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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 12, 2022 12:59:46 GMT
There is basically no chance of Absolution getting a Season Two unless they've already made another six episodes to release before Dreadwolf and just didn't announce that in advance. This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the show and everything to do with the way Netflix has been cancelling basically everything lately. Hell, they barely renewed The Sandman! I mean, maaaaaaybe if it was a huge mainstream hit, but probably not even then. Plenty of recent Netflix shows have had buzz and good reviews and been canned anyway. It has also been a really bad year for animated shows in general, especially animated shows with LGBT+ audience appeal.
Could they have made something that was less targeted at fans of a franchise that hasn't had a game released in eight years and appealed to a broader audience? Probably. Would this have got them a Season Two? Almost certainly not. So I'm glad we got the show we got, all things considered.
(I'm not overly stressed about the cliff-hanger not being resolved. It's not like the spin-off materials seem to be going anywhere, and Maighred Scott has also written for comics ...)
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Post by Iddy on Dec 12, 2022 13:07:25 GMT
So... this is all canon, right? It's not just a meaningless spin off?
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 12, 2022 14:04:33 GMT
So... this is all canon, right? It's not just a meaningless spin off? It's in the same category as the books and the comics* and Dawn of the Seeker, so I guess if you think those are canon than this is too?
*OK probably not the IDW ones written by Orson Scott Card, but all the ones since.
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Post by Iddy on Dec 12, 2022 14:16:22 GMT
So... this is all canon, right? It's not just a meaningless spin off? It's in the same category as the books and the comics* and Dawn of the Seeker, so I guess if you think those are canon than this is too?
*OK probably not the IDW ones written by Orson Scott Card, but all the ones since.
There is no such thing as "thinking" the books are canon. Their plot ties directly into the games. I'm not so sure about the comics though.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 12, 2022 14:27:23 GMT
There is no such thing as "thinking" the books are canon. Their plot ties directly into the games. I'm not so sure about the comics though. The Dark Horse comics have also been referenced in game, because we know that Varric met the current Arishok (who used to be Sten back when the Warden knew him.)
There will probably be some reference to the more recent comics and to Absolution in Dreadwolf, but obviously we can't know for sure yet.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 17:50:27 GMT
So... this is all canon, right? It's not just a meaningless spin off? Rowhanna @ladyrowhannaOn the Unofficial DA stream that question was asked and the answer is "no". They want the Absolution team to have IP ownership of the characters and plot while having no connection to events in DA:D. This gives Absolution more freedom for further seasons. Now it is possible that the events in Absolution could be referenced further down the line if we have a DA5 but at present it has no part in the lore for the game. So there will be no Circullum in DA:D, nor will certain other revelations have any sort of impact on it. Also, we won't be seeing any of those characters as companions in DA:D. Essentially, no Meredith is not going to be playing a part in it. If there is not a second season of the series, then I presume we can just imagine that the team managed to stop Hira and her associates from resurrecting her. Also, Varric will not be referencing any events involving them in Kirkwall.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 12, 2022 18:05:09 GMT
So... this is all canon, right? It's not just a meaningless spin off? Yes, this is still canon. It just won’t have any connection to the next game. Also someone in that Twitter convo brought up that since BioWare and EA own all the rights they can always change their minds about connecting Absolution to other things later on.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 12, 2022 18:05:37 GMT
Essentially, no Meredith is not going to be playing a part in it.
I think its wierd to bring Meredith back from the dead just to kill her in season 2 or if there is no season 2 well somewhere else. New comic series? I mean Fairbanks is a pretty minor character so no big deal but i also wonder that´s the point in picking him and killing him already of at the end of episode 2?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 18:07:26 GMT
It's in the same category as the books and the comics* and Dawn of the Seeker, so I guess if you think those are canon than this is too? A lot depends on timing. Dawn of the Seeker pre-dated both DAO and DA2 in the timeline but was too close to the development of both games for the events to be referenced in them, even though Cassandra was introduced in Dawn of the Seeker. However, by DAI they were able to incorporate events and characters from DotS into Cassandra's back story, so I presume that is when it became canon. The novels fed directly into the games but the comics have less direct impact, although that is apparently going to change with the latest one releasing in January. It remains to be seen whether any characters first introduced in a comic series will become major players in DA:D but they are seen as canon because characters from the first comic series were included in World of Thedas 2, so if we ever get a World of Thedas 3, then I imagine characters from later comic series will be too.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 18:14:13 GMT
if there is no season 2 well somewhere else. New comic series? I imagine that will be the case. Either the writers will be invited by Bioware to finish their story in a comic series or they will assume events played out as intended and this will be referenced in DA5 or associated lore books. I've mentioned in my previous post how Dawn of the Seeker was not mentioned in either DAO or DA2, even though the events in it happened earlier in the timeline than either game. However, it was referenced in DAI. So, if we should ever get a DA5, that is where the events might be referenced.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 12, 2022 18:23:52 GMT
or they will assume events played out as intended and this will be referenced in DA5 or associated lore books. Or in one DAD DLC. I mean M. isn´t a minor character or thread i bet the fanbase will ask what about M. ? Of course because Dawn of the Seeker was a year later. So the comparison is a bit unfair. Dawn of the Seeker also takes place in Orlais not Ferelden (DAO) and not in Kirkwall (DA 2). And Cassandra had no reason her past to Varric with their little screentime in DA 2. So yeah it make totally sense that this will be handled in DAI in a side dialogue. But M. is a "bit" more a previous unknown adventure in a different country.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 18:37:07 GMT
Or in one DAD DLC. I mean M. isn´t a minor character or thread i bet the fanbase will ask what about M. ? Most of them will have caught up with the relation between the two either on these boards or Twitter. However, depending on how DA:D finishes, they could make it a stand alone sort of DLC, a bit like Jaws of Hakkon, which had no real connection to the plot of the main game apart from historical interest into what happened to the last Inquisitor.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 12, 2022 18:46:11 GMT
And Cassandra had no reason her past to Varric with their little screentime in DA 2. I was thinking more that it wasn't even referenced in a codex. By DAI Cassandra has acquired a reputation as a result of the events in DotS, so it was strange it was never mentioned in DA2, particularly by Varric. The Grand Cathedral was attacked by a cohort of dragons as part of a major coup against the Divine. That is a bit hard to cover up, so I imagine that Varric would have got wind of it on the underworld grapevine if nothing else. You would have think he would have made some sort of crack about it. Let's face it, even if the cartoon came out after DA2, it would have been in production around the same time and Bioware would have had to have given the okay for the plot. Of course, if they had referenced it, it would have been a spoiler for the show, so nothing was said. I appreciate that the opposite is true in the latest case, so far as the first series is concerned, but it seems likely that even if Netflix okay another series, it wouldn't release in time to beat DA:D, or Bioware couldn't take that risk, so that is why it couldn't impact on what we encounter in the game and it had to be self-contained.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 12, 2022 18:57:14 GMT
Or in one DAD DLC. I mean M. isn´t a minor character or thread i bet the fanbase will ask what about M. ? Most of them will have caught up with the relation between the two either on these boards or Twitter. However, depending on how DA:D finishes, they could make it a stand alone sort of DLC, a bit like Jaws of Hakkon, which had no real connection to the plot of the main game apart from historical interest into what happened to the last Inquisitor. Corypheus was only a DLC threat first and then i was promoted to DAI main villian but M. is well not a minor either. After Dreadwolf aka Solas and parts of the Qunari M. has to be third big threat in Thedas.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 12, 2022 20:29:53 GMT
Most of them will have caught up with the relation between the two either on these boards or Twitter. However, depending on how DA:D finishes, they could make it a stand alone sort of DLC, a bit like Jaws of Hakkon, which had no real connection to the plot of the main game apart from historical interest into what happened to the last Inquisitor. Corypheus was only a DLC threat first and then i was promoted to DAI main villian but M. is well not a minor either. After Dreadwolf aka Solas and parts of the Qunari M. has to be third big threat in Thedas.
She's not much of a threat, at the moment, and doesn't have to become one. She's still just one knight commander leading some red templars.
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Post by bshep on Dec 13, 2022 5:09:14 GMT
That was before the leadership change at Netflix* and after 3 seasons released. Before that was announced fans were sure Netflix had cancelled it since there was zero news for months. Wonderstorm basically blackmailed Netflix: you give us our last 4 season now, or we stop here. It only worked because Dragon Prince is their anime version of The Stranger Things in term of popularity. I can assure you Absolution won't reach that popularity level, everyone online is saying that if you aren't a Dragon Age fan you shouldn't bother watching it too. *that's when they started to focus on online popularity + hours viewed in first week/month as parameters for renewal I know Netflix has been horrible with the cancelations and marketing their own shows. But the point about the production cust still remains, If the show is relativily cheap to create that should give it a easier chance to have a second season greenlit even if the viewership numbers don't reach the top.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 13, 2022 5:12:17 GMT
Since BioWare & EA own the IP, if Netflix cancels it but they want to continue can’t they just go to another service to host it?
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Post by helios969 on Dec 13, 2022 5:26:51 GMT
Finished it last night...pretty meh. Art style was meh, writing was predictable and therefore meh, cool-factor non-existent. Others have said it but it's far away from Edgerunners and Arcane in terms of quality. Qwydion was the best thing about the show...too bad she's not a companion in DAD...she'd make the party a party. I liked the end reveal too...that was biggest surprise/twist...I wouldn't mind if that were tied into DAD...perhaps something Solas exploits for his own goals.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 13, 2022 6:52:57 GMT
The fact I actually like the protagonists and wasn’t rooting for the antagonist to kill them like I was in Edgerunners makes it better in my opinion.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 13, 2022 7:50:19 GMT
The fact I actually like the protagonists and wasn’t rooting for the antagonist to kill them like I was in Edgerunners makes it better in my opinion. Why should I care if the show is like Edgerunners or Arcane? It's a good show, that's enough for me.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 13, 2022 7:58:04 GMT
So... this is all canon, right? It's not just a meaningless spin off? I suspect that would have depend on Absolution getting a second season, which as Andraste Reborn said isn’t going to happen. It just isn’t that popular with fans, based on what I’ve seen via Reddit, and not good enough to secure viewers outside of the fanbase. Most likely it’ll just get declared non-canon and forgotten about. Of course, if Dreadwolf fails commercially and critically, then the canonicity of Absolution won’t matter because the franchise will be dead and BioWare will likely be shuttered by EA.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 13, 2022 8:46:31 GMT
M. has to be third big threat in Thedas. The Blight is the biggest threat to Thedas after Solas and may well be what is motivating his action. I think red lyrium having been brought to the surface and growing there does have Solas worried, even more than the potential threat from the darkspawn. If we find a way of cleansing the world from the taint, that would presumably apply to red lyrium too, in which case M would no longer be a threat.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 13, 2022 11:51:46 GMT
Since BioWare & EA own the IP, if Netflix cancels it but they want to continue can’t they just go to another service to host it? Netflix might have part ownership on the show (not the IP) if they founded the production instead of just being a distributor. In that case, it would be much harder to bring it to another host services, they would have to buy the 1st season from Netflix and put in the money for the subsequent seasons.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 13, 2022 20:13:50 GMT
I tried watching it over dinner and lasted 9:33 minutes. I thought it was awful. Five minutes in and already full on forced romance drama instead of getting me interested in the plot. Elf chick over the top badass. Cringe humor by the qunari. Nope, I'm out. This is not for me. I hope DA4 is nothing like that writing. Sorry for coming in here pooping on it while you guys seem to have liked it OK at least. I rarely watch anime these days but kinda felt obligated to give this a shot. But won't continue watching. I was bored every second of the intro. Maybe I'm just done with Dragon Age. :/ Since this is apparently completely irreverent to DA4 I don't even need a plot summary. What I did wonder from those few minutes I watched though... It came off as if the story might be something along the lines of the initial DA4 heist idea? Or was my impression completely wrong? Not that the setup is anything original but my immediate association with the prelude was the vague DA4 idea that was scrapped. In any case, enjoy your discussions!
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Post by Iddy on Dec 13, 2022 20:47:46 GMT
I tried watching it over dinner and lasted 9:33 minutes. I thought it was awful. Five minutes in and already full on forced romance drama instead of getting me interested in the plot. Elf chick over the top badass. Cringe humor by the qunari. Nope, I'm out. This is not for me. I hope DA4 is nothing like that writing. Sorry for coming in here pooping on it while you guys seem to have liked it OK at least. I rarely watch anime these days but kinda felt obligated to give this a shot. But won't continue watching. I was bored every second of the intro. Maybe I'm just done with Dragon Age. :/ Since this is apparently completely irreverent to DA4 I don't even need a plot summary. What I did wonder from those few minutes I watched though... It came off as if the story might be something along the lines of the initial DA4 heist idea? Or was my impression completely wrong? Not that the setup is anything original but my immediate association with the prelude was the vague DA4 idea that was scrapped. In any case, enjoy your discussions! To be fair, it's only 6 episodes, so they had to speed things up. Not enough time to gradually ease you into the romance drama.
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