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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 16:45:37 GMT
I can still play the originals. I'm good. I don't need to give anyone my money. I don’t think anyone has to, if the end result isn’t something they’re interested in.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 10, 2021 16:59:34 GMT
I can still play the originals. I'm good. I don't need to give anyone my money. I can play it on my tablet. But it constantly crashes on my PC.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Sept 10, 2021 17:01:31 GMT
I'm just going to drop this nuke here and leave. www.starwars.com/news/knights-of-the-old-republic-remake“This is something that is important and impactful,” says Treadwell. “Our big goals on this are to bring the story to a modern audience and have it be just as impactful today as it was for players when it originally launched.” “We’ve been working really, really closely with Aspyr for a long time now to deconstruct what made KOTOR so great and bring that back to new audiences, because we want this game to be an incredible RPG,” says Kellogg. “We want this game to be just as beloved as it was before. Some of my favorite meetings to have in my week right now are to get into the nitty gritty with Aspyr and talk about, ‘Why did we make that choice in the original game and how does that play today? How do we expand that choice and make it even more meaningful and impactful?’ We think about, literally, every word of dialogue and [other choices] down to the clothes that the character is wearing.” archive.ph/0mk5s/99b9dd7ea36d965df5730cf35ac184a6110f018f.gif
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 17:02:47 GMT
Oh fiddlesticks
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 10, 2021 17:07:34 GMT
Well you still have the originals, they are available with all the mods etc.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 17:14:40 GMT
If the remake is going by Disney Wars canon how will they justify the player being able to change their lightsaber's color multiple times since the saber's crystal is now attuned to the force sensitive's alignment. This is assuming if they'll allow us to customize our sabers.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 17:15:38 GMT
I'm just going to drop this nuke here and leave. www.starwars.com/news/knights-of-the-old-republic-remake“This is something that is important and impactful,” says Treadwell. “Our big goals on this are to bring the story to a modern audience and have it be just as impactful today as it was for players when it originally launched.” “We’ve been working really, really closely with Aspyr for a long time now to deconstruct what made KOTOR so great and bring that back to new audiences, because we want this game to be an incredible RPG,” says Kellogg. “We want this game to be just as beloved as it was before. Some of my favorite meetings to have in my week right now are to get into the nitty gritty with Aspyr and talk about, ‘Why did we make that choice in the original game and how does that play today? How do we expand that choice and make it even more meaningful and impactful?’ We think about, literally, every word of dialogue and [other choices] down to the clothes that the character is wearing.” archive.ph/0mk5s/99b9dd7ea36d965df5730cf35ac184a6110f018f.gifI personally think that what thet're saying is good, but it wouldn't be the first time interviews before release, or even showing off the game, hyped up a game, ending later with people disappointed by the end result. I'm not saying that'll be the case here, only that it'd be best to not get too hyped about this, before they'll show the game. I'd say in a vacuum, what I'm more skeptical about is the combat system, as I fear there are good chances they'll go full action with it. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 17:17:33 GMT
If the remake is going by Disney Wars canon how will they justify the player being able to change their lightsaber's color multiple times since the saber's crystal is now attuned to the force sensitive's alignment. This is assuming if they'll allow us to customize our sabers. I haven't played FO yet, but doesn't the game allow you to customize your lightsaber? The game is definitely set in the Disney canon. It's not clear yet if the remake will follow the Disney canon or Legends.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 17:24:40 GMT
If the remake is going by Disney Wars canon how will they justify the player being able to change their lightsaber's color multiple times since the saber's crystal is now attuned to the force sensitive's alignment. This is assuming if they'll allow us to customize our sabers. I haven't played FO yet, but doesn't the game allow you to customize your lightsaber? The game is definitely set in the Disney canon. It's not clear yet if the remake will follow the Disney canon or Legends. iirc you only can change the saber's colors between the original jedi ones. Mind you i haven't played the game after it's launch month.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 17:28:30 GMT
I haven't played FO yet, but doesn't the game allow you to customize your lightsaber? The game is definitely set in the Disney canon. It's not clear yet if the remake will follow the Disney canon or Legends. iirc you only can change the saber's colors between the original jedi ones. Mind you i haven't played the game after it's launch month. It seems they added a few more, and there was one available for preorder only. www.ign.com/wikis/star-wars-jedi-fallen-order/How_To_Unlock_All_Lightsaber_Colors_in_Star_Wars_Jedi:_Fallen_OrderI hope they won't remove lightsaber customization in the remake, in any case.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 10, 2021 17:29:23 GMT
I haven't played FO yet, but doesn't the game allow you to customize your lightsaber? The game is definitely set in the Disney canon. Yep it does allow.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 17:34:12 GMT
They made orange a preorder bonus? gg EA. I almost feel like reinstalling FO now. I'll bookmark this link as an example if the devs try to screw us out of our rainbow sabers.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 10, 2021 17:40:44 GMT
I personally think that what thet're saying is good Personally, everything they say, has me worried. Nothing needs to be changed, nothing needs to be rewritten, or expanded, or clothes need to be changed. It just needs a fresh coat of paint and maybe do something about the gameplay. That's it.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 17:48:12 GMT
I personally think that what thet're saying is good Personally, everything they say, has me worried. Nothing needs to be changed, nothing needs to be rewritten, or expanded, or clothes need to be changed. It just needs a fresh coat of paint and maybe do something about the gameplay. That's it. I think they're changing things to fit Disney Wars canon. LF has been on a warpath to interject references of the sequel films into most of their stories like the prequel, and classic trilogy stories.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 10, 2021 17:51:43 GMT
Personally, everything they say, has me worried. Nothing needs to be changed, nothing needs to be rewritten, or expanded, or clothes need to be changed. It just needs a fresh coat of paint and maybe do something about the gameplay. That's it. I think they're changing things to fit Disney Wars canon. LF has been on a warpath to interject references of the sequel films into most of their stories like the prequel, and classic trilogy stories. It seems so and I don't care for it. LF can do whatever they want, my attachment to SW has been erased, at this point. It's just one more franchise that lost its fans.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 17:51:55 GMT
I personally think that what thet're saying is good Personally, everything they say, has me worried. Nothing needs to be changed, nothing needs to be rewritten, or expanded, or clothes need to be changed. It just needs a fresh coat of paint and maybe do something about the gameplay. That's it. I get your point of view...but I don't think that was ever going to happen if they'll make a remake. It's why I think that for a lot of people a remake of the ME trilogy, or DAO, isn't something they'd want, because they'd likely change things. Whenever a remake is involved, I at least consider the possibility of changes happening. I get that for your and others, even the minimal change might not be good, but I don't share that mindset. It doesn't mean that I'll accept any change they'll throw in, just that I'd consider them with an open mind. Besides, while I love KOTOR, I don't think it's perfect. No game is, in my mind. I like what they're saying because I don't think they want to overhaul the game...but again, those are just words for now.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 10, 2021 17:53:13 GMT
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 17:54:49 GMT
Based on Fallen Order's success, which was still made to fit the new Disney canon, I think the franchise is capable of generating huge numbers in terms of sales, although a remake could be received negatively depending on the direction they'll go for.
But I understand why people might be soured to the franchise.
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 17:56:14 GMT
I just meant that by going for a remake, there were good chances you wouldn't be interested in it from the start.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 18:08:01 GMT
Based on Fallen Order's success, which was still made to fit the new Disney canon, I think the franchise is capable of generating huge numbers in terms of sales, although a remake could be received negatively depending on the direction they'll go for. But I understand why people might be soured to the franchise. Tbh FO was one of the few bright spots in Disney Wars' canon like Luke's cameo in Nu Battlefront 2, and has lead me to believe that EA's writers are more capable than LucasFilm's and have a better understanding of the franchise's lore/universe. The remake might be decent if there's little to no interference from LucasFilm.
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 10, 2021 18:11:04 GMT
I'm just going to drop this nuke here and leave. www.starwars.com/news/knights-of-the-old-republic-remake“This is something that is important and impactful,” says Treadwell. “Our big goals on this are to bring the story to a modern audience and have it be just as impactful today as it was for players when it originally launched.” “We’ve been working really, really closely with Aspyr for a long time now to deconstruct what made KOTOR so great and bring that back to new audiences, because we want this game to be an incredible RPG,” says Kellogg. “We want this game to be just as beloved as it was before. Some of my favorite meetings to have in my week right now are to get into the nitty gritty with Aspyr and talk about, ‘Why did we make that choice in the original game and how does that play today? How do we expand that choice and make it even more meaningful and impactful?’ We think about, literally, every word of dialogue and [other choices] down to the clothes that the character is wearing.” archive.ph/0mk5s/99b9dd7ea36d965df5730cf35ac184a6110f018f.gifThe word "deconstruct" to me is an issue, for at least the way I take the word they aren't going to be looking at the game as a whole which is a mistake many other games make now (I would say that was a problem with Andromeda as they deconstructed the first three games). There are good examples like Resident Evil 2, there are "okay" examples like Resident Evil 3, and bad like Warcraft 3. So who knows until the final product is released, but I doubt I will have any interest until I see the game released.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 10, 2021 18:12:36 GMT
I'm just going to drop this nuke here and leave. www.starwars.com/news/knights-of-the-old-republic-remake“This is something that is important and impactful,” says Treadwell. “Our big goals on this are to bring the story to a modern audience and have it be just as impactful today as it was for players when it originally launched.” “We’ve been working really, really closely with Aspyr for a long time now to deconstruct what made KOTOR so great and bring that back to new audiences, because we want this game to be an incredible RPG,” says Kellogg. “We want this game to be just as beloved as it was before. Some of my favorite meetings to have in my week right now are to get into the nitty gritty with Aspyr and talk about, ‘Why did we make that choice in the original game and how does that play today? How do we expand that choice and make it even more meaningful and impactful?’ We think about, literally, every word of dialogue and [other choices] down to the clothes that the character is wearing.” archive.ph/0mk5s/99b9dd7ea36d965df5730cf35ac184a6110f018f.gifI personally think that what thet're saying is good, but it wouldn't be the first time interviews before release, or even showing off the game, hyped up a game, ending later with people disappointed by the end result. I'm not saying that'll be the case here, only that it'd be best to not get too hyped about this, before they'll show the game. I'd say in a vacuum, what I'm more skeptical about is the combat system, as I fear there are good chances they'll go full action with it. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong. Maybe what they're saying SOUNDS good. But talk is cheap. Plus look at who's going to make these "changes" Especially if they are thinking about "literally, every word of dialogue" 9 times out of ten, attempts to "modernize" or "update" a classic end up falling on their faces. I think this will be one of them.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Sept 10, 2021 18:13:29 GMT
I'm open to some changes for a remake but I don't want it to feel like a completely different game. If they start restricting things like dialogue options and choices, eliminating LS/DS points, or significantly alter the main story and companions then I would have liked them just to make a brand new game. Actually, I probably would have preferred that over a remake anyway. Kotor 3 has been the game I've wanted for many many years, and no SWTOR did not accomplish that. Still, I'm excited until I see something that concerns me. Quotes at this point are relatively meaningless. Probably won't be able to tell much until gameplay is shown.
Things I definitely would like changed and would actually improve the game: - Visuals (obviously) - New character creator with modern features to change appearance - Photo mode
Things I'm unsure about / depends on implementation: - Voiced protagonist - fine as long as it doesn't cause them to restrict dialogue options (silent is also fine by me but I think they will go with voiced) - Combat - again I think this will change but hopefully it doesn't go total action - Romances - I guess these could be expanded upon but not really necessary
Things I don't want changed or changes kept to a minimum - Main story - Companions - Dialogue options - Choices - LS/DS point system - Skills / Abilities - I fear some of these will be removed and dumbed down - If they want to add more that's ok - Protagonist (outside of things I've mentioned above)
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Post by The Elder King on Sept 10, 2021 18:16:04 GMT
Based on Fallen Order's success, which was still made to fit the new Disney canon, I think the franchise is capable of generating huge numbers in terms of sales, although a remake could be received negatively depending on the direction they'll go for. But I understand why people might be soured to the franchise. Tbh FO was one of the few bright spots in Disney Wars' canon like Luke's cameo in Nu Battlefront 2, and has lead me to believe that EA's writers are more capable than LucasFilm's and have a better understanding of the franchise's lore/universe. The remake might be decent if there's little to no interference from LucasFilm. I think it depends if their plan for KOTOR is strictly about games, or if they might want to expand/adapt this part of SW in other media. If so, they might have a bigger role in the remake. I think that overall, if they don't go for a full overhaul of the story, the remake will be at least decent, as I don't think that little story changes would scew up the original's story...as much as making the remake a failure, at least.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 10, 2021 18:33:40 GMT
Tbh FO was one of the few bright spots in Disney Wars' canon like Luke's cameo in Nu Battlefront 2, and has lead me to believe that EA's writers are more capable than LucasFilm's and have a better understanding of the franchise's lore/universe. The remake might be decent if there's little to no interference from LucasFilm. I think it depends if their plan for KOTOR is strictly about games, or if they might want to expand/adapt this part of SW in other media. If so, they might have a bigger role in the remake. I think that overall, if they don't go for a full overhaul of the story, the remake will be at least decent, as I don't think that little story changes would scew up the original's story...as much as making the remake a failure, at least. I have a suspicion that we might see a full overhaul of the story, and characters because Disney probably wants to minimize any chance of future royalties disputes with Drew Karpyshyn after the Alan Foster debacle.
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