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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2022 23:38:21 GMT
Two episodes down, some will no doubt find this take to be anime-heresy, but...I liked them both a hell of a lot more than the Cyberpunk one. Written by a bunch of teenaged edgelords, as it seemed to be. It's good, so far. Boo! Booooo! :rage: Hiss! AAAAAAA!1!! Now that that's out of my system... I liked both? Found both edgy, and a little too YA? Still liked them.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 28, 2022 4:25:20 GMT
E3&4 down. This is why Tevinter can’t have nice things. Even the ‘good ones’ are petulant children with nuclear warheads when they don’t get their own way. The ‘animeness’ is wearing on me - giant back flips in full armour, two handed weapons twirling like they were made of paper, for examples - but I was prepared for that, and made allowances. Beyond that, I’m quite enjoying it. I ‘feel’ for Miriam, without exactly ‘liking’ her. I think Qwiddion and the dwarf are currently my favourites. I am having trouble understanding the Tevinter chain of command, though. Is the Knight Commander above the Magister? Or is it purely an emergency measure, like when the Secret Service can bundle the President into a locked room for their safety if they are ever threatened?
Also; “I’ll handle the dragon.”????
Riiiiiight. Bitch, please - you didn’t even have Blackwall with you.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 28, 2022 8:01:38 GMT
Is the Knight Commander above the Magister? Or is it purely an emergency measure, like when the Secret Service can bundle the President into a locked room for their safety if they are ever threatened? I think the second is the case.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 28, 2022 8:33:29 GMT
I think the second is the case. I would agree with this with the following caveat: They were in the Imperial Divine's Summer Palace complex so it is possible that the chain of command could work differently there than in Tevinter generally.
In Tevinter Nights the Knight Commander in Minrathous seemed unable to act against the wishes of a high ranking Altus family even if it hampered his own investigations. However, he answered to a powerful mage called a Justicar and they had the authority to override the authority of any citizen if they saw fit, although he found it easier to find a loophole so he could act without gaining the approval of the Justicar.
When Lambert was in Tevtinter, he was also constantly thwarted in his investigations by the way the system works, so at the very least I would say it is complicated.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 6, 2023 10:11:35 GMT
My two cents about spoilers for exactly what that's worth: I think with Dreadwolf on the horizon we might be well-served by moving to a system where we have threads with SPOILER in the title where spoilers can be posted uncut. So spoilers in other threads would still need to be marked, but in dedicated threads people could post without them. (Am I just saying this because I don't look forward to a whole year of spoiler-cutting everything about the new game after it comes out? Probably.) Honestly its what? Two extra clicks? From my perspective I think I'd rather be safe rather then sorry. Sure threads marked 'with spoilers' probably will be a thing but even in some of those threads, like the equivalent 'what did you do in Dragon Age' threads I may spoil anyways just as an extra curteousy. I mean, writing a spoiler response on mobile is a pain in the butt, lemme tell you.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 6, 2023 10:20:15 GMT
Honestly its what? Two extra clicks? From my perspective I think I'd rather be safe rather then sorry. Sure threads marked 'with spoilers' probably will be a thing but even in some of those threads, like the equivalent 'what did you do in Dragon Age' threads I may spoil anyways just as an extra curteousy. I mean, writing a spoiler response on mobile is a pain in the butt, lemme tell you. indeed
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Jan 8, 2023 20:16:43 GMT
I enjoyed the Netflix series, I dislike the over the top jumps and acrobatic flips even an Olympic level gymnast would struggle to achieve or plate armour that has the same defensive properties as block of gouda but for what it is, it is entertaining.
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Post by drake on Jan 10, 2023 9:59:13 GMT
I honestly loved the Netflix series. I didn't want to watch it, but I'm happy I did! I liked Miriam, but also the dynamic between Razaren and Tassia. I would have liked to see more about Qwydion and her backgournd. And... now I'm replaying Inquisition again (without doing many side quest beacause I'm old now and I don't have time to be a completionist lol)
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Post by colfoley on Jan 10, 2023 11:32:42 GMT
I honestly loved the Netflix series. I didn't want to watch it, but I'm happy I did! I liked Miriam, but also the dynamic between Razaren and Tassia. I would have liked to see more about Qwydion and her backgournd. And... now I'm replaying Inquisition again (without doing many side quest beacause I'm old now and I don't have time to be a completionist lol) Rezarren is certainly up there amongst my favorite DA baddies. Certainly not the Arishock or Architect but definitley in the Meredith and Corypheus range.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 14, 2023 4:13:30 GMT
E5 & 6 That was…a lot. Qwiddion was definitely my favourite character, but the whole ‘team’ were good. Overall, worth my time, but can’t help but feel that it was written for a very, very niche group; i.e. the people here (and in places like here) which won’t have done it many favours with the viewing hours, I’d have thought.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 14, 2023 8:10:17 GMT
E5 & 6 That was…a lot. Qwiddion was definitely my favourite character, but the whole ‘team’ were good. Overall, worth my time, but can’t help but feel that it was written for a very, very niche group; i.e. the people here (and in places like here) which won’t have done it many favours with the viewing hours, I’d have thought. This will pretty much be the lingering mystery about this series to me and the biggest (though probably still most pleasent, at least for me) surprise. Now Ghi'dirthalen from YouTube did mention that I guess she has people come up and mention that they are now interested in trying out the games now because of the anime so I guess at least someone it worked in this regard. But it was just so self referrential in big ways and small, so little of an explanation, and hit so many of the quitessential DA moments that it couldn't have been for newbies, not really. But given it was on Netflix it probably should have been. Its weird, but hey at least I ended up enjoying it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 14, 2023 8:13:32 GMT
I’m glad they went the route of focusing on existing fans rather than trying to reach as broad an audience as possible. We’ve seen video game shows that do the former succeed while those that do the latter fail.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 14, 2023 8:53:08 GMT
Overall, worth my time, but can’t help but feel that it was written for a very, very niche group; i.e. the people here (and in places like here) which won’t have done it many favours with the viewing hours, I’d have thought. I’m glad they went the route of focusing on existing fans rather than trying to reach as broad an audience as possible. We’ve seen video game shows that do the former succeed while those that do the latter fail. I think it was wise to cater the established fans but that doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't appeal to newbies. It is hard to be impartial and evaluate it from the PoV of a complete newcomer but I don't feel you would have to be immersed in the lore of Thedas to enjoy it if you were looking for a fantasy cartoon series and that is what a search threw up. There was just enough background information to understand what the stakes were in terms of the set up of society in Tevinter or the connection with the Inquisition. The use of established characters was for fans but those who lasted the entire series were the original characters, so would stand or fall on their merits in the story. The narrative was understandable and the action for the most part moved along at a brisk enough pace to keep the viewer engaged. I think Netflix would always have known it would appeal to a niche audience and were probably hoping that fans of the games would help bring in other people by word of mouth, whilst providing the core audience. If everyone who played the games, watched the series, that would make for pretty decent viewing figures. As for Bioware, they were probably hoping for the same but in the opposite direction. So the question is not how well it did for Neflix to think it was a worthwhile project but whether Bioware consider it raised the profile of the DA world.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 14, 2023 9:50:00 GMT
Overall, worth my time, but can’t help but feel that it was written for a very, very niche group; i.e. the people here (and in places like here) which won’t have done it many favours with the viewing hours, I’d have thought. I’m glad they went the route of focusing on existing fans rather than trying to reach as broad an audience as possible. We’ve seen video game shows that do the former succeed while those that do the latter fail. I think it was wise to cater the established fans but that doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't appeal to newbies. It is hard to be impartial and evaluate it from the PoV of a complete newcomer but I don't feel you would have to be immersed in the lore of Thedas to enjoy it if you were looking for a fantasy cartoon series and that is what a search threw up. There was just enough background information to understand what the stakes were in terms of the set up of society in Tevinter or the connection with the Inquisition. The use of established characters was for fans but those who lasted the entire series were the original characters, so would stand or fall on their merits in the story. The narrative was understandable and the action for the most part moved along at a brisk enough pace to keep the viewer engaged. I think Netflix would always have known it would appeal to a niche audience and were probably hoping that fans of the games would help bring in other people by word of mouth, whilst providing the core audience. If everyone who played the games, watched the series, that would make for pretty decent viewing figures. As for Bioware, they were probably hoping for the same but in the opposite direction. So the question is not how well it did for Neflix to think it was a worthwhile project but whether Bioware consider it raised the profile of the DA world. Maybe that’s the secret…. You’re right that it is hard to put myself in a newbies shoes. But even if you don’t know the little nods, they’re still there and you just keep on watching.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 14, 2023 15:31:32 GMT
I think there was enough exposition that someone who hasn’t played the games could follow it. They wouldn’t understand the true significance of the Inquisition and the full history of Tevinter obviously, but it was enough to follow the plot and hint at a wider world. If this was an original IP, I’d expect the inquisition to be expanded upon in future episodes, but I doubt it will be much. Tho who knows, since season 2 would involve Kirkwall and probably more former Inquisition such as Varric or Isabela.
I still felt that the biggest presentation issue for me was the character introductions were rushed at the start, but that is a pacing issue, not an issue of assuming audience knowledge.
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Post by thecommandershepard on Jan 14, 2023 20:56:59 GMT
Venatori are unlikely to be able to control darkspawn even with red lyrium (even if you could; red lyrium was only recently discovered and became available in Thedas substance, thanks Bianca), as the only creatures capable of doing it in the series were specific types of darkspawn and archdemons (who are tainted old gods). Magisters Sidereal seemingly can also do it, but so far, correctly, only Corpheus is said to have the power to wield a portion of the archdemon horde after its death (the codex alludes to multiple such darkspawn), while the Architect has little control over actual darkspawn (loss of memory could play a part in that). Mind you, darkspawn like Corypheus aren't merely ghouls (which didn't demonstrate such power), which is what you get if taint infects a normal person, they are full-blown darkspawn emissaries, so merely infection with taint will be insufficient here.
Even Avernus, who spent 200 years researching the potential of the taint and awakening it (albeit, to be fair, he was very constrained by circumstances), didn't manage to attain the power that would allow the grey warden to control darkspawn. Aside from the fact that red lyrium is allegedly tainted lyrium, there is no evidence that it provides power comparable to being tainted and allows the user to use blight magic. After all, blood magic is a separate school of magic, and many of its abilities are locked even if you have Lyrium, as not every power is simply a matter of a high enough mana cost that you can overcome with a sufficient amount of Lyrium. Blight magic seems to be a cousin of blood magic, if the power of blood that the warden can attain by awakening the potential of their taint is any indication.
Since Corypheus ability to control grey wardens and darkspawn wasn't really tied to red lyrium and more to being darkspawn, I'm skeptical of the notion that using red lyrium would be of much help, unless maybe venatori corrupted themselves with taint in the process, but then it ends very poorly for those venatori very quickly. If it's through red lyrium consumption, it doesn't appear to infect you with taint, as if this were the case, red templars would end up as ghouls or dead via taint rather quickly (which doesn't appear to be the case). Even Meredith, with her red lyrium sword, was not infected by it in span of of couple years.
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Post by Iddy on Jan 14, 2023 23:02:32 GMT
Is it actually possible for it to get a second season?
I mean, DA: Absolution is just a long ad for the next game, right? (Despite lacking a direct connection)
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Post by colfoley on Jan 15, 2023 1:20:01 GMT
Is it actually possible for it to get a second season? I mean, DA: Absolution is just a long ad for the next game, right? (Despite lacking a direct connection) I really don't get that feeling. Unless a certain someone shows up in Dreadwolf then the group is heading in the opposite direction.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 15, 2023 6:27:29 GMT
Is it actually possible for it to get a second season?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 15, 2023 8:58:09 GMT
Is it actually possible for it to get a second season? This will depend on actual viewing figures, how invested Bioware are in the project and the precise date of the release of the next game. Also, how the revenue stream works. The fact is the plot was set up in such a way that it can run independently of the next game, so it could be revived at any time, unlike the imminent comic series which is directly linked to the game. However, if a second series was dependent on the results from the first one, then it is unlikely to appear before the game, unless there is a unforeseen long delay in its release. I mean, DA: Absolution is just a long ad for the next game, right? Bioware would obviously hope it would help to raise the profile of the game, although to be honest I think it should have been closer to release for that to be the case. However, once the release date has been announced, it could be helpful as somewhere newbies could go to get a feel for the world.
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