KOTOR Remake confirmed, PS5/PC timed Exclusivity

ok, it's easier to sort out which posts are good than which ones aren't.

So I'm moving all the posts out, then moving the solid ones back.

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ok, this is what has happened:

We have a forum rule about game developers which I'll quote:

"Game Developers

We give special protection from harassment to game developers.
Many developers lurk on our forums, some visible, others invisible. Without their work, we have no forum.
Breaking the rules with a developer as the target will lead to a more immediate and firmer response than our standard rules, so don’t do it."

Even if a developer becomes very senior where legitimate critique may become reasonable as they have become a mouth-piece for a company, personal attacks are not.

In this thread matters became targeted and personal (around 3 pages worth), which is not going to stand.

There wasn't a practical way to remove the 'fair critique' from the 'toxicity' so that line of debate has gone (along with a section of digression concerning the merits or otherwise of the modern-day Star Wars movie franchise). Sorry if anyone's fair posts were removed, it was just collateral damage.

I should add that there was a good portion of 'bad faith' posting going on designed simply to wind people up and provoke a response. Let's do a good deal less of that please.

(we'll take a look at the 3 pages of steaming content to see if we need to take any other actions.   )

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Going forward, please discuss KOTOR Remake as you will, but please leave individual developers out of it unless they comment on the KOTOR Remake in the press (and then their involvement in the topic should stay civil and relevant)



On with the show.

(I really liked the original KOTOR, though I find it has aged just too much for me to enjoyably play it now, perhaps the remake will be awesome)

I'm just wary of Sam Maggs, is that too much of a criticism?

So long as it stays civil, there were some nasty fights going on here. I will personally encourage all here to be civil and to be tentatively suspicious but not that is the only topic being discussed. Have any of you given though to what I warned about those same people using reactions such as the ones here to their advantage? If they do a bad job then give them respectful critics and if they surprise us with the game being better than we though and surpasses that then we are better for it while delivering critics (both good and bad in both cases). 

Don't you think her comments where specifically to raise other types of attention for the KOTOR Remake? There is no such thing as bad publicity as they say so please, share memes here and there but let's also discuss things as calmed as possible. 

I'm not sure what to think of a KotOR remake. Guess we'll have to wait and see how much of a fuck up is made (or not) After all failure is an option.

No, assuming you are wary of her ability as a writer, based on her past performance.  Because that is both civil and limited.

The danger is to put original KOTOR on a pedestal.

It was solid BioWare writing of its day (I see similarities to Dragon Age Origins)

But as the original is (in my view) essentially unplayable for a modern audience, they should press ahead with what they want to do, whilst respecting the original.

Who knows how much they will elaborate?

The romance options needing a significant upgrade seems pretty obvious.
The'll do away with the silent protagonist I would have thought.
Maybe it'll have multiplayer.
Do Aspyr pack their games with microtransactions?

Either way, it'll be nice to have a new version fit for today, I enjoyed the original.

Combat mechanics wasn't what I was thinking about, but you might be right.

Sam Maggs? What a ridiculous hire. Way to kill my interest in revisiting this beloved old IP. Nice moves Lucasfilm.

Out of curiosity, when did people last play the original?

I had a try when it went backward-compatible on Xbox but my brain seized up after about 5 minutes.

(I don't doubt the excellence of the original, I just think it has aged badly)

Must be 15 or so years for me. 

I started replaying it again this weekend after the remake announcement to get ideas about what things would most need improvement. It had been probably 5 years before that. I've actually been surprised how playable it still is. The prologue could be improved a lot but gets much better after that. Forgot how so many quests have several ways to complete them...we could use a lot more of that in current games. I'll make a complete list once I get all the way through.