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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 2, 2022 18:59:57 GMT
Don´t read too much in this colour choice. This just a current marketing gag to be hip and fresh also of course (which nothing is wrong about!!!) more inclusive. I think you may be doing them a disservice (or I am just being overly generous) but the purple colour is overlaid onto that image from the Dread Wolf Rises trailer, so it could be significant. If it is, then I definitely think it either has something to do with the sort of magic the Dreadwolf is using or that fact that his true home is the spirit world. As another post has reminded us: Dread Wolf is an anagram of Fade World. Like i said i prefer much more the colour palett from the teaser. The conflict between gold-orange??? (Solas) and red (Dread Wolf / Red Lyrium)
But Dreadwolfs purple seems like an EA decision. Purple is new grey...
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Post by Mresa on Jun 2, 2022 19:04:11 GMT
About bloody time.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Jun 2, 2022 19:11:33 GMT
let me smash that egg in the prologue I dont want to deal with him lol hope theres someone else in the shadows
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Post by necrowaif on Jun 2, 2022 19:21:35 GMT
I don´t like it because it reminds a lot of Rage 2 or other Purple Games. On Zero Punctuation, Yahtzee uses the term "Magenta game" to refer to titles with a purple hue and a cast that quips more often than they breath. Besides Rage 2, other examples include Bleeding Edge, Borderlands 3, Contra: Rogue Corps and Rebel Galaxy Outlaw. (Saint's Row and Far Cry: Blood Dragon probably count as well.) Honestly, the "magenta aesthetic" doesn't strike me as in tune with a fantasy universe.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Jun 2, 2022 19:26:27 GMT
Somewhere someone suggested anagram check "Dreadwolf"->"Fadeworld". Veil coming down confirmed?
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 2, 2022 19:27:21 GMT
let me smash that egg in the prologue I dont want to deal with him lol hope theres someone else in the shadows They wouldn’t name a game after a character that’d die in the prologue. I don´t like it because it reminds a lot of Rage 2 or other Purple Games. On Zero Punctuation, Yahtzee uses the term "Magenta game." Other examples include Saint's Row, Borderlands, Far Cry: Blood Dragon, Far Cry: New Dawn and Fortnite. Honestly, magenta doesn't strike me as in tune with the fantasy aesthetic. But it's probably a marketing thing, as you say. I wouldn’t be sure that it’s simply a marketing thing or a decision made by EA. I think it’s quite likely that it’ll reference to something in the game.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 2, 2022 19:36:19 GMT
Saint's Row and Far Cry: Blood Dragon probably count as well.) In my opinion not really. Saint´s Row was always (but maybe not that much like the Reboot who knows?) the purble connected with the Saints and Blood Dragon is just 80s action cliche game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 2, 2022 19:41:15 GMT
Somewhere someone suggested anagram check "Dreadwolf"->"Fadeworld". Veil coming down confirmed? Hope not. I like most of the characters, and don't want them killed off because Elf Hitler doesn't like how his previous atrocity turned out.
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 2, 2022 19:54:54 GMT
Vivid purple is an odd choice, but I’ll not read too much into it. My only issue with the name is that I don’t know why it’s one word now. Otherwise, yeah it makes sense. We knew Solas was going to be the major player since Trespasser, maybe even the end of vanilla Inquisition. I was never going to be wowed by the title of this game (unless it was something really out of left field), so I’m happy with this
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 2, 2022 19:55:00 GMT
Hope not. I like most of the characters, and don't want them killed off because Elf Hitler doesn't like how his previous atrocity turned out. Others say a betrayer of his people…or a savior who now seeks to rescue them at the cost of your world. They are speaking to you as the next PC there, so I think that is a hint that working to stop him is going to be the main aim and that, unless they pull a ME3 on us, he is not going to succeed. I do think, though, that our ultimate confrontation with him is likely to be on the spiritual plane, either in the Fade or possibly the Void, because that is where the Dread Wolf is most powerful and killing him in the Waking World will only make it more so.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 2, 2022 20:00:56 GMT
I do think the TGA 2020 trailer was possibly made before the alleged shift to SP, so it’s possible that many things could’ve changed since then. The way they’re ‘revealing’ Solas is a bit weird, to me. I mantain my opinion that said trailer and the concept art show before something gave me a coop/mp focused game vibe, but it’s just my opinion, based on my fears at the time. We have discussed the possibility before that the 2020 trailer was actually preparing us for a multi-player reveal. Since they have now ignored that trailer in making that statement about hinting his return in 2018, it does seem increasingly likely we were right about the 2020 trailer. Essentially, we should assume that nothing revealed during 2020 or early 2021 is guaranteed to make the final cut in the single player game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 2, 2022 20:02:15 GMT
Hope not. I like most of the characters, and don't want them killed off because Elf Hitler doesn't like how his previous atrocity turned out. Others say a betrayer of his people…or a savior who now seeks to rescue them at the cost of your world. They are speaking to you as the next PC there, so I think that is a hint that working to stop him is going to be the main aim and that, unless they pull a ME3 on us, he is not going to succeed. I do think, though, that our ultimate confrontation with him is likely to be on the spiritual plane, either in the Fade or possibly the Void, because that is where the Dread Wolf is most powerful and killing him in the Waking World will only make it more so. I definitely think/hope that we'll stop him before he succeeds, but I can see it where he either does and we have to time travel to stop it or he partially succeeds still leading to the deaths of countless people before we stop him and it. Most likely. I can see a two-pronged fight, like in our world his Solas self then in the Fade as his Dread Wolf self or something.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 2, 2022 20:04:23 GMT
I do think the TGA 2020 trailer was possibly made before the alleged shift to SP, so it’s possible that many things could’ve changed since then. The way they’re ‘revealing’ Solas is a bit weird, to me. I mantain my opinion that said trailer and the concept art show before something gave me a coop/mp focused game vibe, but it’s just my opinion, based on my fears at the time. We have discussed the possibility before that the 2020 trailer was actually preparing us for a multi-player reveal. Since they have now ignored that trailer in making that statement about hinting his return in 2018, it does seem increasingly likely we were right about the 2020 trailer. Essentially, we should assume that nothing revealed during 2020 or early 2021 is guaranteed to make the final cut in the single player game. *remembers that was the trailer with the 'no magic hand' line*
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 2, 2022 20:06:57 GMT
Most likely. I can see a two-pronged fight, like in our world his Solas self then in the Fade as his Dread Wolf self or something. Did you ever play Baldurs Gate 2? It may be something like that. We fought the big bad in the real world and struck him down, only for us to be sucked into the netherworld where we had to confront him again there and where he had the assistance of various demons. I'm fairly sure that the Dread Wolf cannot be defeated simply by killing Solas in the Waking World.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 2, 2022 20:10:52 GMT
Most likely. I can see a two-pronged fight, like in our world his Solas self then in the Fade as his Dread Wolf self or something. Did you ever play Baldurs Gate 2? It may be something like that. We fought the big bad in the real world and struck him down, only for us to be sucked into the netherworld where we had to confront him again there and where he had the assistance of various demons. I'm fairly sure that the Dread Wolf cannot be defeated simply by killing Solas in the Waking World. I never did, no. But that’s basically what I had in mind. Probably not, but I meant more killing/defeating Solas would leave Dread Wolf the only/dominant persona left so it takes charge and then we fight it.
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 2, 2022 20:11:41 GMT
Obviously, @ dreadwolf is Solas' Twitter handle. EDIT: Didn't mean to accidentally @ someone's username
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 2, 2022 20:12:46 GMT
I do think the TGA 2020 trailer was possibly made before the alleged shift to SP, so it’s possible that many things could’ve changed since then. The way they’re ‘revealing’ Solas is a bit weird, to me. I mantain my opinion that said trailer and the concept art show before something gave me a coop/mp focused game vibe, but it’s just my opinion, based on my fears at the time. We have discussed the possibility before that the 2020 trailer was actually preparing us for a multi-player reveal. Since they have now ignored that trailer in making that statement about hinting his return in 2018, it does seem increasingly likely we were right about the 2020 trailer. Essentially, we should assume that nothing revealed during 2020 or early 2021 is guaranteed to make the final cut in the single player game. Indeed, the fact that they seemingly ignored the '20 teaser is interesting. I'd say that everything related to Solas should be considered safe, although they didn't really reveal much about him, other then his appearance in the game. I do think that the best way to approach Dreadwolf is, beside Solas's role, to not expect anything based on what was shown before. Even in the regards of the protagonist and his role/abilities. In my opinion, *anything* could've happened in those two years.
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Post by ellehaym on Jun 2, 2022 20:15:52 GMT
I hope we don't get time-travel.
That said, Trespasser did give us an option to "redeem" him, so I wonder what that means exactly? Or will it not matter too much and he dies no matter what, but the redemption option means he got a noble sacrifice ending?
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 2, 2022 20:17:11 GMT
We have discussed the possibility before that the 2020 trailer was actually preparing us for a multi-player reveal. Since they have now ignored that trailer in making that statement about hinting his return in 2018, it does seem increasingly likely we were right about the 2020 trailer. Essentially, we should assume that nothing revealed during 2020 or early 2021 is guaranteed to make the final cut in the single player game. *remembers that was the trailer with the 'no magic hand' line* I said before that if the shift truly happened after that trailer, and the trailer was hinting at a MP-focused game, that changes to the protagonist's background/abilities, or even the decision in regards of which protagonist to go for, could've happened. Regardless of the direction they took for the protagonist, planning one for a MP game and planning one for a SP aren't the same, so changes, to me, are very likely.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 2, 2022 20:18:51 GMT
I hope we don't get time-travel. That said, Trespasser did give us an option to "redeem" him, so I wonder what that means exactly? Or will it not matter too much and he dies no matter what, but the redemption option means he got a noble sacrifice ending? I don't see, to be honest, how much that decision would affect his fate in Dreadwolf, without the Inquisitor back as a protagonist. Even if our new protagonist is backed by the Inquisition, why would they be restrained to that choice in Trespasser?
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Post by Zemgus on Jun 2, 2022 20:21:41 GMT
All the other titles have referred to the player character in a way (Origins, Exodus, Inquisition) so the choice of the name "Dreadwolf" is somewhat interesting. Maybe it just point blank refers to Fen'Harel and confirms that he's the big bad villain and the main focus of this game. Also, an interesting time to release this information. Maybe we will get another trailer soon?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 2, 2022 20:23:32 GMT
@the_Elder_King
So I have been having thoughts which have been moving the needle in a more positive direction.
1. Since Jackdaw released the vid going over Inquisition's marketing campaign, and at least has made me aware of it, there has been some conversation on whether or not they will approach the marketing for DA 4 in the same way...when it begins in earnest. Or since they were kind of burned by the Crestwood demo if they were going to wait later until more features are more nailed down to show off. Well I think they are effectively having their cake and eating it to, which is quite brilliant, by just showing off the title...without a specific trailer which promises everything...I think we can now safely say the game will be out within the next 18 months (plus or minus 3 months) and we can still get trailers, as they say, later in this year which will give us more solid information. This is also a nice reason to wait as long as they did to release the titlle, as Elder King mentioned they might've known what the title was for awhile...but in this context this suggests that they waited for pure marketing reasons, which in this case I approve of.
2. Now the title is a little underwhelming...but I wonder if the reason it is is because we basically have known and been joking about this for four years. Yikes. Back when the initial trailer dropped for the game and we got the #DreadWolfRises people began basically joking that this was going to be the title...or something along these lines. When the trailer came out at the next TGAs again people were joking 'is the game just going to be called Dragon Age? will it be Dragon 4ge?' That sort of thing. So we have been thinking about this for awhile and they basically did give the game away four years ago. Sure maybe this is an indication of laziness and 'for lack of a better title' but I am also trying to lift the veil between universes and imagine how excited I would be without that hashtag being revealed 4 years ago...which I now think because of the title doing that hashtag back then was a mistake...but I think if we hadn't heard much on the game, no speculation, I think I would be pretty pumped by the title name for it and that it would do exactly what they were saying it would in the blog.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 2, 2022 20:26:48 GMT
@the_Elder_King So I have been having thoughts which have been moving the needle in a more positive direction. 1. Since Jackdaw released the vid going over Inquisition's marketing campaign, and at least has made me aware of it, there has been some conversation on whether or not they will approach the marketing for DA 4 in the same way...when it begins in earnest. Or since they were kind of burned by the Crestwood demo if they were going to wait later until more features are more nailed down to show off. Well I think they are effectively having their cake and eating it to, which is quite brilliant, by just showing off the title...without a specific trailer which promises everything...I think we can now safely say the game will be out within the next 18 months (plus or minus 3 months) and we can still get trailers, as they say, later in this year which will give us more solid information. This is also a nice reason to wait as long as they did to release the titlle, as Elder King mentioned they might've known what the title was for awhile...but in this context this suggests that they waited for pure marketing reasons, which in this case I approve of. 2. Now the title is a little underwhelming...but I wonder if the reason it is is because we basically have known and been joking about this for four years. Yikes. Back when the initial trailer dropped for the game and we got the #DreadWolfRises people began basically joking that this was going to be the title...or something along these lines. When the trailer came out at the next TGAs again people were joking 'is the game just going to be called Dragon Age? will it be Dragon 4ge?' That sort of thing. So we have been thinking about this for awhile and they basically did give the game away four years ago. Sure maybe this is an indication of laziness and 'for lack of a better title' but I am also trying to lift the veil between universes and imagine how excited I would be without that hashtag being revealed 4 years ago...which I now think because of the title doing that hashtag back then was a mistake...but I think if we hadn't heard much on the game, no speculation, I think I would be pretty pumped by the title name for it and that it would do exactly what they were saying it would in the blog. I do think that some people might've reacted differently if the title was announced before, or if the hashtag TheDreadWolfRises never happened. It also makes sense, in retrospect, for them to make that hashtag, as it wasn't just because of Solas' role but because it was the name of the game.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 2, 2022 20:28:32 GMT
@the_Elder_King So I have been having thoughts which have been moving the needle in a more positive direction. 1. Since Jackdaw released the vid going over Inquisition's marketing campaign, and at least has made me aware of it, there has been some conversation on whether or not they will approach the marketing for DA 4 in the same way...when it begins in earnest. Or since they were kind of burned by the Crestwood demo if they were going to wait later until more features are more nailed down to show off. Well I think they are effectively having their cake and eating it to, which is quite brilliant, by just showing off the title...without a specific trailer which promises everything...I think we can now safely say the game will be out within the next 18 months (plus or minus 3 months) and we can still get trailers, as they say, later in this year which will give us more solid information. This is also a nice reason to wait as long as they did to release the titlle, as Elder King mentioned they might've known what the title was for awhile...but in this context this suggests that they waited for pure marketing reasons, which in this case I approve of. 2. Now the title is a little underwhelming...but I wonder if the reason it is is because we basically have known and been joking about this for four years. Yikes. Back when the initial trailer dropped for the game and we got the #DreadWolfRises people began basically joking that this was going to be the title...or something along these lines. When the trailer came out at the next TGAs again people were joking 'is the game just going to be called Dragon Age? will it be Dragon 4ge?' That sort of thing. So we have been thinking about this for awhile and they basically did give the game away four years ago. Sure maybe this is an indication of laziness and 'for lack of a better title' but I am also trying to lift the veil between universes and imagine how excited I would be without that hashtag being revealed 4 years ago...which I now think because of the title doing that hashtag back then was a mistake...but I think if we hadn't heard much on the game, no speculation, I think I would be pretty pumped by the title name for it and that it would do exactly what they were saying it would in the blog. I do think that some people might've reacted differently if the title was announced before, or if the hashtag TheDreadWolfRises never happened. It also makes sense, in retrospect, for them to make that hashtag, as it wasn't just because of Solas' role but because it was the name of the game. Of course the joke...oh my god this is so perfect for dragon age... The Dread Wolf Rises...then turns over hits snooze and goes back to sleep for four more years.
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Post by sentinel87 on Jun 2, 2022 20:31:08 GMT
Nice to see an official name and a logo. The reveal is still rather lackluster, but I'm excited for the next entry in the DA series. It's been far too long between releases and we are still some ways out from release.
Moving Dreadwolf to a compound makes sense to me. It's more of his title which comes across better as a compound noun.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Bioware ditches the "redeem Solas" line from Trespasser as a possible plot point. It's happened too often in their other games. I'd still like for it to be an option, even if I wouldn't plan on going down that path.
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