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"n a MinnMax Video Interview, Bloomberg's Jason Schreier talks about a number of topics, including Press Reset, his new book on the "unsustainable aspects of the game industry." Jason also backs up recent rumors that a new Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is in development. He says the studio on this aspirational project is Aspyr"
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Post by Iakus on Apr 22, 2021 13:23:58 GMT
This doesn't sound good to me. This would make some sense though if they wanted to remake KOTOR in line with Disney canon as the High Republic is the new thing for Star Wars. Still leaves me worried if true.
The good thing with having KOTOR take place thousands of years prior to the movies is that it gives a lot of plausible reasons for the story to be muddled and less impactful to the movie era characters.
Revan needs to be treated very carefully overall. While I would love to have Revan brought back into Star Wars canon nothing take me out of whatever story they were trying tell if they said something about Revan that would make me go "hey, that's not what Revan did or who Revan was". Any mention should allow for whatever the player chose in the games to be possible in the newer stories Disney tells.
Part of me hopes that the backlash that the recent sequel trilogy received will force Disney to be more careful when it comes to their story and lore decisions for future games/movies. I would not mind if Disney made some some small changes to make it fit with canon better, but the core of the story, themes and characters should remain intact. That's what makes it KOTOR in the first place. I'm also curious about the potential announcement timing for this remake. Given that the rumors of development first started circulating in January 2020, I wonder if a reveal on May 4th (Star Wars Day) or at E3 this year would be realistic. Given the High Republic and it's reception, I wouldn't bet on it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 22, 2021 15:44:49 GMT
With rumors that Revan will show up in the Acolyte series and eventually get his own, I’d say any chance of this remake being anything like it’s predecessor is shot. He’ll be a predefined character and there won’t be any RPG elements, or at least none worth noting.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 22, 2021 15:55:32 GMT
With rumors that Revan will show up in the Acolyte series and eventually get his own, I’d say any chance of this remake being anything like it’s predecessor is shot. He’ll be a predefined character and there won’t be any RPG elements, or at least none worth noting. In which case I'll not only not get it, I'll actively discourage others as well.
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Post by sentinel87 on Apr 22, 2021 19:11:09 GMT
It does look like the rumor is that Revan will appear in hologram form. That's fine to me as long as Revan doesn't speak or they can alter the voice so you cant' tell if it's male or female and it's from Revans time leading the Sith against the Republic right before the start of KOTOR. The rumor also says there may be a series. If that's the case I think they will have to make Revan a specific character thus alienating fans who have their own Revan. I really don't want a Revan series. Just a mention or a brief appearance in hologram form is awesome, anything else will hurt the character and the Star Wars universe to me. This bugs me because I know there have to be people who love KOTOR in Disney and know it's an RPG in which the player makes their own choices but they are going to be pushed to put out whatever makes the most money.
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Post by chris2365 on Apr 22, 2021 21:18:04 GMT
It does look like the rumor is that Revan will appear in hologram form. That's fine to me as long as Revan doesn't speak or they can alter the voice so you cant' tell if it's male or female and it's from Revans time leading the Sith against the Republic right before the start of KOTOR. The rumor also says there may be a series. If that's the case I think they will have to make Revan a specific character thus alienating fans who have their own Revan. I really don't want a Revan series. Just a mention or a brief appearance in hologram form is awesome, anything else will hurt the character and the Star Wars universe to me. This bugs me because I know there have to be people who love KOTOR in Disney and know it's an RPG in which the player makes their own choices but they are going to be pushed to put out whatever makes the most money. At first I thought Revan would be appearing as a holographic form in the new remake, and I got very concerned haha. Would be nice if he got a cameo in the new Acolyte TV show! As far as canonizing Revan's gender and appearance goes, I am torn. On the one hand, KOTOR is an RPG, and everyone should be free to wish that their choices for Revan and the story get reflected as much as possible. On the other hand, Revan has been designated in old canon (legends) as a man with a long flow since the mid 2000's, via books and eventually SWTOR. This has been his image since then, and Revan has continued to remain a popular character during this time. I doubt Disney would want to mess with what fans are already used to. From a practical point of view as well, it would be impossible to give Revan anything more than cameos if we had to leave his gender ambiguous. I am personally fine with Revan's appearance and voice in SWTOR. If I had the choice between ambiguous Revan who does not appear in any content besides the remake, or a canonized Revan who could feature more prominently in TV, movies or games, I would opt for the canonized option. Even if the decision was between an ambiguous Revan or a canon female Revan, I would prefer the canon option, even though that's not my preferred option, just so that there is certainty and continuity between the shows or films she would appear in. I agree that canonizing is the option that would allow Disney to profit the most, but it would impossible to feature Revan's character in-depth in any other medium without canonizing him in the first place.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 23, 2021 20:18:56 GMT
I'd be OK with them decanonizing SWTOR, myself.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 23, 2021 21:24:28 GMT
It does look like the rumor is that Revan will appear in hologram form. That's fine to me as long as Revan doesn't speak or they can alter the voice so you cant' tell if it's male or female and it's from Revans time leading the Sith against the Republic right before the start of KOTOR. The rumor also says there may be a series. If that's the case I think they will have to make Revan a specific character thus alienating fans who have their own Revan. I really don't want a Revan series. Just a mention or a brief appearance in hologram form is awesome, anything else will hurt the character and the Star Wars universe to me. This bugs me because I know there have to be people who love KOTOR in Disney and know it's an RPG in which the player makes their own choices but they are going to be pushed to put out whatever makes the most money. At first I thought Revan would be appearing as a holographic form in the new remake, and I got very concerned haha. Would be nice if he got a cameo in the new Acolyte TV show! As far as canonizing Revan's gender and appearance goes, I am torn. On the one hand, KOTOR is an RPG, and everyone should be free to wish that their choices for Revan and the story get reflected as much as possible. On the other hand, Revan has been designated in old canon (legends) as a man with a long flow since the mid 2000's, via books and eventually SWTOR. This has been his image since then, and Revan has continued to remain a popular character during this time. I doubt Disney would want to mess with what fans are already used to. *looks at the sequel trilogy* Ummmmm...
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Post by Iakus on Apr 23, 2021 21:24:58 GMT
I'd be OK with them decanonizing SWTOR, myself. I consider SWTOR its own canon. But then I don't consider Disney Wars canon at all.
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Post by azarhal on Apr 23, 2021 21:43:39 GMT
I'd be OK with them decanonizing SWTOR, myself. I consider SWTOR its own canon. But then I don't consider Disney Wars canon at all. I'm not the only one! As for SWTOR , it was always its own canons. Yes with a "s". Base game had all class stories happening in the same universe, but after that only one "class" advanced per faction and since Ossus Republic and Imperial are in parallel universes as the events can't happens at the same time.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Apr 23, 2021 22:44:43 GMT
I've always thought it is better for video games to have their own canon rather than be confined to the limitations of the movies, books, etc. Part of this is because there are things that benefit video games, like playing as a Jedi or using certain force powers, that may be fun but not necessarily fit the canon rules or time period strictly. And often in video games you are going to do more outrageous things than other media simply because that is enjoyable.
KOTOR had the advantage of being in a largely undefined (outside some comics) time period so they could do their own thing. Let's not try to make that fit into everything else. It doesn't need to. Part of the fun is having multiple endings and outcomes. Making anything canon will only take away from that.
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Post by chris2365 on Apr 24, 2021 3:59:26 GMT
At first I thought Revan would be appearing as a holographic form in the new remake, and I got very concerned haha. Would be nice if he got a cameo in the new Acolyte TV show! As far as canonizing Revan's gender and appearance goes, I am torn. On the one hand, KOTOR is an RPG, and everyone should be free to wish that their choices for Revan and the story get reflected as much as possible. On the other hand, Revan has been designated in old canon (legends) as a man with a long flow since the mid 2000's, via books and eventually SWTOR. This has been his image since then, and Revan has continued to remain a popular character during this time. I doubt Disney would want to mess with what fans are already used to.*looks at the sequel trilogy* Ummmmm... I knew that phrase would cause some debate haha. You are right, the sequel trilogy varied from copy paste jobs (Episode 7) to tearing down the past (Episode 8). I was just injecting my hopeful mentality into my statement. From a strictly video game point of view, it's definitely been more on the conservative side (Battlefront 2's campaign and Fallen Order come to mind) compared to the new movies, so hopefully that trend continues for the KOTOR remake.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 24, 2021 4:29:08 GMT
I've always thought it is better for video games to have their own canon rather than be confined to the limitations of the movies, books, etc. Part of this is because there are things that benefit video games, like playing as a Jedi or using certain force powers, that may be fun but not necessarily fit the canon rules or time period strictly. And often in video games you are going to do more outrageous things than other media simply because that is enjoyable. KOTOR had the advantage of being in a largely undefined (outside some comics) time period so they could do their own thing. Let's not try to make that fit into everything else. It doesn't need to. Part of the fun is having multiple endings and outcomes. Making anything canon will only take away from that. Fun fact: KOTOR is set about a generation after the Tales of the Jedi comic series. Bastilla Shan was originally supposed to be a now-adult Vima Sunrider (perhaps an explanation for why she also had the talent for Jedi battle mediation.)
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Post by azarhal on Apr 24, 2021 10:53:36 GMT
*looks at the sequel trilogy* Ummmmm... I knew that phrase would cause some debate haha. You are right, the sequel trilogy varied from copy paste jobs (Episode 7) to tearing down the past (Episode 8). I was just injecting my hopeful mentality into my statement. From a strictly video game point of view, it's definitely been more on the conservative side (Battlefront 2's campaign and Fallen Order come to mind) compared to the new movies, so hopefully that trend continues for the KOTOR remake. Something to keep in mind. Battlefront 2 campaign was made in part by ex-Bioware Montreal (Motive + Alex Freed who wrote SWTOR Imperial Agent storyline and SW novels) and Bio Montréal worked on SWTOR in the early days. Fallen Order feels Disney Wars to me despite being set in-between the first two trilogy. Titanfall 2 has better writing than Fallen Order too...(same studio). Saying that, Aspyr as Courtney Woods as Lead Writer, she started her video game dev career as a community manager for SWTOR and moved to the writing team.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 14:47:30 GMT
I knew that phrase would cause some debate haha. You are right, the sequel trilogy varied from copy paste jobs (Episode 7) to tearing down the past (Episode 8). I was just injecting my hopeful mentality into my statement. From a strictly video game point of view, it's definitely been more on the conservative side (Battlefront 2's campaign and Fallen Order come to mind) compared to the new movies, so hopefully that trend continues for the KOTOR remake. Something to keep in mind. Battlefront 2 campaign was made in part by ex-Bioware Montreal (Motive + Alex Freed who wrote SWTOR Imperial Agent storyline and SW novels) and Bio Montréal worked on SWTOR in the early days. Fallen Order feels Disney Wars to me despite being set in-between the first two trilogy. Titanfall 2 has better writing than Fallen Order too...(same studio). Saying that, Aspyr as Courtney Woods as Lead Writer, she started her video game dev career as a community manager for SWTOR and moved to the writing team. This doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, but great things have been done by unquantified individuals before. Despite the Schreier announcement, nothing has been officially confirmed anywhere that I can find. Thought the announcement of it would come on the 4th, but that ship sailed.
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Post by azarhal on May 6, 2021 19:06:23 GMT
Something to keep in mind. Battlefront 2 campaign was made in part by ex-Bioware Montreal (Motive + Alex Freed who wrote SWTOR Imperial Agent storyline and SW novels) and Bio Montréal worked on SWTOR in the early days. Fallen Order feels Disney Wars to me despite being set in-between the first two trilogy. Titanfall 2 has better writing than Fallen Order too...(same studio). Saying that, Aspyr as Courtney Woods as Lead Writer, she started her video game dev career as a community manager for SWTOR and moved to the writing team. This doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, but great things have been done by unquantified individuals before. Despite the Schreier announcement, nothing has been officially confirmed anywhere that I can find. Thought the announcement of it would come on the 4th, but that ship sailed. If they just started working on it, they aren't going to announce anything officially until late 2022-2023.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 20:50:41 GMT
Well, I guess that's my question.
There's been some guesswork as to when development on this project really started. Perhaps the recent "leak" refers to official development beginning.
I really don't know, and have hoped that this has been in development in earnest a little longer.
If not, then of course you are correct.
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Post by azarhal on May 6, 2021 22:15:55 GMT
Well, I guess that's my question. There's been some guesswork as to when development on this project really started. Perhaps the recent "leak" refers to official development beginning. I really don't know, and have hoped that this has been in development in earnest a little longer. If not, then of course you are correct. It can't release before 2023 anyway. That is when EA 10 years exclusivity contract ends with Disney. All the recent leaks about other companies making SW games are because Disney approved projects for release in 2023 and beyond once that contract ends.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 22:35:31 GMT
Well, I guess that's my question. There's been some guesswork as to when development on this project really started. Perhaps the recent "leak" refers to official development beginning. I really don't know, and have hoped that this has been in development in earnest a little longer. If not, then of course you are correct. It can't release before 2023 anyway. That is when EA 10 years exclusivity contract ends with Disney. All the recent leaks about other companies making SW games are because Disney approved projects for release in 2023 and beyond once that contract ends. Welp, I guess that's it then! In my mind, that contract was already void, but it is not
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 9, 2021 20:48:45 GMT
Hello, while I am usually in the Mass Effect area I ran into this bit of news, I am glad that this is happening and I hope it is available on other consoles but, why does this game (and Dead Space) get a Remake while the Mass Effect Legendary Edition gets a Remaster and with the same bugs and glitches, and cut content and the fact that we only get one scene with A/K on Horizon but regardless, here is the link (if modders think it is better to join my thread with someone else I won't be mad): www.gameinformer.com/2021/09/09/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-announced-for-ps5?fbclid=IwAR00w1o5aM2Yu33MrnG0h4COdXRwZXOWxccBUscPY514BxtrsAR5K93Hp9UEdit: As shown to me by a fellow commenter the game has been confirmed that this will be a timed exclusive to PS5/PC, here is the Tweet in question and thanks to the user who sent the tip:
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Post by ShadowAngel on Sept 9, 2021 21:05:38 GMT
I personally don’t think any of the ME games even need a remake but from a company perspective it likely comes down to cost of the project as well as their expectations on what they think the interest level will be for the public. I mean a remake is technically building the game from scratch after all, much more expensive than a remaster where you slap new paint on the exterior with maybe a few minor improvements to the UI or something.
I hear EA was surprised ME legendary did better than expected but personally they couldn’t even give actual numbers. Furthermore some articles put it out there like ME:L doing so well would mean more mass effect as if we didn’t already know that.
In general though, it’s up to the companies on whether they do a remake or remaster, a remaster tends to be the safer option as well as the cheaper one, remakes risk screwing things up if not handled right. Hell there are people out there that don’t see the point in dead space being remade and some are even worried it’ll actually be an inferior product to the original.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 9, 2021 21:17:37 GMT
I personally don’t think any of the ME games even need a remake but from a company perspective it likely comes down to cost of the project as well as their expectations on what they think the interest level will be for the public. I mean a remake is technically building the game from scratch after all, much more expensive than a remaster where you slap new paint on the exterior with maybe a few minor improvements to the UI or something. I hear EA was surprised ME legendary did better than expected but personally they couldn’t even give actual numbers. Furthermore some articles put it out there like ME:L doing so well would mean more mass effect as if we didn’t already know that. In general though, it’s up to the companies on whether they do a remake or remaster, a remaster tends to be the safer option as well as the cheaper one, remakes risk screwing things up if not handled right. Hell there are people out there that don’t see the point in dead space being remade and some are even worried it’ll actually be an inferior product to the original. Star War content is now overseen by Disney (hence why Bioware isn't involved), Dead Space only needed the zero g fixed as it is atrocious in the original because I understand it was a pretty solid entry, that EA was surprised that the LE did better than it did means they didn't payed attention to their user base.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 9, 2021 22:12:26 GMT
Pretty excited but surprised at no involvement period from bio. I guess disney really didn't put out a good output.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 9, 2021 22:23:12 GMT
It's weird hearing Queen Jenna talking in a Star Wars video game... I'm being facetious, don't mind me. edit: and now I wonder what they are going to change to make it part of the new canon (which also probably mean that SWTOR is going to go back to being semi-canon, bouahahahah).
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Sept 9, 2021 22:29:20 GMT
SWTOR can go fuck itself.
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