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Post by Silvery on Jan 25, 2021 16:39:24 GMT
Saw this on Reddit last night and that no one has posted it here yet. It's a rumor but I found it interesting enough to share.
Source article if you want to read itHere are the highlights: As reported by VGC, this latest rumor comes courtesy of credited Star Wars insider Bespin Bulletin, who spoke on a recent B.O.B. The Podcast episode about this project that is said to be in development outside of EA and that "we’ll ‘never guess’ who the studio is that’s making this game.” “Amongst my digging, I heard there is a Knights of the Old Republic project in development somewhere,” Bespin Bulletin said. “I talked to a couple of people, and I also found out that Jason Schreier said that it’s not with EA, and we’ll ‘never guess’ who the studio is that’s making this game.” Bloomberg's Jason Schreier has previously spoken of a potential KOTOR project, both on ResetERA and Twitter, and his words echo Bespin Bulletin's comments. Furthermore, Wushu Studio's Nate Najda also took to ResetERA in response to this to say "It's not as mysterious as you think. It's just not a household name most people are aware of."
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jan 25, 2021 16:57:10 GMT
KOTOR rumors pop up pretty much every year so hard to get my hopes up, but Disney ending exclusivity with EA probably does increase the odds of it finally happening. Not sure who would be making the game though - would've preferred BioWare or Obsidian.
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Post by Balsam Beige on Jan 25, 2021 17:00:31 GMT
Not sure if it is true but many outlets are reporting it. So hopefully. 🙂
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Post by Garo on Jan 26, 2021 14:32:23 GMT
Wonder why BW didn't get it
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jan 26, 2021 16:19:45 GMT
Wonder why BW didn't get it Could be many reasons 1. They don't have time for it with other projects 2. They would rather focus on their own IP 3. Disney found someone else they think would be better for the project Kind of hard to imagine it strictly being #3 given the success of the original KOTOR, although maybe they don't like how SWTOR is being handled. Or Disney wants the KOTOR game to be very different than the original. #1 and 2 seem reasonable to me. BioWare has DA4 for 2022/2023 and ME5 after that, plus Anthem 2.0. Not sure where they'd find the room for this.
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Post by saandrig on Jan 27, 2021 12:30:21 GMT
Wonder why BW didn't get it Could be many reasons 1. They don't have time for it with other projects 2. They would rather focus on their own IP 3. Disney found someone else they think would be better for the project Kind of hard to imagine it strictly being #3 given the success of the original KOTOR, although maybe they don't like how SWTOR is being handled. Or Disney wants the KOTOR game to be very different than the original. #1 and 2 seem reasonable to me. BioWare has DA4 for 2022/2023 and ME5 after that, plus Anthem 2.0. Not sure where they'd find the room for this. No one likes how SWTOR was handled 😅 Anthem 2.0 seems abandoned at this point. I'd be surprised if it's even an option. If they wanted to revive the IP, they should have done it by now. The game is practically forgotten by everyone and even a year ago any news about it received little to absolutely no traction by the gaming community.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 28, 2021 7:34:52 GMT
Since we have kept hearing about a new Knights of the Old Republic game for years my skeptical hat is going to stay on. Just because one place that quotes another article which quotes another article which quotes a Reddit post doesn't seem like solid confirmation. Not to mention the public release that Massive is making a Star Wars game which I am pretty sure is going to be about as much fun as Anthem for me.
Personally I am a little more disappointed its not Obsidian being tapped to make it over BioWare. I preferred Knights of the Old Republic 2 more then the first game until they had to start massively cutting content to get the game released.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 28, 2021 7:36:34 GMT
Could be many reasons 1. They don't have time for it with other projects 2. They would rather focus on their own IP 3. Disney found someone else they think would be better for the project Kind of hard to imagine it strictly being #3 given the success of the original KOTOR, although maybe they don't like how SWTOR is being handled. Or Disney wants the KOTOR game to be very different than the original. #1 and 2 seem reasonable to me. BioWare has DA4 for 2022/2023 and ME5 after that, plus Anthem 2.0. Not sure where they'd find the room for this. No one likes how SWTOR was handled 😅 Anthem 2.0 seems abandoned at this point. I'd be surprised if it's even an option. If they wanted to revive the IP, they should have done it by now. The game is practically forgotten by everyone and even a year ago any news about it received little to absolutely no traction by the gaming community. Hard to say with Anthem. Since its sounds like its mostly an overhaul of endgame systems and they had an update at the end of October I think its still happening its just not a priority. Personally I am interested to see what happens. After misstep after misstep trying to get The Division 2 to work by Massive I am interesting to see what happens if they just go back to the drawing board instead of constantly making alterations.
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Post by Frost on Jan 28, 2021 14:09:35 GMT
It would be great to have a new KOTOR game. I will wait to hear which studio is making it and what type of game they are making before getting excited, though.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2021 23:30:44 GMT
If it's without EA that would mean it would have to be without BW. I guess I'd have to see the studio before making any kind of judgment.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 3, 2021 22:00:58 GMT
Apparently, Aspyr Media is the studio handling the KOTOR remake. Courtney Woods is the Lead Writer. www.resetera.com/threads/aspyr-media-is-working-on-an-aaa-70-million-title-kotor.372402/Raigor:This came from Embracer recent acquisition: Aspyr has an exciting pipeline and is looking to build on its vast catalogue during the next few years as well as to bring out new content based on multiple licensed IP’s. Aspyr currently has several games under development including one major ongoing game development project with an approximately budget of USD 70 million that is expected to become important for the entire group. These development projects will engage more than 200 internal and external developers with the core team in Austin, Texas, and will contribute to Embracer’s release slate in the coming years. EMBRACER JUST CONFIRMED IN A LIVE STREAM PRESENTATION THAT ASPYR IS WORKING ON A TRIPLE-A LICENSED TITLE. That's the KOTOR confirmation! anexanhume:But you [Jason] said we’d never guess! jschreierI don't think a single person in that thread guessed this.
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Post by azarhal on Feb 3, 2021 22:43:24 GMT
A company known for porting games is making a AAA game. Somewhat not feeling it.
And going by what I'm reading, people are really jumping the gun on that game being a remake of KoTOR too (note that not a remake of KoTOR is different than it's not a Star Wars game).
Courtney Woods is ex-Bioware for people interested in those sort of things, mostly worked on SWTOR.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 3, 2021 22:54:00 GMT
A company known for porting games is making a AAA game. Somewhat not feeling it. And going by what I'm reading, people are really jumping the gun on that game being a remake of KoTOR too (note that not a remake of KoTOR is different than it's not a Star Wars game). Courtney Woods is ex-Bioware for people interested in those sort of things, mostly worked on SWTOR. It's mostly because Jason effectively confirmed it. He was the one who said a KOTOR remake was in the works, but that it wasn't with EA, and most wouldn't be able to guess who was making it.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Feb 3, 2021 23:30:36 GMT
There were rumors of this about a year ago (https://www.cinelinx.com/news/knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-might-be-back-in-the-cards-exclusive/) with some confusion over whether it was a sequel or a remake. Seems like this is probably the same thing.
I'd rather a brand new game than some kind of remake or reimagining, but the games are old enough that wouldn't be too bad either. I hope we learn more soon.
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Post by Hrungr on Feb 3, 2021 23:48:18 GMT
There were rumors of this about a year ago (https://www.cinelinx.com/news/knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-might-be-back-in-the-cards-exclusive/) with some confusion over whether it was a sequel or a remake. Seems like this is probably the same thing. I'd rather a brand new game than some kind of remake or reimagining, but the games are old enough that wouldn't be too bad either. I hope we learn more soon. Yeah, rumors have been floating around for a while now. But over the last month there were a couple of solid insiders chiming in on it. It'll be interesting to see how much / how little it follows the existing KOTOR (which is no longer canon). "Darth Revan" exists, but his story is no longer canon.
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Post by azarhal on Feb 4, 2021 0:11:58 GMT
A company known for porting games is making a AAA game. Somewhat not feeling it. And going by what I'm reading, people are really jumping the gun on that game being a remake of KoTOR too (note that not a remake of KoTOR is different than it's not a Star Wars game). Courtney Woods is ex-Bioware for people interested in those sort of things, mostly worked on SWTOR. It's mostly because Jason effectively confirmed it. He was the one who said a KOTOR remake was in the works, but that it wasn't with EA, and most wouldn't be able to guess who was making it. As far as I'm concerned, Jason only confirmed that Aspyr is the other studio making a Star Wars game beside Ubisoft Massive that was mentioned a few weeks ago. He used "the KoTOR studio" to refer to it once, but I feel that was mostly to go with his entire twitter feed only talking about a KoTOR remake for 2 years straight every time none-EA Star Wars game rumors are brought up. Last year, he didn't even want to talk about the KoTOR remake rumors because he wasn't certain it was a remake. I don't think that actually changed. Just like people jumped into "KoTOR remake" when the Luminous Project leaked. The reason: someone somewhere said the Luminous Project was set in the Old Republic. LucasArts as since renamed that period (200 years before movies) the High Republic to avoid the confusion. Then you add the rest of the rumor that claim it supposedly merged both KoTOR's plot. How does that even work? The only thing that links both plots is that Tenebrae is there in the background manipulating shit and you don't even learn that in either of the games. It's something you learn in a novel made for SWTOR and in SWTOR. Oh and apparently there is a movie or TV series too. The entire rumor set sound like it's part of the High Republic project which fit with the movie/TV series + other medias rumors. Or people are confusing the whole together, but going by Disney has been managing the brand, it being part of the High Republic makes sense.
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Post by chris2365 on Feb 5, 2021 3:02:46 GMT
I remember an interview with the head of Star Wars, Kathleen Kennedy, saying that they were looking into developing the Old Republic setting. Who knows if that eventually morphed into the High Republic we are hearing about now, anything is possible.
That being said, if BioWare cannot work on a KOTOR remake, I think Aspyr Media would be the next best developer for the job. At least they have worked with the original KOTOR games during porting and have some former BioWare employees.
In an ideal world, I would love to see a remake of both KOTOR games. I would not mind if the combat systems got updated to make them more "modern", but they can also keep the classic D20 system. What really matters to me, and I think to a bunch of KOTOR fans as well, is that the story and characters of both games are respected as much as possible. For example, I would love a KOTOR game with updated combat and levels, but still follows the same base story of "Get Star Maps, destroy Star Forge". If the KOTOR remake can retain the original voice actors, even better!
Also, I hope they keep the original music themes in the remakes. Those songs make up so much of the game's identity for me, it would be a shame if they flushed down the drain.
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Post by sentinel87 on Feb 11, 2021 16:04:03 GMT
This sort of confuses me. So there is a straight upscale being worked on and a remake in the works. The remake is supposed to include changes in line with the newer films. What exactly would they need to include in KOTOR to make it fit in with the new Disney canon? I've only seen the newer movies each once but don't recall anything that would really need to be included in KOTOR, which takes place long before the movies, to make it fit in. The only thing that I can see this doing is returning KOTOR I and II back to canon since they are released under Disney.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 11, 2021 16:28:23 GMT
This sort of confuses me. So there is a straight upscale being worked on and a remake in the works. The remake is supposed to include changes in line with the newer films. What exactly would they need to include in KOTOR to make it fit in with the new Disney canon? I've only seen the newer movies each once but don't recall anything that would really need to be included in KOTOR, which takes place long before the movies, to make it fit in. The only thing that I can see this doing is returning KOTOR I and II back to canon since they are released under Disney. Removing choices and making it more a linear story with only preset outcomes (like Fallen Order) maybe? Also maybe some planet redesigns, like Malachor since it shows up in Star Wars: Rebels.
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Post by Julilla on Apr 21, 2021 18:47:09 GMT
There is an update here: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-04-21-star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-developed-by-aspyrI'm not happy if they try to make it closer to canon, because that means no female Revan. This game was the first game where I was able to play as a female and that choice was acknowledged and I had a different experience playing than my husband because of it. It is the reason I came to BW boards in the first place oh so many years ago. If they take out the ability to choose a female, I have no interest.
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Post by azarhal on Apr 21, 2021 19:42:47 GMT
There is an update here: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-04-21-star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-developed-by-aspyrI'm not happy if they try to make it closer to canon, because that means no female Revan. This game was the first game where I was able to play as a female and that choice was acknowledged and I had a different experience playing than my husband because of it. It is the reason I came to BW boards in the first place oh so many years ago. If they take out the ability to choose a female, I have no interest. They don't mean closer to Revan's SW canon (as they are currently none, that's Legend stuff). They mean closer to Disney Star Wars Canon, which is limited to movies era +/- a few decades each side. Revan was ~4000 years before the movies in the pre-Disney era. Every comments about the Aspyr project point to an High Republic era game timeline wise and I have no idea how they would remake KoTOR into that era (which is already established with content released).
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Post by Iakus on Apr 21, 2021 19:55:48 GMT
Remaking one of Bioware's greatest games?
Yeah, I sense a great disturbance in the Force.
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Post by sentinel87 on Apr 21, 2021 22:23:53 GMT
Every comments about the Aspyr project point to an High Republic era game timeline wise and I have no idea how they would remake KoTOR into that era (which is already established with content released).
This doesn't sound good to me. This would make some sense though if they wanted to remake KOTOR in line with Disney canon as the High Republic is the new thing for Star Wars. Still leaves me worried if true.
The good thing with having KOTOR take place thousands of years prior to the movies is that it gives a lot of plausible reasons for the story to be muddled and less impactful to the movie era characters.
Revan needs to be treated very carefully overall. While I would love to have Revan brought back into Star Wars canon nothing take me out of whatever story they were trying tell if they said something about Revan that would make me go "hey, that's not what Revan did or who Revan was". Any mention should allow for whatever the player chose in the games to be possible in the newer stories Disney tells.
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Post by chris2365 on Apr 22, 2021 1:01:07 GMT
Every comments about the Aspyr project point to an High Republic era game timeline wise and I have no idea how they would remake KoTOR into that era (which is already established with content released).
This doesn't sound good to me. This would make some sense though if they wanted to remake KOTOR in line with Disney canon as the High Republic is the new thing for Star Wars. Still leaves me worried if true.
The good thing with having KOTOR take place thousands of years prior to the movies is that it gives a lot of plausible reasons for the story to be muddled and less impactful to the movie era characters.
Revan needs to be treated very carefully overall. While I would love to have Revan brought back into Star Wars canon nothing take me out of whatever story they were trying tell if they said something about Revan that would make me go "hey, that's not what Revan did or who Revan was". Any mention should allow for whatever the player chose in the games to be possible in the newer stories Disney tells.
Part of me hopes that the backlash that the recent sequel trilogy received will force Disney to be more careful when it comes to their story and lore decisions for future games/movies. I would not mind if Disney made some some small changes to make it fit with canon better, but the core of the story, themes and characters should remain intact. That's what makes it KOTOR in the first place. I'm also curious about the potential announcement timing for this remake. Given that the rumors of development first started circulating in January 2020, I wonder if a reveal on May 4th (Star Wars Day) or at E3 this year would be realistic.
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