Struggling to get through Andromeda after LE Mass Effect trilogy (LE-MET)

Again, you’re comparing a game that takes place in a single cluster compared to a quarter of a galaxy. Of course there will be less new races. Though the few we got we explored in far more detail and actually got to see it rather than just be told it, both of which are better. Quality over quantity.

All the races are rehashes (lesser is subjective) of things we’ve gotten previously. Turians are Space Romans, Asari are Space Greeks, Quarians are Space Romani, etc. Tell me which historical group the Angara or Kett are a copy of?
Also funny how you say the Milky Way races are just watered down copies of their MW selves when a lot of them run contrary to that, to the point some complained.
Sorry, I can’t take you seriously arguing this point when for years you’ve argued the exact opposite.

Even if this weren't reductionist (none of those 3 bear more than one or two cursory similarities to the cultures in question, all their cultures are patchworks of multiple human societies meshed together, and you didn't even categorize them correctly to their closest analogues of those) than Angara are Space Kurds by the same reductionism. 

And the Krogan were certainly watered down even more into klingon ripoffs by MEA, for one via removing the unique gender dynamic in their society that didn't really match any human one much (their most culturally alien feature). An entire settlement of females was something I would have eventually liked to explore in more depth than Wrex and Bakara simply telling me about it, but that now will not happen because MEA krogan don't organize themselves anything like MET krogan did for the past 1000 years, for some unexplained reason (likely real world politics). Instead they organize themselves like modern day humans.


No, I'm comparing a game that introduced 2 alien races, and deleted 15 of the previous ones (for a total of 5, 6 if you want to generously count the batarian added via DLC to just the MP) to the trilogy where the first game introduced by my count 13 new ones, the 2nd 4 new ones (for a total of 17) and the 3rd another 2 (total of 19). Simple math.

This being sapient races that actually got a model. I'm not counting varren, kilxen, andromeda dinosaurs, loki mechs, rem bots or anything that exists only as a word in the codex/dialogue.

And they aren't "better". That's an opinion, and one not borne out in their reception. They retread too much ground already done by the deleted 15.

Those two certainly weren't considered worth trashing 3/4 of the beloved setting for most of us, evidenced by the relative performance of the game.

MET defenders do the same thing, don't let them fool you. I like both games, so I'm mainly here for the popcorn eating as it were. I would however like a sequel to MEA because regardless of all the complaints of the story being bland or bad or whatever, I think the idea (at the very least) is really cool. Going to another galaxy to hopefully save the races of the Milky Way from total extinction could be a great story and is a great way to get something new and still link it to the OT. And with the new galaxy, you have tons of freedom to create the story you want. But MET only elitists don't want to give bioware that chance.

But to your point of the characters comparing favorably, I'd have to agree, other than Liam, who I find annoying af, there's not really anyone on the MEA "main" cast shall we say that I don't like.

Doctor Lexi > Doctor Chawkas/Michel
Drack > Wrex/Grunt
Peebee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liara


I can take or leave half the ME2 cast as well

Yeah its ridicilous. I like all of them, just 1 and A more than the rest, but the justification of some 'hate' and 'being lesser' is so ridicilous I'm thinking most of that stuff comes from 12 year old kids. Or then the 3mp 'veterans' who cannot take any criticism

Where did I say they were lying? I'm just saying no one is going to outwardly shit on a game they worked on lmao. Also, it works both ways. You're 100% sure it's right because it goes with your personal feelings on the game. When I said you could feel them being bored, that was just my observation, maybe I shouldn't have used that as an argument cause I can't know for sure and that's just my feeling.

Either way, the game is boring to me and will always be and I can never get into it. I can't really explain it either, other than the story or the characters didn't pull me in and didn't interest me.  

If such things were archaic and never properly implemented in the first place I would hope that they would move on them.  Paragon and Renegade, while iconic, probably also was one of the weaker elements from the trilogy...and those types of choices were still in Andromeda, just without the associated 'points'.  

I have never seen Paragon and Renegade used as a selling point at all, let alone one of the main ones.

I disagree that it wouldn't have been successful. We see it was in Dragon Age since those decisions are talked about more than Mass Effect's and they didn't use a simplistic Paragon/Renegade morality system. Heck the decision most talked about with the Shepard Trilogy is one that doesn't involve that system at all: the endings. 

But sure, maybe it was used as a selling point and I didn't see it. My point of it not being one of the main ones still stands though. 

Lmao hilarious projection here

Considering this thread in the MET section is flooded with salty Andromeda stans telling the poster how wrong they are for criticizing a 7/10 game when they are used to getting 9-9.5/10 games from the same franchise.

Is the MEA section full of METrolls trying to crap on y'all's parade everytime you make a thread too? I wouldn't know because I have no interest.

I looked and saw nothing of the sort, save one thread specifically asking what people's criticisms of Andromeda were.

MET fans who don't like it seem to largely ignore the MEA section.