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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2021 14:35:25 GMT
Showing an older Liara diminishes that idea, it might happen but I don't think so. . ah yes the older looking t'soni. Is she really that much older or is it the graphics showing her face in greater detail than what was shown in the trilogy? If she is much older, than why wasn't that seen with the very much older asari seen in the trilogy? If I was a fan of MEA having never played the trilogy who like to see Ryder return only to see a teaser showing a character from the trilogy, my first thought would be no Ryder returning. If I played the trilogy without playing MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. If I played the trilogy and MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. I don't think a bunch of wrinkles are just an evolution in graphics and even if they were which they aren't she is old and has been confirmed by two bioware devs as Liana from game informer said, plus the face model of Liara saying she's old and her matriarch clothes. The asaris in the trilogy didn't had because they didn't wanted to add plus limit on the consoles. At the end bioware might not have Liara have wrinkles and only added them to show us at what timeline the events will be set, but I hope they keep them cause it adds realism and with the technology now it has to. We're not on 2010 anymore. I too thought at first that Shepard is gonna come back but after seeing everything I came to the conclusion that that's not the case.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2021 14:42:12 GMT
On Twitter Nathan Zufelt agreed when someone said it's them. I don't know who that is. Never seen it. You got to feed some info, here. Because I'm out, if it's so. He's the animation director for the new game and when gamble teased who's on the background, someone replied with "Ryder, kallo, grunt or jaal", then he liked the tweet.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 10, 2021 14:47:28 GMT
I don't know who that is. Never seen it. You got to feed some info, here. Because I'm out, if it's so. He's the animation director for the new game and when gamble teased who's on the background, someone replied with "Ryder, kallo, grunt or jaal", then he liked the tweet. Liking a tweet doesn't confirm anything. If I were to tweet with Udina, Wreav and Jacob, then a Bioware employee likes it, does that mean those 3 are in the game? How do you know the guy wasn't liking the tweet because he liked the characters?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 10, 2021 14:49:11 GMT
I don't know who that is. Never seen it. You got to feed some info, here. Because I'm out, if it's so. He's the animation director for the new game and when gamble teased who's on the background, someone replied with "Ryder, kallo, grunt or jaal", then he liked the tweet. That's not it. That's not confirmation of anything.
Here's something that I came across; People are too focused in physically connecting the Milky Way to Andromeda. While the quote from Mike has always been "Connecting Andromeda to the Trilogy" Fan suggests they will insert an inbetweeny, where Initiative and Trilogy intersect. Can anyone actually find the tweet from Mike, if there even is one, or a quote from an article?
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2021 14:54:43 GMT
He's the animation director for the new game and when gamble teased who's on the background, someone replied with "Ryder, kallo, grunt or jaal", then he liked the tweet. Liking a tweet doesn't confirm anything. If I were to tweet with Udina, Wreav and Jacob, then a Bioware employee likes it, does that mean those 3 are in the game? How do you know the guy wasn't liking the tweet because he liked the characters? If that was the case then why he didn't liked the other tweets that were saying Shepard? When you like something you like it because you agree. Not to add that he also agreed when someone said that me/Andromeda isn't dead.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2021 14:58:18 GMT
He's the animation director for the new game and when gamble teased who's on the background, someone replied with "Ryder, kallo, grunt or jaal", then he liked the tweet. That's not it. That's not confirmation of anything. I've seen other people when there's a rumor and a developer likes something whether it's teasing or talking that it's a confirmation and I believe so too.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 10, 2021 15:00:22 GMT
If that was the case then why he didn't liked the other tweets that were saying Shepard? When you like something you like it because you agree. Not to add that he also agreed when someone said that me/Andromeda isn't dead. Because that's what he likes. If Kevin Meek likes a tweet post about "Synthesis being canon", because he likes the Synthesis ending, doesn't make it true. It's just what he likes. If that were indicative of what is going to happen and he's under NDA to not publicize it, then he's already fired. This is not how you do things. Bioware staff can only go as far as they are allowed to go, by daddy EA, or it gets the hose.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2021 15:04:49 GMT
If that was the case then why he didn't liked the other tweets that were saying Shepard? When you like something you like it because you agree. Not to add that he also agreed when someone said that me/Andromeda isn't dead. A Bioware employee liking a tweet is indicative of nothing. They can like stuff because they enjoy seeing the speculation, or because they want to deliberately put people on the wrong trail, or any among the thousands of reason there are to like a tweet.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 10, 2021 15:08:32 GMT
Where? If it were so, the speculation would be over. On Twitter Nathan Zufelt agreed when someone said it's them. Blofeldt?
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Post by themikefest on Nov 10, 2021 15:10:24 GMT
Liking a tweet doesn't confirm anything. If I were to tweet with Udina, Wreav and Jacob, then a Bioware employee likes it, does that mean those 3 are in the game? How do you know the guy wasn't liking the tweet because he liked the characters? If that was the case then why he didn't liked the other tweets that were saying Shepard? When you like something you like it because you agree. Not to add that he also agreed when someone said that me/Andromeda isn't dead. Doesn't mean crap. I could be an employee for a Bioware who likes a comment from someone saying they want Cerberus to return. That doesn't mean they will return. In regards to Shepard. Would it be safe to say if gamble or another Bioware employee were to like a tweet mentioning Shepard it would draw more attention then anything MEA related? It's possible they want to keep letting the MEA fans that something will happen related to MEA, but in reality they are looking to Shepard and the Milky Way , or at the very least, a new main character in the Milky Way
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Post by ahglock on Nov 10, 2021 15:27:44 GMT
If the option was Andromeda cast or all new I'll take all new every time. They'd have to work at it be worse than Andromeda. Yeah, Original cast seems to be worse after 13 PT's of OT and 5 PT's of Andromeda Yeah you and the handful of other people with that opinion will count for hundreds of sales of biowares next game.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 10, 2021 15:29:32 GMT
On Twitter Nathan Zufelt agreed when someone said it's them. Blofeldt? James Bond?
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Post by ahglock on Nov 10, 2021 15:31:27 GMT
The small group of Andromeda hardcore fans Go take a look at comments on Twitter, YouTube, reddit, etc. You'll see a lot of support and positive comments so definitely not a small group but not bigger than shepard obviously. For a AAA game its pretty damn small.
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Post by ahglock on Nov 10, 2021 15:35:29 GMT
ah yes the older looking t'soni. Is she really that much older or is it the graphics showing her face in greater detail than what was shown in the trilogy? If she is much older, than why wasn't that seen with the very much older asari seen in the trilogy? If I was a fan of MEA having never played the trilogy who like to see Ryder return only to see a teaser showing a character from the trilogy, my first thought would be no Ryder returning. If I played the trilogy without playing MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. If I played the trilogy and MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. I don't think a bunch of wrinkles are just an evolution in graphics and even if they were which they aren't she is old and has been confirmed by two bioware devs as Liana from game informer said, plus the face model of Liara saying she's old and her matriarch clothes. The asaris in the trilogy didn't had because they didn't wanted to add plus limit on the consoles. At the end bioware might not have Liara have wrinkles and only added them to show us at what timeline the events will be set, but I hope they keep them cause it adds realism and with the technology now it has to. We're not on 2010 anymore. I too thought at first that Shepard is gonna come back but after seeing everything I came to the conclusion that that's not the case. Could be. I think they were intentionally vague so they could go anyway in the next game. I doubt anything is set yet beyond a vague plotline and some art pieces, like odds are the ships we've seen will be used. Everything else is still up in the air.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 10, 2021 16:09:08 GMT
He's the animation director for the new game and when gamble teased who's on the background, someone replied with "Ryder, kallo, grunt or jaal", then he liked the tweet. That's not it. That's not confirmation of anything.
Here's something that I came across; People are too focused in physically connecting the Milky Way to Andromeda. While the quote from Mike has always been "Connecting Andromeda to the Trilogy" Fan suggests they will insert an inbetweeny, where Initiative and Trilogy intersect. Can anyone actually find the tweet from Mike, if there even is one, or a quote from an article?
Some rando on the internet liked something, so I can make up sime bullshit and you're wrong.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2021 16:09:38 GMT
I don't think a bunch of wrinkles are just an evolution in graphics and even if they were which they aren't she is old and has been confirmed by two bioware devs as Liana from game informer said, plus the face model of Liara saying she's old and her matriarch clothes. The asaris in the trilogy didn't had because they didn't wanted to add plus limit on the consoles. At the end bioware might not have Liara have wrinkles and only added them to show us at what timeline the events will be set, but I hope they keep them cause it adds realism and with the technology now it has to. We're not on 2010 anymore. I too thought at first that Shepard is gonna come back but after seeing everything I came to the conclusion that that's not the case. Could be. I think they were intentionally vague so they could go anyway in the next game. I doubt anything is set yet beyond a vague plotline and some art pieces, like odds are the ships we've seen will be used. Everything else is still up in the air. I think they have a basic plot on how the game is gonna be, it's been 2.5 years since they've started so it might have been set already. Some things might change before the game releases though, that's common. Yeah the ships will be used, and maybe we might see the new one on a teaser trailer at tga.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 10, 2021 16:18:37 GMT
Could be. I think they were intentionally vague so they could go anyway in the next game. I doubt anything is set yet beyond a vague plotline and some art pieces, like odds are the ships we've seen will be used. Everything else is still up in the air. I think they have a basic plot on how the game is gonna be, it's been 2.5 years since they've started so it might have been set already. Some things might change before the game releases though, that's common. Yeah the ships will be used, and maybe we might see the new one on a teaser trailer at tga. I'd be very surprised, if every year, there's a teaser trailer for some Bioware at the TGAs. Dragon Age teaser is just going to bomb, people are going to laugh, at this point. 4 years since the first teaser and we're getting another teaser, with no gameplay in sight? Who are they kidding, anymore?
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2021 16:26:30 GMT
I think they have a basic plot on how the game is gonna be, it's been 2.5 years since they've started so it might have been set already. Some things might change before the game releases though, that's common. Yeah the ships will be used, and maybe we might see the new one on a teaser trailer at tga. I'd be very surprised, if every year, there's a teaser trailer for some Bioware at the TGAs. Dragon Age teaser is just going to bomb, people are going to laugh, at this point. 4 years since the first teaser and we're getting another teaser, with no gameplay in sight? Who are they kidding, anymore? Well the game was a live service game, hence why we had two teasers. Now that it will have sp, and it's been almost a year since ea's decision they will show a teaser again, maybe one that will show some characters and give some bit of story info.
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Post by traks on Nov 10, 2021 16:46:44 GMT
Showing an older Liara diminishes that idea, it might happen but I don't think so. . ah yes the older looking t'soni. Is she really that much older or is it the graphics showing her face in greater detail than what was shown in the trilogy? If she is much older, than why wasn't that seen with the very much older asari seen in the trilogy? If I was a fan of MEA having never played the trilogy who like to see Ryder return only to see a teaser showing a character from the trilogy, my first thought would be no Ryder returning. If I played the trilogy without playing MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. If I played the trilogy and MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. If I played the trilogy, I wouldn't expect Shepard to return as a playable character in Will Continue. Won't happen because of the endings.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 10, 2021 16:53:29 GMT
ah yes the older looking t'soni. Is she really that much older or is it the graphics showing her face in greater detail than what was shown in the trilogy? If she is much older, than why wasn't that seen with the very much older asari seen in the trilogy? If I was a fan of MEA having never played the trilogy who like to see Ryder return only to see a teaser showing a character from the trilogy, my first thought would be no Ryder returning. If I played the trilogy without playing MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. If I played the trilogy and MEA, I would believe Shepard is returning after seeing T'soni. If I played the trilogy, I wouldn't expect Shepard to return as a playable character in Will Continue. Won't happen because of the endings. If it won't happen because of the endings, then Liara shouldn't be in the next game since she can die, right?
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Post by traks on Nov 10, 2021 16:59:54 GMT
If I played the trilogy, I wouldn't expect Shepard to return as a playable character in Will Continue. Won't happen because of the endings. If it won't happen because of the endings, then Liara shouldn't be in the next game since she can die, right? Nope, because that happens just in a tiny bit of possibilities and she is just an NPC. NPCs that could die always can be in the next game (ME2 crew, Virmire survivor, council...). With Shepard the problem is that you would put people in someone else's Shep. That simply won't happen (as a playable character). Putting us in a world created by a different Shep? That will likely happen, because we all get the same starting point for the next game.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 10, 2021 17:05:44 GMT
Well the game was a live service game, hence why we had two teasers. Now that it will have sp, and it's been almost a year since ea's decision they will show a teaser again, maybe one that will show some characters and give some bit of story info. They're not ready to show that and I think people are very weary of bioware's "in-game" (fake) previews. Like with Anthem. And you can't show teasers every year, especially after having to show nothing but teasers for 4 years. With Shepard the problem is that you would put people in someone else's Shep. That simply won't happen (as a playable character). I don't understand this. Playable Shepard has more agency than non-playable Shepard, thus more player choice, thus anyone's Shepard, regardless.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 10, 2021 17:08:02 GMT
If it won't happen because of the endings, then Liara shouldn't be in the next game since she can die, right? Nope, because that happens just in a tiny bit of possibilities and she is just an NPC. NPCs that could die always can be in the next game (ME2 crew, Virmire survivor, council...). With Shepard the problem is that you would put people in someone else's Shep. That simply won't happen (as a playable character). Putting us in a world created by a different Shep? That will likely happen, because we all get the same starting point for the next game. So what would they do? Have the next game feature the asari if she survived, and have her not show up if she did die? If they do that, just don't have the character in the game at all. Use those resources for something else in the game. By having her in the next game, Bioware is telling the player that playthrough in ME3 is invalid. So much for we respect players choice. So much for replay value. That won't please some fans.
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Post by traks on Nov 10, 2021 17:10:43 GMT
Well the game was a live service game, hence why we had two teasers. Now that it will have sp, and it's been almost a year since ea's decision they will show a teaser again, maybe one that will show some characters and give some bit of story info. They're not ready to show that and I think people are very weary of bioware's "in-game" (fake) previews. Like with Anthem. And you can't show teasers every year, especially after having to show nothing but teasers for 4 years. With Shepard the problem is that you would put people in someone else's Shep. That simply won't happen (as a playable character). I don't understand this. Playable Shepard has more agency than non-playable Shepard, thus more player choice, thus anyone's Shepard, regardless. You don't understand when you have to play a Shepard that has chosen synthesis? It's pretty easy to comprehend that THAT is a problem for many, if they have to continue as a Shepard they didn't play, while it is not a problem at all to put a new character into a world state any of our Shep's could've created. Easy decision for the writers if they want to have freedom by using one starting point for all (which they should to write the best story possible). Edit: Of course I exaggerate, but the point is you can't just demand a game that's only possible for your Shep and just cast all the others that didn't take destroy like we both did to the side and tell them, "c'mon, why can't you just shut up and play Sir Sourpusses Shep?" That doesn't make any more sense...
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Post by traks on Nov 10, 2021 17:13:47 GMT
Nope, because that happens just in a tiny bit of possibilities and she is just an NPC. NPCs that could die always can be in the next game (ME2 crew, Virmire survivor, council...). With Shepard the problem is that you would put people in someone else's Shep. That simply won't happen (as a playable character). Putting us in a world created by a different Shep? That will likely happen, because we all get the same starting point for the next game. So what would they do? Have the next game feature the asari if she survived, and have her not show up if she did die? If they do that, just don't have the character in the game at all. Use those resources for something else in the game. By having her in the next game, Bioware is telling the player that playthrough in ME3 is invalid. So much for we respect players choice. So much for replay value. That won't please some fans. No, by choosing one starting point for all, she will likely be in everyone's game, because you put the players into one of the possible world states. ME3 is valid for the trilogy. It tells your (and my and so on) Shepard's story.
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