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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 15, 2023 13:25:39 GMT
Does that strike anyone else as a bit ... odd? Like, this was all a set-up? On the whole it pays not to question the narrative too closely. Yes, it is odd how it developed in issue 2. If your wife had been turned to stone, would you just leave her there covered in a dust sheet? If he knew about her work for the Venatori, (and let's face it, why wouldn't he?),why leave all that information there when clearly your security had been compromised. Then, instead of improving security, not just Varric/Harding but also two Crows manage to infiltrate the home. Assuming this triggered some sort of alarm bell, why didn't the mage come with the original group of soldiers and servant? Shrug, I suppose he could have just returned home. Also, why did the Crows automatically assume the person following them was a Venatori? And considering they were led to the mansion by an invitation Solas apparently left behind in his Deep Roads lair ... This is the oddest part. Why does Solas keep on involving himself with the Venatori? For that matter, where are they getting their information about ancient artifacts from? Is he feeding it to them? Why risk using them after what happened with his orb? If he is trying to prevent them from obtaining the artifact, why not use his own agents? I definitely think he has been leaving a trail of breadcrumbs for Varric and Harding to follow, so I'm not convinced the mysterious shadow following them is actually a Venatori at all. Extra thought: Why aren't people in the city more worried about the Qunari at their gates? How did Varric and Harding manage to get in without being challenged? It would seem the defense of Tevinter is still abysmal.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 21, 2023 15:23:34 GMT
Hoping for a preview tomorrow! They usually post a week in advance
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 21, 2023 16:46:05 GMT
Hoping for a preview tomorrow! They usually post a week in advance I was expecting it this week because issue 2 came out on 22 February, so it will be 5 weeks until issue 3 rather than 4. Oh well, they say patience is a virtue. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png)
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 22, 2023 19:44:54 GMT
Hoping for a preview tomorrow! They usually post a week in advance I was expecting it this week because issue 2 came out on 22 February, so it will be 5 weeks until issue 3 rather than 4. Oh well, they say patience is a virtue. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png) Haha right? Feels like such a long wait - but I found a preview on dark horse: www.darkhorse.com/Comics/3010-536/Dragon-Age-The-Missing-3?PageSpeed=noscriptStrife and Irelin make an appearance! Interestingly enough, there’s a human among them.
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 22, 2023 19:59:47 GMT
Well, aside from the white hair, that's definitely not how I envisioned Strife. He looks more like a qunari than an elf. And yes, it appears that shit has indeed gotten very weird in Arlathan Forest.
(Also, Varric, why are you always interrupting Harding? That's very rude, you know.)
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Mar 22, 2023 20:09:01 GMT
But... Strife isn't supposed to have vallaslin 🤨
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 22, 2023 20:12:39 GMT
But... Strife isn't supposed to have vallaslin 🤨 Was that said? It’s been a while since I’ve read Tevinter Nights.
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 22, 2023 20:16:51 GMT
But... Strife isn't supposed to have vallaslin 🤨 Was that said? It’s been a while since I’ve read Tevinter Nights. According to the Wiki, that’s the case. I suppose he could have gotten the tattoos post-Tevinter Nights, or it's a continuity error. They look an awful lot like the tattoos corresponding to Andruil.
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Post by IlidanDA on Mar 22, 2023 20:20:14 GMT
Preview for New comic part 3: Source: Dark Horse Site
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Mar 22, 2023 20:21:46 GMT
I have to say, this is not how I imagined Strife to look like either. He does look like a hornless Qunari. He seems to be a lot bigger than the other elves, too.
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Post by Solas on Mar 22, 2023 21:18:29 GMT
I'm not surprised by Strife's appearance, he was specifically described as being tall and pretty muscley iirc in TN, also the story for me left an impression of strength like: didnt he basically haul Myrion along through the woods while they were being chased and at one point up a tree even, then while firing arrows while a Qunari arrow had punched through his back and was sticking out his gut like elf borommir ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png) its been a while since I read that short in Tevinter Nights but along with the description of him the impression I got of Strife from that story was one of physicality. also Andruil makes sense as a vallaslin choice, she comes up in that story and he mentions her. either a continuity error that he now has vallaslin, or in the time since then and now he has taken the decision to get vallaslin recently having been with Clan Morlyn for some time now. Irelin's look like June's design no? also I see varric is now in his Qui-Gon Jinn era.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Mar 22, 2023 21:29:04 GMT
also I see varric is now in his Qui-Gon Jinn era. Good thing nothing bad ever happened to that guy
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Post by Solas on Mar 22, 2023 21:29:32 GMT
also I see varric is now in his Qui-Gon Jinn era. Good thing nothing bad ever happened to that guy ![:crying:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/DXYvYKTKTfCBEhHGFvDL.png) ...
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Post by colfoley on Mar 22, 2023 21:32:37 GMT
Curious about the human in the group.
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 22, 2023 21:50:27 GMT
Good thing nothing bad ever happened to that guy Well, there are worse fates that can befall Star Wars characters, such as appearing in The Rise of Skywalker.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 22, 2023 21:52:17 GMT
Good thing nothing bad ever happened to that guy Well, there are worse fates that can befall Star Wars characters, such as appearing in The Rise of Skywalker. damn that's cold.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 22, 2023 22:23:33 GMT
Isn't Strife supposed to be a skinny old man? He looks more like Sten. Same personality, too (book Strife was very snarky).
I'm also curious as to why do they think they're more special than the average Dalish. Surely it can't be just because they're Veil Jumpers.
In any case, I find it interesting that Varric and Harding still introduce themselves as Inquisition members. Isn't it disbanded in this story? I guess @gervaise was right. Whatever happens, there will be at least a shadow Inquisition.
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Post by Solas on Mar 22, 2023 22:37:54 GMT
he's described as tall and strong, with a straight back and square shoulders, calloused hands, and being lean with long ropey muscle. he's older but not elderly. the elderly were put back into their homes, the able-bodied men including Strife were sent to work camps. is the apparent ability to jump back and forth across the barrier between worlds not just a bit special? ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 23, 2023 7:54:02 GMT
Okay, my immediate thoughts on this: First off Varric: Clearly the illustrator on this one also got the memo about the update to his appearance. No idea why the illustrator for Issue 1 didn't. Perhaps they did but ignored/didn't understand it. Anyway, we can definitely expect a revamped Varric next game. Second: I agree with the comment about Strife. He looks totally different to any of the elves we have encountered in game, which seems to confirm my suspicion that he is more likely some sort ancient elf who hooked up with a Dalish clan down south in the Freemarches claiming to be a city elf on the run from the authorities. He might well have fallen foul of city officials in Starkhaven but may be they found him suspicious too. On the whole ancient elves are taller and if he has been out of Uthenera for some years, then he would have aged. Most of the others we have encountered, including Solas, had only just awakened, or it had only been a few years since they had done so. I dare say if we had seen Felassan he would have looked more like Strife, having appeared on the scene at least 20 years prior to the events in Masked Empire. The fact that he looks so muscular would also fit with this hypothesis, considering some of the rock paintings show very buff looking elves in ancient times. They had dark skin too. It might also strengthen the theory that the Kossith were originally elves which were experimented upon with magic. Thirdly, unless it was an accidental error on the part of the illustrator (unlikely) then it seems that this group of elves are willing to work with humans. This also points to them not being regular Dalish, although as we know clans can vary in their attitude towards them. Of course, that doesn't rule out them being elf blooded and since I imagine a requirement for being a Veil Jumper is to be a mage, then they could simply be another refugee from the Qun where it was decided expedient to team up against a common foe. is the apparent ability to jump back and forth across the barrier between worlds not just a bit special? I wait to see exactly what being a Veil Jumper involves but there were aspects to being a Rift Mage and also some regular classes in DAI, such as Fade Step that actually were allowing you to do this in a limited way. It also formed the explanation for what Fenris was doing when using Lyrium Ghost. So, it may be simply a class that focuses on these aspects, possibly requiring special tattoos to do so. I await the full explanation with interest. However, it does point to them not being regular Dalish. I'm also curious as to why do they think they're more special than the average Dalish. Surely it can't be just because they're Veil Jumpers. I have never been convinced that their clan was "average Dalish" even in Tevinter Nights. Remember it may suit them to let people believe this. If people automatically assume they are Dalish (because of the face markings) then perhaps they don't usually deny it. If the non-elf does this, it could be to draw attention to the fact she is not an elf or that the others let her do the denial so that Varric/Harding assume this is the case. In terms of abilities, how many shapeshifters have we encountered among the Dalish? Even if the lore allows for it, Irelin seemed far more adapt than you would expect. Also, it has occurred to me that in Tevinter Nights the forms she adopts are actually those associated with the gods, a halla for Ghilan'nain/Andruil (the latter was given the halla by Ghilan'nain) and a white owl for Falon'Din (whilst you would normally think of a black owl, may be it is always white animals associated with the gods). The Veil Jumper part does make me very skeptical of this clan being Dalish. At the very least they have been separated from the Dalish down south for a considerable time. The lore has previously stated that the Dalish are very wary of any magic involving spirits, so I imagine that flipping in an out over the Veil would be off limits too. Now we know from Marethari that the Keepers do have the knowledge how to enter the Fade but it is probably something used only sparingly. Of course, it wouldn't be the first time that the writers decided to contradict previously established lore, particularly that found in the World of Thedas, but at the very least I won't be surprised if it turns out that some if not all of this group are not really Dalish. Additional thought: How did they manage to escape from Vyrantium by sea? The Qunari have a navy, that also falls under the Arishok. Does this confirm that the Arishok did not authorise the land invasion by the Antaam? Otherwise, if they were going to lay siege to the city, they would also blockade it on the seaward side. It seems to me that the writers (and that includes Bioware) know very little about conducting an effective military campaign.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 23, 2023 8:17:19 GMT
But... Strife isn't supposed to have vallaslin 🤨 May be he took the vallaslin in order to honour Andruil for his escape in Tevinter Nights. He did say to Myrion that if they survived it would be because of the skills taught to his people by Andruil. Also, may be they aren't permanent but simply used for expediency.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 23, 2023 8:43:13 GMT
According to the Wiki, that’s the case. I suppose he could have gotten the tattoos post-Tevinter Nights, or it's a continuity error. They look an awful lot like the tattoos corresponding to Andruil. See my previous comment. We know the Varric design was determined by Bioware, so I doubt Strife looks that way simply by accident. After all, even if the illustrator hadn't read Tevinter Nights and was just assuming Dalish have tattoos, why choose Andruil specifically for him? Also, considering how different he looks to regular elves, I imagine his whole design came specifically from Bioware.
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Post by Solas on Mar 23, 2023 10:11:42 GMT
It wouldnt be the first time the comics showed body diversity for modern elves. The Vaea comics did that a bit.
That said, I recall wondering at the time of TN if he was ancient. His name is a common tongue word, but being named a noun like Strife reminded me of Abelas (Sorrow) and Solas (Pride). He could be using the common translation to try to blend in some.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 23, 2023 10:31:08 GMT
Not feeling this artwork at all, so smudgy
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Mar 23, 2023 16:55:29 GMT
Regarding Strife's appearance, does anyone with Twitter or Mastodon (or whatever it is the hip people use these days) care to reach out to Patrick Weekes? He wrote Strife so he might be able to clear these things up for us.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 23, 2023 17:00:25 GMT
That said, I recall wondering at the time of TN if he was ancient. His name is a common tongue word, but being named a noun like Strife reminded me of Abelas (Sorrow) and Solas (Pride). He could be using the common translation to try to blend in some. That was another thing I thought odd if he was a simple city elf. That is not the sort of name found among them, nor would he have got it from the Dalish, as at the very least they would have made it elven. However, it is likely that if he did join a Dalish clan and said that was his name, they wouldn't question it because it was in common rather than elvish. Not knowing city elf traditions, they may have assumed that was a common form of name among them. He might even have said it was a nickname he was given because he was always causing trouble, which might well be true but not in modern times. It wouldnt be the first time the comics showed body diversity for modern elves. The Vaea comics did that a bit. I assume you are referring to the rather portly elf in Knight Errant. However, he was very much a background character. Strife is different. He is a main character who might well turn up again in DA:D, so the fact he is so distinctive I feel is more likely down to deliberate design that was laid down by Bioware.
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