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Post by colfoley on Dec 7, 2021 19:40:18 GMT
Reboot one was to turn the game from a relatively small sounding game centered on heists ( think grand theft dragon) into a game which sounds much more in keeping with what we have seen from Dragon Age. I must admit I always thought that sounded odd if they were switching from single-player focused to multi-player focused, because having a series of heists seemed far more in keeping with multi-player. Also, I struggled to fathom how engaging in a series of heists was relevant to neutralising the threat from Solas, unless it was to gain items he wanted or items to use against him. So to some extent you could be right and the second reboot was simply reverting the game to what it was originally intended to be and maybe some of the previous work done before the first reboot could be salvage and used once more. Its all speculation and people are just showing concern because they think EA must be at fault, but it could be that EA is trying to dig BioWare out of the hole they put themselves into. When I talk about management it could be those at the top at Bioware making decisions, or in conjunction with those at EA. From what I could tell of the recent departure, the management involved were both at Bioware and EA and were jointly expressing their confidence in the team working on the game. that's my read to more or less. A citadel or mark of the assassin style quest line would be fine once or twice but the focus of the gameplay loop? Doesen't sound fun or Dragon Agey... also hard to imagine that connecting to Solas. Also you raise a point since GTAs multiplayer expansions focus on new heists getting added.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 7, 2021 20:00:29 GMT
I must admit I always thought that sounded odd if they were switching from single-player focused to multi-player focused, because having a series of heists seemed far more in keeping with multi-player. Also, I struggled to fathom how engaging in a series of heists was relevant to neutralising the threat from Solas, unless it was to gain items he wanted or items to use against him. So to some extent you could be right and the second reboot was simply reverting the game to what it was originally intended to be and maybe some of the previous work done before the first reboot could be salvage and used once more. When I talk about management it could be those at the top at Bioware making decisions, or in conjunction with those at EA. From what I could tell of the recent departure, the management involved were both at Bioware and EA and were jointly expressing their confidence in the team working on the game. that's my read to more or less. A citadel or mark of the assassin style quest line would be fine once or twice but the focus of the gameplay loop? Doesen't sound fun or Dragon Agey... also hard to imagine that connecting to Solas. Also you raise a point since GTAs multiplayer expansions focus on new heists getting added. My guess it would have been more like Dead Space 3 and its approach to co-op. Where the entire game is designed around two players and the second character is just off screen or a party member and does things when needed. Or even like the dungeons from The Old Republic where when a choice appears it becomes voted on. Its becareful what you wish for from players in my opinion for before Anthem I would see threads pop up about "how the next game must be story mode co-op" similar to the old threads about open world that have now really dried up as well.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 7, 2021 20:23:29 GMT
that's my read to more or less. A citadel or mark of the assassin style quest line would be fine once or twice but the focus of the gameplay loop? Doesen't sound fun or Dragon Agey... also hard to imagine that connecting to Solas. Also you raise a point since GTAs multiplayer expansions focus on new heists getting added. My guess it would have been more like Dead Space 3 and its approach to co-op. Where the entire game is designed around two players and the second character is just off screen or a party member and does things when needed. Or even like the dungeons from The Old Republic where when a choice appears it becomes voted on. Its becareful what you wish for from players in my opinion for before Anthem I would see threads pop up about "how the next game must be story mode co-op" similar to the old threads about open world that have now really dried up as well. no real issue with open world at all but you are right we were seeing various ideas being floated for some kind of co op. Which I wouldn't have minded per se as long as that wouldn't sacrifice DAs commitment to character or story.
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Post by andydandymandy on Dec 7, 2021 21:52:26 GMT
Reboot one was to turn the game from a relatively small sounding game centered on heists ( think grand theft dragon) into a game which sounds much more in keeping with what we have seen from Dragon Age. I must admit I always thought that sounded odd if they were switching from single-player focused to multi-player focused, because having a series of heists seemed far more in keeping with multi-player. Also, I struggled to fathom how engaging in a series of heists was relevant to neutralising the threat from Solas, unless it was to gain items he wanted or items to use against him. So to some extent you could be right and the second reboot was simply reverting the game to what it was originally intended to be and maybe some of the previous work done before the first reboot could be salvage and used once more. Its all speculation and people are just showing concern because they think EA must be at fault, but it could be that EA is trying to dig BioWare out of the hole they put themselves into. When I talk about management it could be those at the top at Bioware making decisions, or in conjunction with those at EA. From what I could tell of the recent departure, the management involved were both at Bioware and EA and were jointly expressing their confidence in the team working on the game. I am wondering if it was really true that DA4 was going to focus mostly on "heists", or if one heist was just going to be a major setpiece that required a lot of prototyping and testing because it was going to be a really complex part of the game, but a "game of telephone" happened when the Jason Schreier article was written where people told him DA4 was going to focus mostly on heists when it was likely just a major complex setpiece that needed to be tested early.
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Post by ClarkKent on Dec 10, 2021 17:01:13 GMT
Next year's going to be our year guys.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 10, 2021 17:27:52 GMT
Yeah that's an epic film had it on VHS was one of my favourites growing up.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Dec 10, 2021 17:32:56 GMT
Yeah that's an epic film had it on VHS was one of my favourites growing up. Gene wilder just made every movie he was in better. Even if he would have done a cameo in a horrid movie like starship troopers two it would have been a good movie. I loved him in blazing saddles. Probably his best movie in my opinion. Although if you watch it be warned it is very..mel brooks makes fun of everybody without restraint so it isn't very PC. Although I would say the cowboys catch the brunt of it. Anyways yeah gene wilder was awesome and in truth the ONLY WILLY WONKA!
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Post by colfoley on Dec 10, 2021 19:19:44 GMT
What's the over under? Next years ea play of next years TGAs before we hear anything else?
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 10, 2021 21:55:05 GMT
What's the over under? Next years ea play of next years TGAs before we hear anything else? I think the deciding factor will be when they are aiming to release the game. If its a winter release then EA Play, but a spring release then TGAs.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 10, 2021 22:01:05 GMT
What's the over under? Next years ea play of next years TGAs before we hear anything else? I think the deciding factor will be when they are aiming to release the game. If its a winter release then EA Play, but a spring release then TGAs. no lies detected.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 10, 2021 23:16:22 GMT
They know any info released at TGAs will be buried under all the other games they don't release any info then everyone will be predicting the end of BioWare part 9,902,893.
So damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Dec 10, 2021 23:27:31 GMT
They probably could have held off on last year's teaser until this year. We had the BTS video to keep us occupied. Plus they managed to overshadow themselves by having ME teaser there as well. Guessing they expected to do more marketing this year though before the latest "reboot".
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Post by yarus on Dec 11, 2021 0:27:02 GMT
I expected nothing and was still disappointed.
Just two more weeks /s
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Post by colfoley on Dec 11, 2021 0:27:10 GMT
They probably could have held off on last year's teaser until this year. We had the BTS video to keep us occupied. Plus they managed to overshadow themselves by having ME teaser there as well. Guessing they expected to do more marketing this year though before the latest "reboot". this is the first time I've wondered if the 'reboot' didn't actually have an effect on production.
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Post by Solas on Dec 11, 2021 1:07:13 GMT
this fandom sustains itself thru sheer force of will
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 11, 2021 1:31:54 GMT
They know any info released at TGAs will be buried under all the other games they don't release any info then everyone will be predicting the end of BioWare part 9,902,893. So damned if you do, damned if you don't. Sounds about right.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 11, 2021 3:05:39 GMT
this fandom sustains itself thru sheer force of will it makes one wonder how the Elder Scrolls are doing.
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Post by githcheater on Dec 11, 2021 3:12:34 GMT
this fandom sustains itself thru sheer force of will it makes one wonder how the Elder Scrolls are doing. The Deadlands DLC was just launched in November
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Post by colfoley on Dec 11, 2021 3:39:02 GMT
it makes one wonder how the Elder Scrolls are doing. The Deadlands DLC was just launched in November I meant as far as ES 6 is concerned.
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The Deadlands DLC was just launched in November I meant as far as ES 6 is concerned. Compared to ES 6, it seems like DA4 will be released next week.
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Post by magenpie on Dec 11, 2021 12:50:00 GMT
I meant as far as ES 6 is concerned. Compared to ES 6, it seems like DA4 will be released next week. This made me lol for reals
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Post by garrusfan1 on Dec 11, 2021 13:19:44 GMT
I meant as far as ES 6 is concerned. Compared to ES 6, it seems like DA4 will be released next week. What do you think the odds are that they will make another remaster of skyrim before ES 6 comes out. I mean I know it makes sense to milk a good thing for everything you can but two re releases in less then a decade is a bit much.
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Post by ClarkKent on Dec 11, 2021 15:36:33 GMT
They should have a team just dedicated to creating Skyrim DLCs at this point. I know I'd get every single one, sadly.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 11, 2021 15:43:09 GMT
Compared to ES 6, it seems like DA4 will be released next week. What do you think the odds are that they will make another remaster of skyrim before ES 6 comes out. I mean I know it makes sense to milk a good thing for everything you can but two re releases in less then a decade is a bit much. If Microsoft hadn't purchased Zenimax I could see another remake/remaster/re-release before ES6, I could even see one in 2022. Not so sure with Microsoft for I am not sure they can exploit the userbase the same way old management did.
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