerleader....I am so disappointed in you DMC. dmc1001 is not indoctrinated. I support his idea with a couple of changes. It would be better to put the asari in Jack's hidey-hole, Emily Wong in Allers room and let Lawson move back into her office.
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Post by dazk on Aug 27, 2021 11:35:06 GMT
I chose Miranda for her capabilities and I like her character but I would have chosen Jack simply because I like her character and development. Playing Insanity this PT Jack is pretty useless though and I feel I am carrying her when i do take her whereas Miranda I take pretty much the majority of the time as she's capable against all enemies.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 27, 2021 15:56:55 GMT
are you indoctrinated by the Reapers? Miranda is with Cerberus and Cerberus always follows their favorite cheerleader....I am so disappointed in you DMC. dmc1001 is not indoctrinated. I support his idea with a couple of changes. It would be better to put the asari in Jack's hidey-hole, Emily Wong in Allers room and let Lawson move back into her office. Personally I would pull An Angry Marine and give the player the option to give Liara to Henry Lawson to experiment on and later on have a Liara as a Reaper Banshee as a boss battle during the Battle of Earth in the Citadel. Some how an Tyrannid is involved in this.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 27, 2021 19:31:54 GMT
How about putting Liara in Diana's room and allowing Miranda back into her office? are you indoctrinated by the Reapers? Miranda is with Cerberus and Cerberus always follows their favorite cheerleader....I am so disappointed in you DMC. She sure wasn't with Cerberus in ME3. Seems like there was something about them hunting her down.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 27, 2021 19:32:54 GMT
are you indoctrinated by the Reapers? Miranda is with Cerberus and Cerberus always follows their favorite cheerleader....I am so disappointed in you DMC. dmc1001 is not indoctrinated. I support his idea with a couple of changes. It would be better to put the asari in Jack's hidey-hole, Emily Wong in Allers room and let Lawson move back into her office. I would support that. Actually, even works for the Shadow Broker being down where she wouldn't be distracted. It's perfect.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 27, 2021 20:31:34 GMT
are you indoctrinated by the Reapers? Miranda is with Cerberus and Cerberus always follows their favorite cheerleader....I am so disappointed in you DMC. She sure wasn't with Cerberus in ME3. Seems like there was something about them hunting her down. yeah i know she wasn't with Cerberus within ME3. Don't forget she is a high level asset for T.I.M. and has knowledge of several of their project and knowing of Charon Station.
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