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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 11, 2022 19:49:16 GMT
With Fairbanks calling her a rebel, remember she immediately explains how she’s not really a rebel but calls herself a rebel because “people pay you more to blow stuff up if it’s for something they believe in.” Sounds like someone who ran with the Red Jennies, if I didn't know that Sera is petrified of magic. Mind you, the leaders of other cells might be okay with it. They really need to come up with a convincing back story for her if they do a second series. "Rebel mage" wouldn't normally be something that would go down well in the south whether people wanted stuff blown up or not. If it were me, I'd have definitely gone with "Healer" as the focus. I imagine she’s either relatively new to this kind of work, like joined the Inquisition as her first, or before that was like Adaar as part of a mercenary group that dubbed themselves rebels for that same mindset.
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Post by Solas on Dec 11, 2022 20:33:47 GMT
I think some of the stuff in the What Dragon Age: Absolution Reveals About DA4: Dreadwolf's World State article is stretch
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 11, 2022 20:34:37 GMT
Bringing up the Valo-Kas again, their leader's name Shokrakar means "rebel", which could make her a "rebel's mage" if Qwydion was a former member and wanted to get cute about it. And Shokrakar mentions Ashaad, a member of unspecified gender, leaving the merc company after being rescued by the Inquisition. And, in the same letter, complains about unspecified people having or getting "stupid ideas about meaning and purpose". I wonder if maybe my initial assessment was wrong and Qwydion could be Ashaad, who left her merc company to join the Inquisition due to a new sense of purpose after they rescued her. Which Shokrakar is amusingly salty about. If the writers wanted to include the company, of course. I might headcanon it till we're told otherwise anyway. lol Text from Shokrakar I'm referencing: Adaar,
Hissra, Sataa, and Meraad are dead. Ashaad left, so I guess we only have one now.
The rest of the squad are alive. And they don't have any stupid ideas about meaning and purpose, so that's good. Although Kaariss wrote you a poem to celebrate being rescued. So, not all good.
Shokrakar I recognize the "ideas about meaning and purpose" could also be a dig at Inquisitor Adaar, who would theoretically have those by the end of the game and whom Shokrakar is also kind of salty about losing to the Inquisition. Plus she just seems to enjoy ribbing Adaar in general. Still though, headcanon. lol
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 11, 2022 20:53:49 GMT
Ok, so can someone explain to me why we are assuming that Absolution is taking place post-Trespasser? Is it simply b/c they are looking for an artefact?
B/c, in theory, couldn't the Inquisition be doing that before Trespasser, if the pitch Hira gave to go after the artefact was properly sold to them? Like, "this artefact could empower the venatori to bring back Corypheus" or something? It doesn't have to be the Shadow Inquisition, I don't think.
Did I miss context clues? Is the timeline outright stated somewhere I missed?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 11, 2022 21:02:40 GMT
Ok, so can someone explain to me why we are assuming that Absolution is taking place post-Trespasser? They said something about it being a final mission that was given before the Inquisition disbanded. That's why Hira was trying to sell the idea to Miriam that they would just do this one and then retire to their cheese farm in Ferelden. I don't think that would have worked if the Inquisition was still known to be active. That said, there was the discussion about taking the Artifact to Skyhold, which was odd if the Inquisition was no longer active. Hira had also tried to sell the idea to the leadership that with their job done in the south, they should use the Inquisition to destroy Tevinter. I think she was a bit pie in the sky with that idea. Even if they didn't have moral objections to wiping all of Tevinter, the good and the bad, off the face of Thedas, Leliana and Cassandra would have the sense to realise that taking on the entire Imperium was a bit different to just Cory and his band of cultists.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 11, 2022 21:11:48 GMT
Did I miss context clues? Is the timeline outright stated somewhere I missed? Of course, it could be argued that it was following the main game rather than Trespasser and that perhaps the Inquisition was already winding down a bit after defeating Cory, so that would make it somewhere between 9:42/43 and 9:44. Our inner circle had been off doing stuff on their own before the Exalted Council. However, that would make the whole business with Meredith even more suspect. If we hadn't been officially disbanded and Leliana/Fairbanks suspected a rat, presumably Leliana would have tried to trace Hira's contacts and wound up in Kirkwall. Varric had also been back there to supervise its recovery and get offered the job of Viscount as a result.
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Post by bshep on Dec 11, 2022 22:18:25 GMT
I think some of the stuff in the What Dragon Age: Absolution Reveals About DA4: Dreadwolf's World State article is stretch What article?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 11, 2022 23:12:30 GMT
Ok, so can someone explain to me why we are assuming that Absolution is taking place post-Trespasser? Is it simply b/c they are looking for an artefact? B/c, in theory, couldn't the Inquisition be doing that before Trespasser, if the pitch Hira gave to go after the artefact was properly sold to them? Like, "this artefact could empower the venatori to bring back Corypheus" or something? It doesn't have to be the Shadow Inquisition, I don't think. Did I miss context clues? Is the timeline outright stated somewhere I missed? Hira mentions that the Inquisition “broke up” which happens at the end of Trespasser.
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Post by Solas on Dec 12, 2022 0:36:26 GMT
I think some of the stuff in the What Dragon Age: Absolution Reveals About DA4: Dreadwolf's World State article is stretch What article? dont have it to hand atm but someone shared the link to it some pages back in this thread
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 12, 2022 1:38:06 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't.
Rowhanna @ladyrowhanna On the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 12, 2022 1:49:48 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. Thank fuck for that. I can pretend this whole thing was bad fanfiction. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 12, 2022 3:05:14 GMT
Ok, so Meredith and Cory are in the past, in the games. Cool.
Bets on how long this will take to become an Netflix Marvel vs Agents of Shield vs MCU issue, though? Like... if Solas or the Evanuris or whoever do significant damage to the veil, or the Qun makes peace with Thedas, or some other major event happens in either the game or the show that the others' characters should react to, but they don't? That's the major prolem if you aren't tying the show in closely to the game. Like, will this mean Kirkwall is in a quantum state now cus who knows what the show will do to it? Not that I was expecting it to be revisited in person, but I still think its an extremely significant locale in the lore, especially if any of the theories about what the Band of Three found hold true. It would suck if the show touching a locale made it untouchable in the games in the name of allowing the show freedom to tell its story. It would equally suck if we got contradicting lore instead and had to have arguments over what's really canon. I mean, the books/comics kinda had that to an extent, but mostly restricted to what world state was canon for that item.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 12, 2022 4:03:57 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons. Of course. Figures the one part of their expanded universe I actually like won’t appear in the games.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 12, 2022 4:05:24 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons. Of course. Figures the one part of their expanded universe I actually like won’t appear in the games. Yeah, but think of it this way, at least they won't be butchered by those horrible people at Bioware.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 12, 2022 4:08:56 GMT
I love her.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 12, 2022 4:09:21 GMT
Of course. Figures the one part of their expanded universe I actually like won’t appear in the games. Yeah, but think of it this way, at least they won't be butchered by those horrible people at Bioware. I guess… Well, back to looking forward to absolutely nothing about DAD.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 12, 2022 4:09:42 GMT
This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons.Yeah, Netflix always cancels good shows. They don't care much for their animation department.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 12, 2022 4:21:03 GMT
I love her. She really was the best part of the show. If Bioware won't bring her into Dreadwolf cus she's in the show, I'll take her twin, Mydion, identical in both looks and personality, in her place. That works right?
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Post by smilesja on Dec 12, 2022 4:22:42 GMT
I love her. She really was the best part of the show. If Bioware won't bring her into Dreadwolf cus she's in the show, I'll take her twin, Mydion, identical in both looks and personality, in her place. That works right? Just add a mustache to her and she'll be good to go!
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Dec 12, 2022 4:30:54 GMT
I love her. GIANTESS GIANTESS GIANTESS GIANTESS GIANTESS
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Post by bshep on Dec 12, 2022 4:42:02 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons. Now we need to make everyone and their dogs in our families to watch the series to make that happen. Netflix has been brutal when cancelling series in the last few years. Still as a animation i suspect the production costs are smaller than the same type of genre in live action, so i believe there is hope (Dragon Prince got renewed for 4 seasons in one go).
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Post by Kyros on Dec 12, 2022 6:09:40 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons. Thank god Meredith being alive was already a big red flag for me.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 8:37:37 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. There we go, I thought as much. It is a self-contained story and we can stop reading an interpretation of Solas' murals as a consequence of it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 8:41:54 GMT
If Bioware won't bring her into Dreadwolf cus she's in the show, I'll take her twin, Mydion, identical in both looks and personality, in her place. That works right? Except instead of being a mage, she's a rebel with two daggers. Now the Qunari lady in the concept art may not be as cute as Qwydion but I would bet good money that she is going to be a companion.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 12, 2022 12:02:11 GMT
For those wondering how Absolution might tie into Dreadwolf... it won't. Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons. Now we need to make everyone and their dogs in our families to watch the series to make that happen. Netflix has been brutal when cancelling series in the last few years. Still as a animation i suspect the production costs are smaller than the same type of genre in live action, so i believe there is hope ( Dragon Prince got renewed for 4 seasons in one go). That was before the leadership change at Netflix* and after 3 seasons released. Before that was announced fans were sure Netflix had cancelled it since there was zero news for months. Wonderstorm basically blackmailed Netflix: you give us our last 4 season now, or we stop here. It only worked because Dragon Prince is their anime version of The Stranger Things in term of popularity. I can assure you Absolution won't reach that popularity level, everyone online is saying that if you aren't a Dragon Age fan you shouldn't bother watching it too. *that's when they started to focus on online popularity + hours viewed in first week/month as parameters for renewal
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