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Post by Buckeldemon on Jun 5, 2022 18:10:07 GMT
Ach Scheiße. That's what I'm getting for just thinking DA stuff in English.  I wonder though, if the writing-as-one-word has any special meaning, how the translators will deal with it. 
 Hmm, I doubt they will change the wording in german. Though if they would, I wonder to what they could change it. Let's see... one translation I could see to work if they wanted to change it for the title might be Grauenswolf. Funnily, you could misread that as "Grauer Wolf" Maybe that's why they went with Schreckenswolf as translation. It might just work better as a title if it's one word. I do hope they give the translators context for ambiguous stuff, so we don't end up like when they changed "Lace" Harding's first name to "Borte" cause they thought it was a nickname.  Grauer Wolf des grauen Grrrrrauens. Though now I've kinda have to think that, if Solas' gets this wolf form, it will be purple. At some point, perhaps I'll start calling him Gmork. 
I second that. Though I do wonder if the translator tried to make a sort of double meaning here. While "Borte" is of course a very direct translation and unecessary as you said, did they think of Borte/Börte, the first wife of Temüjin a.k.a. Chingis Khan? Ahhh, I'm just spitballin'. 
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Post by cailan33 on Jun 5, 2022 18:33:01 GMT
Hmm, I doubt they will change the wording in german. Though if they would, I wonder to what they could change it. Let's see... one translation I could see to work if they wanted to change it for the title might be Grauenswolf. Funnily, you could misread that as "Grauer Wolf" Maybe that's why they went with Schreckenswolf as translation. It might just work better as a title if it's one word. I do hope they give the translators context for ambiguous stuff, so we don't end up like when they changed "Lace" Harding's first name to "Borte" cause they thought it was a nickname. Grauer Wolf des grauen Grrrrrauens. Though now I've kinda have to think that, if Solas' gets this wolf form, it will be purple. At some point, perhaps I'll start calling him Gmork.
I second that. Though I do wonder if the translator tried to make a sort of double meaning here. While "Borte" is of course a very direct translation and unecessary as you said, did they think of Borte/Börte, the first wife of Temüjin a.k.a. Chingis Khan? Ahhh, I'm just spitballin'. If it would be translated into German more correctly/fitting and would also had the potential for being an official Titel it would be more like: Schreckenswolf Just wanted to mention it x) |
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Post by Gilli on Jun 5, 2022 18:43:37 GMT
Hmm, I doubt they will change the wording in german. Though if they would, I wonder to what they could change it. Let's see... one translation I could see to work if they wanted to change it for the title might be Grauenswolf. Funnily, you could misread that as "Grauer Wolf" Maybe that's why they went with Schreckenswolf as translation. It might just work better as a title if it's one word. I do hope they give the translators context for ambiguous stuff, so we don't end up like when they changed "Lace" Harding's first name to "Borte" cause they thought it was a nickname. Grauer Wolf des grauen Grrrrrauens. Though now I've kinda have to think that, if Solas' gets this wolf form, it will be purple. At some point, perhaps I'll start calling him Gmork.
I second that. Though I do wonder if the translator tried to make a sort of double meaning here. While "Borte" is of course a very direct translation and unecessary as you said, did they think of Borte/Börte, the first wife of Temüjin a.k.a. Chingis Khan? Ahhh, I'm just spitballin'.  Tbh I feel like the translators had just no idea who was meant and thought it might be someone's "nickname" like what the Chargers use. Grauer Wolf des grauen Grrrrrauens. Though now I've kinda have to think that, if Solas' gets this wolf form, it will be purple. At some point, perhaps I'll start calling him Gmork.
I second that. Though I do wonder if the translator tried to make a sort of double meaning here. While "Borte" is of course a very direct translation and unecessary as you said, did they think of Borte/Börte, the first wife of Temüjin a.k.a. Chingis Khan? Ahhh, I'm just spitballin'. If it would be translated into German more correctly/fitting and would also had the potential for being an official Titel it would be more like: Schreckenswolf Just wanted to mention it x) Schreckenswolf is already the official translation for Dread Wolf. We were talking about if they might hypothetically change the meaning only for the title of the game.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jun 5, 2022 18:49:10 GMT
"What can BioWare's title reveal and purple color scheme tell us about Dragon Age: Dreadwolf?"  Isn't purple the color of sexual frustration? Green is envy, red passion/love..... 
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 5, 2022 19:47:22 GMT
Isn't purple the color of sexual frustration? Green is envy, red passion/love..... Never heard of that one. When I did yoga classes some years ago, I was told purple was the colour of peace and serenity. I'm fairly certain you cannot be both of these at the same time.  Another bit of trivia associated with the colour purple and today, which is the Feast of the Spirit or Pentecost in the Christian Church. Bishops wear an amethyst ring which is purple and signifies they are not drunk, which is the meaning of the word for the stone, which was associated with preventing intoxication in ancient times. The reason they do this is because everyone assumed when the apostles burst forth on the first Pentecost in a state of high excitement that they were drunk, which St. Peter denied on the basis it was only nine in the morning! (Not a particularly good justification on the basis of some all night parties I have been to). Anyway, perhaps the purple is just to reassure us that Solas is totally sober and did not come up with his plan after an all night drinking session with Dorian and the Iron Bull.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 5, 2022 20:19:41 GMT
Isn't purple the color of sexual frustration? Green is envy, red passion/love..... Never heard of that one. When I did yoga classes some years ago, I was told purple was the colour of peace and serenity. I'm fairly certain you cannot be both of these at the same time. Another bit of trivia associated with the colour purple and today, which is the Feast of the Spirit or Pentecost in the Christian Church. Bishops wear an amethyst ring which is purple and signifies they are not drunk, which is the meaning of the word for the stone, which was associated with preventing intoxication in ancient times. The reason they do this is because everyone assumed when the apostles burst forth on the first Pentecost in a state of high excitement that they were drunk, which St. Peter denied on the basis it was only nine in the morning! (Not a particularly good justification on the basis of some all night parties I have been to). Anyway, perhaps the purple is just to reassure us that Solas is totally sober and did not come up with his plan after an all night drinking session with Dorian and the Iron Bull. He lost Wicked Grace to Josephine and his pride couldn’t take it. |
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Post by q5tyhj on Jun 5, 2022 23:07:00 GMT
idk what all the fuss is about, i fucking love the color purple  |
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 6, 2022 2:26:48 GMT
I like the title and didn’t really feel it was lackluster. lol it’s a pity we didn’t get a trailer with it, but still. The announcement did its job. The devs know they need to provide us with at least *some* proof of life after 8 years. This did that.
Also don’t have an issue with the color scheme. I’m sure the game will still have more than enough blood in it to sufficiently decorate everyone’s teeth before you toggle it off.
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Post by roselavellan on Jun 6, 2022 5:11:55 GMT
I'm surprised the colour choice is even mildly controversial. I've always heard that purple symbolises spirituality and magical power, so it's no surprise to me that a game set in Tevinter and focusing on Solas is themed in purple. I wonder also if Bioware wanted to hint that the delineation between red and blue magic, perhaps as used by Solas, is less clear in DA4 than previously.
Anyway, I'm somewhat excited by the announcement, but of course a little wary of being hyped at this stage. Not that happy that the acronym is DAD, google searches for DAI were super simple, imagine wanting to google DAD weapons or something.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jun 6, 2022 5:21:23 GMT
I keep feeling the urge to just refer to it as Dreadwolf or DW, like I spell out Inquisition sometimes. Not sure DAD will win out even if the dev team is using it. And searching “dreadwolf weapons” will work much better.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 6, 2022 7:40:17 GMT
2. I love how the blog post is like we did hint at his return in 2018. I mean they hinted in 2014, 2015, 2018, and 2020 before now. Not so much a hint as beating us over the heads with his return. Whilst both the epilogue to DAI and Trespasser seemed to suggest we were going to see him at some point in the future, it wasn't necessarily guaranteed to be in the next game, whereas the 2018 trailer did seem to confirm that would be the focus of the next game. What I keep saying is that whilst they wouldn't necessarily mention the earlier game references when there was a more recent trailer, it does seem strange they didn't use the 2020 trailer as their point of reference but instead referred back to 2018. I've been asking over on the Schmooples thread: Can anyone remember if the 2020 trailer used to be on the official Bioware site and where it was located because I can't seem to find it anywhere. If I am right about this, then it would seem they don't want us referencing the 2020 trailer because the majority of its content is no longer relevant. Mind you I can't find the 2018 trailer anywhere on the site either. I was just watching a video of Jackdaw and a assumption came up. Please don't nail me on that. What if antiva, which was shown so well in the 2020 trailer, only refers to the live service constant. And that they going back to the 2018 means: going back to SP obviously, but now they have to much contant and forgetting 2020 trailer give them more scope to cut contant out.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 6, 2022 7:58:04 GMT
What if antiva, which was shown so well in the 2020 trailer, only refers to the live service constant. And that they going back to the 2018 means: going back to SP obviously, but now they have to much contant and forgetting 2020 trailer give them more scope to cut contant out. That is what I and some others have been saying so you are not crazy for thinking this. It just seems so odd that his return was more than hinted at in the 2020 trailer and yet they refer back to the one in 2018 and phrase it as though it is the only example rather than, perhaps, saying it was their first hint. The main Dragon Age logo has changed too, from golden to fractured white. That definitely suggests a difference in emphasis to me. We know from the labels attached to much of the maritime city artwork in the 2020 trailer that it was showcasing Antiva City, not Minrathous, and the gold logo was appropriate to that country. The tweets from Bioware accompanying that trailer suggested it showed factions we might be working with, which does lend support to the idea it was showing areas and characters we would be working with from the multi-player game. Personally, I think the idea originally was to have a core single-player element to the game but with a supporting multi-player component, probably more akin to the multi-player relationship to the main game found in ME3 than in DAI. Regardless, when the decision was made to focus on the single player game, it made much of the 2020 trailer redundant and so that is why they are avoiding referencing it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 6, 2022 8:06:03 GMT
I wonder also if Bioware wanted to hint that the delineation between red and blue magic, perhaps as used by Solas, is less clear in DA4 than previously. This is a distinct possibility. Solas originally said he saw nothing morally wrong about using blood magic but that he avoided it personally because it affected his connection with the Fade. He also said anyone who thought they could use blight magic safely was crazy but that was before he lost his orb, so he might have decided it is worth the risk. Purple could mean he is now using both blue and red lyrium to give him the power he needs. However, I still agree that the most likely explanation is that it refers to the fact that he closely identifies with the spirit realm, in Dragon Age spirit magic is associated with the colour purple and the Dreadwolf is most powerful in the Fade or, as he calls it, the Sea of Dreams. |
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 6, 2022 8:07:02 GMT
Was it really her power????? |
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 6, 2022 8:11:53 GMT
Schreckenswolf is already the official translation I find it strange, because i would translade it: gefürchteter Wolf and Schreckenswolf could had been the dreadwolf variant. |
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 6, 2022 8:32:53 GMT
Was it really her power????? To be honest, I have no idea but there was some sort of data mine that someone did that suggested this was the case. Clearly he took something from her because of the way his eyes changed afterwards. Or do you suppose that simply indicated his own power had returned and this is why he was able to kill her? Also, something definitely seemed to transfer between them. |
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 6, 2022 8:39:13 GMT
He lost Wicked Grace to Josephine and his pride couldn’t take it. That is another possibility. Actually there is another reference back to DAI that interested me. Remember the prolonged chess match he has with the Iron Bull and how he defeats him by sacrificing his queen and then using an insignificant pawn to checkmate him? So, what do you make of this?: Rest assured, Solas is placing his pieces on the board as we speak. This further encourages me to feel that one of our options for defeating him may not involve brute force but out moving him with our own pieces on the board. It is also worth remembering that Iron Bull thought he had the game won but didn't spot the significance of that pawn until it was too late and Solas moved his mage to seal it. They were his only two pieces left on the board. Essentially Solas is willing to sacrifice everyone, even his own side, to achieve his aim (although we already knew that from Felassan). Still, never assume he is defeated until he is and keep watch for the person of no importance.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jun 6, 2022 9:09:46 GMT
I've been asking over on the Schmooples thread: Can anyone remember if the 2020 trailer used to be on the official Bioware site and where it was located because I can't seem to find it anywhere. If I am right about this, then it would seem they don't want us referencing the 2020 trailer because the majority of its content is no longer relevant. Mind you I can't find the 2018 trailer anywhere on the site either. Its on the official dragon age site right now www.ea.com/en-gb/games/dragon-agego here, click "watch the trailer" and the 2020 trailer will play. Or you can scroll down to the slide show and find that it is on slide 1/10. The BTS trailer is also here (slide 6/10), however the 2018 #thedreadwolfrises teaser with the idol does not seem to be on the official dragon age site right now. But it's mural is and that teaser can be found on the dragon age youtube channel.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 6, 2022 9:16:10 GMT
Was it really her power????? To be honest, I have no idea but there was some sort of data mine that someone did that suggested this was the case. Clearly he took something from her because of the way his eyes changed afterwards. Or do you suppose that simply indicated his own power had returned and this is why he was able to kill her? Also, something definitely seemed to transfer between them. I am not sure. He took something to 1. get his full own power or 2. get his plan done.
For 1 i think flemeth power will do. For 2 he take the power of the old god. I think mythals power going through the eluvian.
Flemeth said to the inquisitor she will see mythals Revenge done. maybe felemth/mythal going together through the eluvian?
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Post by gnoll on Jun 6, 2022 9:19:22 GMT
He lost Wicked Grace to Josephine and his pride couldn’t take it. That is another possibility. Actually there is another reference back to DAI that interested me. Remember the prolonged chess match he has with the Iron Bull and how he defeats him by sacrificing his queen and then using an insignificant pawn to checkmate him? So, what do you make of this?: Rest assured, Solas is placing his pieces on the board as we speak. This further encourages me to feel that one of our options for defeating him may not involve brute force but out moving him with our own pieces on the board. It is also worth remembering that Iron Bull thought he had the game won but didn't spot the significance of that pawn until it was too late and Solas moved his mage to seal it. They were his only two pieces left on the board. Essentially Solas is willing to sacrifice everyone, even his own side, to achieve his aim (although we already knew that from Felassan). Still, never assume he is defeated until he is and keep watch for the person of no importance. It's also interesting with Queen and Pawn. Aren't Solas girl not a queen that he sacrificed? And maybe the Pawn is our new hero, who will fight against qunari? |
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jun 6, 2022 9:48:20 GMT
That is another possibility. Actually there is another reference back to DAI that interested me. Remember the prolonged chess match he has with the Iron Bull and how he defeats him by sacrificing his queen and then using an insignificant pawn to checkmate him? So, what do you make of this?: Rest assured, Solas is placing his pieces on the board as we speak. This further encourages me to feel that one of our options for defeating him may not involve brute force but out moving him with our own pieces on the board. It is also worth remembering that Iron Bull thought he had the game won but didn't spot the significance of that pawn until it was too late and Solas moved his mage to seal it. They were his only two pieces left on the board. Essentially Solas is willing to sacrifice everyone, even his own side, to achieve his aim (although we already knew that from Felassan). Still, never assume he is defeated until he is and keep watch for the person of no importance. It's also interesting with Queen and Pawn. Aren't Solas girl not a queen that he sacrificed? And maybe the Pawn is our new hero, who will fight against qunari? I personally think the Queen piece in question is meant to represent Mythal/Flemeth (whom he sacrifices in order to regain his power), the Pawn is Solas himself, at least in the chess game against Iron Bull. After all not everyone played a female Lavellan who romanced Solas. 
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Post by azarhal on Jun 6, 2022 11:08:06 GMT
It's also interesting with Queen and Pawn. Aren't Solas girl not a queen that he sacrificed? And maybe the Pawn is our new hero, who will fight against qunari? I personally think the Queen piece in question is meant to represent Mythal/Flemeth (whom he sacrifices in order to regain his power), the Pawn is Solas himself, at least in the chess game against Iron Bull. After all not everyone played a female Lavellan who romanced Solas.  The Queen in Dreadwolf isn't Mythal. This is a new game, he won the last one in DAI/Trespasser after sacrificing his Queen(Mythal) and that happened after he lost another big piece (the foci). Solas is the King, he's the one you have to take down. The player character will star as a pawn in the next game. It fit way too well with the marketing-speak about the player character being a "nobody", someone without connections or established power backing them. They won't be worth paying attention to. That fit with the pawn description in the chess game. And I wouldn't be surprised if they started as Solas's pawn, but might not stay as one all game. By the way, chess has a rule for promoting Pawn to Queen.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 6, 2022 11:19:28 GMT
I personally think the Queen piece in question is meant to represent Mythal/Flemeth (whom he sacrifices in order to regain his power), the Pawn is Solas himself, at least in the chess game against Iron Bull. After all not everyone played a female Lavellan who romanced Solas. I think you are correct about the Queen but he has two pieces left at the end. The pawn is the one who has been moving around disregarded, his mage (bishop) is the one who makes the final move to checkmate the opposition King. Strangely enough, Iron Bull doesn't call his King the Arishok but instead gives the title to his Queen. Also, his Ben Hassrath think they are closing in on Solas, only for his feint to be revealed. Of course, it could just be foreshadowing the events of Trespasser, so that would make the Inquisitor his pawn against the Viddasala, with him having the final move which turns her to stone, or it could mean nothing at all except that Solas is good at chess. I just found it interesting that they referred back to this in saying he is placing his pieces on the board, so if nothing else I think we are going to have to outwit the master trickster in order to even get close to him and then be aware that it may be part of his strategy to let you. |
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 6, 2022 11:24:10 GMT
The player character will star as a pawn in the next game. It fit way too well with the marketing-speak about the player character being a "nobody", someone without connections or established power backing them. They won't be worth paying attention to. That fit with the pawn description in the chess game. And I wouldn't be surprised if they started as Solas's pawn, but might not stay as one all game. That is one possibility. "Everything you do, whether you know it or not, will be for her." That is another, that it is possible that he could be the pawn of Mythal. By the way, chess has a rule for promoting Pawn to Queen. It does indeed. It wasn't needed in that game but who is to say about the next one.
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Post by Gilli on Jun 6, 2022 11:33:19 GMT
Schreckenswolf is already the official translation I find it strange, because i would translade it: gefürchteter Wolf and Schreckenswolf could had been the dreadwolf variant. I don't know, "gefürchteter Wolf" sounds so generic. Like, it just makes me think of a normal wolf that is feared.
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