KOTOR Kinghts of the Old Republic (Remake)

So what do you people want for the remake's character creator? Me personally I'd like one that's comparable to Eve Online's in terms of depth even though that seems about as likely as EA adopting UEV for ME5.

The only CC that i can remember with great defaults is Black Desert's, but there's only one default with 3 variations for each class, and it requires a lot of tinkering if you want a specific look.

Just make a good Jedi Jesus again, as a preset. That's all I want.

I didn’t get that impression from the blog, but it’ll be something, I’d say, that we can at least get an impression of, from a full reveal.

I didn’t get they’re necessarily going to change the default clothes from the blog. Besides, I don’t recall Bastila’s default to be that outrageous. And as you said, you could still equip her with different outfits. 

What you’re willing to accept are still changes in my mind, but I get your point. 

As for CC, I disagree. A ‘good preset’ is quite subjective. What I could find to be a good one, you could think it’s just decent or mediocre. 

In any case, I’d prefer a full and highly customizable CC. 

Yes, technically, a new coat of paint is a change. Giving it more polygons and detail to what was there, is a change. It's also very much the same as it were before. Don't change what they look like, don't change what they say, don't change what they do. If you change those to something different, you've made new characters. And when they say "deconstruct" and make special mention of what they wear, then it makes sense that one would think they will change their appearance and personalities, to fit modern Lucas Films' sensibilities. And nobody cares for it.

Change could also mean adding new dialogues. That isn't going to necessarily change a character. For example, in the case of an hypothetical MET remake where they'd add Miranda, Wrex, or Jack to the full squad and give them new dialogues and banter, they won't change the characters. lukastrevelyan was also willing to accept, depending of the implementation, combat changes, and that is going to be a big change compared to the original, no matter if the new implementation would still be about a rpg combat system.

I think it's possible, although not a guarantee, that they might change some outfits, although I don't really think they talked about changing their personalities. But again, in regards of Bastila's attire, I don't think that would cause any issues with their current stance/sensibilities. It's quite...tame?

In terms of appearance, though, I'd say their faces are going to look different from the original game...because of the low graphical details of it. The only meter of comparison that could be used, I guess, it's the original concept art in the cover, for Bastila at least.

“This is something that is important and impactful,” says Treadwell. “Our big goals on this are to bring the story to a modern audience and have it be just as impactful today as it was for players when it originally launched.”

“We’ve been working really, really closely with Aspyr for a long time now to deconstruct what made KOTOR so great and bring that back to new audiences, because we want this game to be an incredible RPG,” says Kellogg. “We want this game to be just as beloved as it was before. Some of my favorite meetings to have in my week right now are to get into the nitty gritty with Aspyr and talk about, ‘Why did we make that choice in the original game and how does that play today? How do we expand that choice and make it even more meaningful and impactful?’ We think about, literally, every word of dialogue and [other choices] down to the clothes that the character is wearing.”


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All the highlighted parts are cause for concern. If something is timeless, as KotoR is, it doesn't need to have aspects of "how would it play out today". It would play out, just as 17 years ago. And it literally says "choices down to the clothes that the character is wearing". So no. None of those need changes. This smells like the new Saints Row, all over again.

Here's the trailer since no one has put it although I assume it's linked in one of the articles:



I honestly just want the OG game with 2021 graphics, a more updated combat system (I have no issue with KOTOR's combat but don't think it would have appeal in 2021) and some cut content that didn't make it into the OG game like the Juhani romance. I don't really care about Star Wars lore at all or any of that stuff. I'm just a KOTOR fan, so I'd have no interest in seeing them make any major changes to try to ally with that stuff.

Disney doesn't know how to do that anyway.

The worst that can happen storywise is that certain choices (like romances) are dropped to have a canon only story. I can see the dialogue choices being rewritten if Revan him/herself is voiced as some of those were not meant to be spoken. Also, the Bastilla romance is very, very dorky, but I would leave that as is...  And the Juhani's romance could be fully implemented too and I guess we need male gay romance so Carth will become Kaidan Alenko...

I saw some mention of bringing over certain parts of KoTOR 2 into it thought, but it might just create a better bridge between the two games. KoTOR did make Revan Kreia's padawan for example, but there is zero mention of that in the original game.

Personally, I'm more scared of the rest of the game. Aspyr has mostly made remasters and switch/mobile ports.

I just realized that the (math) puzzles are probably not coming back...

Are people going to cry over that?

They should keep the line because it could retroactively double as a nod to Ki Adi's memeable quote from EPIII.

Is this really the thread for that?





Just this once.