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Post by theascendent on Jul 4, 2021 10:35:51 GMT
Once again we get another character concept art, this time showing of the notorious Assassin's Guild that rules Antiva.
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Post by janalilith on Jul 4, 2021 16:18:49 GMT
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 4, 2021 16:54:09 GMT
So we have the Dark Lady in this image with flowing locks, but probably because she is just posing rather than seriously engaging in conflict. Then we have this character from the teaser trailer. Could possibly be the same as the bare chested dude in the latest image. These look to be in the same city as the latest concept art, judging from the window on the top right. However, the majority of the architecture in the latest concept art seems more like that in this image below, which we have all assumed must be somewhere in Tevinter. Mind you, I've already said on the Twitter discussion thread that since Tevinter once occupied Antiva, having some similarities in architecture isn't totally impossible. Also, what do you make of the fiery glow both in the latest art and in the teaser trailer? Extra intense street lighting or is the city on fire?
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 4, 2021 18:49:48 GMT
These look to be in the same city as the latest concept art, judging from the window on the top right. However, the majority of the architecture in the latest concept art seems more like that in this image below, which we have all assumed must be somewhere in Tevinter. Mind you, I've already said on the Twitter discussion thread that since Tevinter once occupied Antiva, having some similarities in architecture isn't totally impossible. Also, what do you make of the fiery glow both in the latest art and in the teaser trailer? Extra intense street lighting or is the city on fire? Maybe it is all Tevinter, which might explain the magical glow around the castle, though I'm still leaning towards Antiva. I think the fiery glow is from street lighting, but the first time I saw the teaser I thought the city was on fire. In the trailer, it doesn't seem to move the way fire would.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 4, 2021 18:53:08 GMT
These look to be in the same city as the latest concept art, judging from the window on the top right. However, the majority of the architecture in the latest concept art seems more like that in this image below, which we have all assumed must be somewhere in Tevinter. Mind you, I've already said on the Twitter discussion thread that since Tevinter once occupied Antiva, having some similarities in architecture isn't totally impossible. Also, what do you make of the fiery glow both in the latest art and in the teaser trailer? Extra intense street lighting or is the city on fire? Maybe it is all Tevinter, which might explain the magical glow around the castle, though I'm still leaning towards Antiva. I think the fiery glow is from street lighting, but the first time I saw the teaser I thought the city was on fire. In the trailer, it doesn't seem to move the way fire would. I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 4, 2021 19:08:32 GMT
Maybe it is all Tevinter, which might explain the magical glow around the castle, though I'm still leaning towards Antiva. I think the fiery glow is from street lighting, but the first time I saw the teaser I thought the city was on fire. In the trailer, it doesn't seem to move the way fire would. I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places. Interesting, where did you hear that? It is definitely possible more of the game takes place in Tevinter than we think and these are just different cities/areas. I do want each area to get done well and not like Val Royeaux so I'd be ok with not going to Antiva.
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Post by theascendent on Jul 4, 2021 19:30:34 GMT
Am I the only one interested in the opera box in the corner. Personally I think that the crows are attacking some Venatori in Tevinter, this explains the cityscape. Maybe they attacked an opera house in Minrathous.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 4, 2021 20:07:47 GMT
I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places. Interesting, where did you hear that? It is definitely possible more of the game takes place in Tevinter than we think and these are just different cities/areas. I do want each area to get done well and not like Val Royeaux so I'd be ok with not going to Antiva. From someone who heard from someone else who seems to know, so I’m taking it with a mountain of salt. But if true, it’s the first good piece of news about this game I’ve heard. Yeah I’d prefer they focus on Tevinter. Maybe Par Vollen since the Qun-Tevinter War seems to be a huge part. Or maybe instead the Anderfels since the Blight seems to be involved (and otherwise they are cut off from other countries). Antiva and maybe Rivain I think would be better together, maybe if the focus of DA5 will be about exploring beyond the continent of Thedas since there have been clues (both famous for ships, Josephine wanting to know what’s beyond the map, the Executors probably being set up in DA4, etc).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 4, 2021 20:08:33 GMT
Am I the only one interested in the opera box in the corner. Personally I think that the crows are attacking some Venatori in Tevinter, this explains the cityscape. Maybe they attacked an opera house in Minrathous. Possibly. That one guy falling does look like they’re wearing Tevinter armor.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 5, 2021 6:52:29 GMT
I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places. This was always my assumption, although I suppose the magical castle could be Antiva City's Circle of Magi, which would explain the magical aura. Since every outcome at the end of Trespasser has an independent College of Enchanters and a loyalist Circle of Magi, usually the more politically powerful group because of the presence of Vivienne as either Grand Enchanter or Divine, the castle could well be run by loyalist mages. The other argument against it being Tevinter is that the concept artist had labelled many of the day time coastal city pictures as being from Antiva and of course the architecture illustrating the short story "The Wake" was also of the same type and that was definitely set in Antiva. Am I the only one interested in the opera box in the corner. Personally I think that the crows are attacking some Venatori in Tevinter, this explains the cityscape. Maybe they attacked an opera house in Minrathous. The people they are attacking definitely look to be from Tevinter, which gives me hope that the labeling of the artwork was to throw people off and the majority of the pictures of a city by the sea were in fact of Minrathous, although they could equally be any major Tevinter city as the majority of these are on the coast (remember the Neromenians were essentially a seafaring group of people so it makes sense that the culture that grew out of them would be based by the sea). Why would the Crows be fighting Tevinter citizens based in Antiva? They have a common enemy in the Qun so it would make sense to ally with them. However, if Venatori are actively preventing a united response in Tevinter itself, it would make sense that Crows are still being employed to take out their leaders, whether by the same employer as in the Wigmaker Job or someone else, the Archon for instance. That is what people do when they do not want either to be seen taking direct action themselves or do not have the human resources to do so; they employ the Crows. The Crow leadership would also approve such action if it means Tevinter mount a proper counter attack again the Qun, as that would indirectly help the defense of Antiva by requiring the Antaam to concentrate their efforts away from their country. Which brings us back to that quote in the video last year that the writers are exploring what happens when the people in charge aren't taking action. Our hero is presumably meant to be ensuring that the problems are being dealt with. Working with the Crows to remove obstacles to a proper response to the Qunari, or even Solas, would fit with this alleged intent on the part of the writers. So I definitely think this latest artwork is story boarding a scene from Tevinter not Antiva.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 5, 2021 7:31:51 GMT
Why would the Crows be fighting Tevinter citizens based in Antiva? If this image is in Antiva and those are Tevinter men they're fighting - then perhaps the Venatori are striking back at the Crows by attacking their organisation at the heart rather than be on the defensive against individual assassins.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 5, 2021 7:45:42 GMT
If this image is in Antiva and those are Tevinter men they're fighting - then perhaps the Venatori are striking back at the Crows by attacking their organisation at the heart rather than be on the defensive against individual assassins. I'll admit that could be a possibility except I would have thought the Venatori would have far too much trouble to deal with back home, what with the Viper, the Lucerni and the Qun, that they would be attempting to attack the Crows on their home turf. That leader of the Venatori, Magister Renata, seemed to have a plan about using Lucanis for her own ends and was focused on him personally rather than his organisation. I suppose it is possible she mind controlled him into attacking the Crows, which would probably seem fitting revenge to her, but he is allegedly dead now, so that would seem an end to it. Anyway, a wise leader would realise it is not the Crows they need to worry about but the person who employed them and Tevinter Nights did seem to portray her as having some degree of guile. She also advised her fellow Venatori to keep a low profile so as not to attract the attention of Lucanis or other Crows employed for a similar purpose to him.. From a logistics point of view, how would Venatori be able to travel to Antiva with the entire eastern seaboard of Tevinter overrun by the Qun and the sea passage to the west also likely blockaded by them? If these were isolated Venatori, either left over from Corypheus' time or refugees from occupied territory, I would have thought self preservation would make them keep their heads down or even try to curry favour with the Crow leadership, not effectively commit suicide by taking them on.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 8:45:56 GMT
So we have the Dark Lady in this image with flowing locks, but probably because she is just posing rather than seriously engaging in conflict. Then we have this character from the teaser trailer. Could possibly be the same as the bare chested dude in the latest image. These look to be in the same city as the latest concept art, judging from the window on the top right. However, the majority of the architecture in the latest concept art seems more like that in this image below, which we have all assumed must be somewhere in Tevinter. Mind you, I've already said on the Twitter discussion thread that since Tevinter once occupied Antiva, having some similarities in architecture isn't totally impossible. Also, what do you make of the fiery glow both in the latest art and in the teaser trailer? Extra intense street lighting or is the city on fire? Do you forgot this? Hrungr Dec 28, 2020 at 9:29am Not that I expect there was much doubt about it, but this location is definitely Antiva. The video clip on Sean's Artstation is labeled "antiva-shot" Yes, the architecture has similarities, but as we have 4 short stories 4 scenes and 4 conceptarts i doubt that. I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places. If the rumor is correct, i belive more that it comes with another reboot then that this concept art is tevinter. But that would be quit scary. This would mean we wouldn't get the game before 2026.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 9:11:39 GMT
Am I the only one interested in the opera box in the corner. Personally I think that the crows are attacking some Venatori in Tevinter, this explains the cityscape. Maybe they attacked an opera house in Minrathous. I am interessted in the opera box too. But if i am thinking at leliana and Josephine, i think this is antiva. And i repeat my self with the 4 serie i belive more that the Venatori attack antiva then the crow attack in a war with the qunari tevinter.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 9:30:18 GMT
I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places. Interesting, where did you hear that? It is definitely possible more of the game takes place in Tevinter than we think and these are just different cities/areas. I do want each area to get done well and not like Val Royeaux so I'd be ok with not going to Antiva. If they do only Tevinter, i hope of a Denerim model. Because i hated Kirkwall, everything looked so gray and boring. I do want each area to look different, as different as in DAO Orzammar and Brecilian Forest.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 9:50:18 GMT
I hope it's all Tevinter (did hear a rumor Antiva actually isn't in the game *crosses fingers its real*) and yeah that would explain the magical Cinderella castle more since Antiva is never said to have a magical building like that while in Tevinter it could be any number of places. This was always my assumption, although I suppose the magical castle could be Antiva City's Circle of Magi, which would explain the magical aura. Since every outcome at the end of Trespasser has an independent College of Enchanters and a loyalist Circle of Magi, usually the more politically powerful group because of the presence of Vivienne as either Grand Enchanter or Divine, the castle could well be run by loyalist mages. The other argument against it being Tevinter is that the concept artist had labelled many of the day time coastal city pictures as being from Antiva and of course the architecture illustrating the short story "The Wake" was also of the same type and that was definitely set in Antiva. Am I the only one interested in the opera box in the corner. Personally I think that the crows are attacking some Venatori in Tevinter, this explains the cityscape. Maybe they attacked an opera house in Minrathous. The people they are attacking definitely look to be from Tevinter, which gives me hope that the labeling of the artwork was to throw people off and the majority of the pictures of a city by the sea were in fact of Minrathous, although they could equally be any major Tevinter city as the majority of these are on the coast (remember the Neromenians were essentially a seafaring group of people so it makes sense that the culture that grew out of them would be based by the sea). Why would the Crows be fighting Tevinter citizens based in Antiva? They have a common enemy in the Qun so it would make sense to ally with them. However, if Venatori are actively preventing a united response in Tevinter itself, it would make sense that Crows are still being employed to take out their leaders, whether by the same employer as in the Wigmaker Job or someone else, the Archon for instance. That is what people do when they do not want either to be seen taking direct action themselves or do not have the human resources to do so; they employ the Crows. The Crow leadership would also approve such action if it means Tevinter mount a proper counter attack again the Qun, as that would indirectly help the defense of Antiva by requiring the Antaam to concentrate their efforts away from their country. Which brings us back to that quote in the video last year that the writers are exploring what happens when the people in charge aren't taking action. Our hero is presumably meant to be ensuring that the problems are being dealt with. Working with the Crows to remove obstacles to a proper response to the Qunari, or even Solas, would fit with this alleged intent on the part of the writers. So I definitely think this latest artwork is story boarding a scene from Tevinter not Antiva. Sorry, i haven't see this before post the other. If this is tevinter. What is with the concept art with the mage, is that then antiva? I don't belive so.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 10:02:27 GMT
If this image is in Antiva and those are Tevinter men they're fighting - then perhaps the Venatori are striking back at the Crows by attacking their organisation at the heart rather than be on the defensive against individual assassins. I'll admit that could be a possibility except I would have thought the Venatori would have far too much trouble to deal with back home, what with the Viper, the Lucerni and the Qun, that they would be attempting to attack the Crows on their home turf. That leader of the Venatori, Magister Renata, seemed to have a plan about using Lucanis for her own ends and was focused on him personally rather than his organisation. I suppose it is possible she mind controlled him into attacking the Crows, which would probably seem fitting revenge to her, but he is allegedly dead now, so that would seem an end to it. Anyway, a wise leader would realise it is not the Crows they need to worry about but the person who employed them and Tevinter Nights did seem to portray her as having some degree of guile. She also advised her fellow Venatori to keep a low profile so as not to attract the attention of Lucanis or other Crows employed for a similar purpose to him.. From a logistics point of view, how would Venatori be able to travel to Antiva with the entire eastern seaboard of Tevinter overrun by the Qun and the sea passage to the west also likely blockaded by them? If these were isolated Venatori, either left over from Corypheus' time or refugees from occupied territory, I would have thought self preservation would make them keep their heads down or even try to curry favour with the Crow leadership, not effectively commit suicide by taking them on. Does it give a map where you exactly see how far they have conquered?
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 10:17:22 GMT
I have a theory: We got 4 scenes in the teaser, 4 short storys and 4 Concept arts. Since I think the 4 has a principle here, we will probably get a next row of four. (if my fear of a reboot ain't true ) What can it be????
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Post by colfoley on Jul 5, 2021 10:55:10 GMT
I have a theory: We got 4 scenes in the teaser, 4 short storys and 4 Concept arts. Since I think the 4 has a principle here, we will probably get a next row of four. (if my fear of a reboot ain't true ) What can it be???? I would think its a bit premature to suggest we are not going to get any more concept art given how long away DA is.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 5, 2021 11:08:48 GMT
I have a theory: We got 4 scenes in the teaser, 4 short storys and 4 Concept arts. Since I think the 4 has a principle here, we will probably get a next row of four. (if my fear of a reboot ain't true ) What can it be???? I would think its a bit premature to suggest we are not going to get any more concept art given how long away DA is. I did not say that.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 5, 2021 14:55:22 GMT
Do you forgot this? Hrungr Dec 28, 2020 at 9:29am Not that I expect there was much doubt about it, but this location is definitely Antiva. The video clip on Sean's Artstation is labeled "antiva-shot" I thought this label related to all the other city by the sea artwork but specifically NOT including this neon lit night time city view. If this is tevinter. What is with the concept art with the mage, is that then antiva? I don't belive so. If you mean the one with the lady mage on a back street, I definitely assumed that was Tevinter as well. It seemed to go with the neon lit one. Also this one from the teaser trailer: So if the latest shot is from Tevinter, that would make 4 Tevinter concept arts.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 5, 2021 15:11:28 GMT
Does it give a map where you exactly see how far they have conquered? According to Tevinter Nights and the comic series, they started off in Qarinus/Ventus, which is to the left (west) Arlathan Forest on the north coast. They then proceeded down the eastern seaboard of the Nocen Sea, ending with Neromenian in Dark Fortress, which is by that indentation about two thirds of the way down the eastern coast. Assuming the navy is part of the Antaam, then to prevent any help arriving by sea, the logical thing would be to blockage the Ventosus Straits, which is the stretch of water between the headland to the west of Qarinus/Ventus and Seheron. It is possible that Vyrantium (at the foot of the Nocen Sea) is still free but that depends on how long after Dark Fortress we enter to the story and how much effort Tevinter put into defending it. They have been pitiful up to now. Also, Rasaan took at detachment of the Antaam with her to track down Genetivi and Co on the Silent Plains and she was specifically looking for information on Solas, so it is possible there is a method to their conquest that is directing efforts towards sites that could be connected with the ancient elves. Both Qarinus and Neromenian are very ancient human cities that could well have been constructed on top of elven ruins. The Qun also seemed to be trying to infiltrate Arlathan Forest as well.
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Post by janalilith on Jul 5, 2021 15:31:18 GMT
All the pics look like a city at night under ambush. I hate to speculate this early in concept art because I'm usually wrong, but all the images are at night, in what look to be a city that is fairly empty but for soldiers. There are sparks from fires in the air (particularly in that image of The Crows) so it just seems this City, I'm guessing Minrathus, is under siege for some reason. That one figure drinking from the cup of wine seems to be contemplating what's about to go down and how they will take part.
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