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Post by Shinobu on Nov 6, 2022 20:31:34 GMT
I'm not even sure the Mudskipper is still in the game, as it may have been replaced by the SFX, but before my hopes are dashed tomorrow I thought I'd take a look at the turbo brick and see what it said to me. I have no insider information, I just assumed that everything I saw in the design was intentional and tried to figure out what it could mean, down to the paint color.
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 6, 2022 23:14:28 GMT
If they developed it further than concept art, a Mudskipper-like ship may still appear in the background, probably even used by other characters at least in a cutscene.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 6, 2022 23:24:15 GMT
The characters could also start out in the Musskipper, but something happens to it and they later get the SFX. Or the other way around.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 6, 2022 23:29:48 GMT
My theory is that the Mudskipper is from the Milky Way and the SFX from Andromeda.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 6, 2022 23:49:32 GMT
My theory is that the Mudskipper is from the Milky Way and the SFX from Andromeda. I agree. The SFX is in Tempest colors while the Mudskipper is in Earth military colors of the 21st century. I think both galaxies may need to work together to solve their various issues but we likely won't get to Andromeda until two games from now.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 6, 2022 23:53:00 GMT
The characters could also start out in the Musskipper, but something happens to it and they later get the SFX. Or the other way around. That's true. There seems to be crossover in the crews. The Krogan, possibly Liara, possibly an Angara, or Drell have been seen with both vessels.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 6, 2022 23:54:22 GMT
If they developed it further than concept art, a Mudskipper-like ship may still appear in the background, probably even used by other characters at least in a cutscene. It's designated XT8, so there might be seven more turbo-brick prototypes. 
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 7, 2022 0:09:38 GMT
My theory is that the Mudskipper is from the Milky Way and the SFX from Andromeda. I agree. The SFX is in Tempest colors while the Mudskipper is in Earth military colors of the 21st century. I think both galaxies may need to work together to solve their various issues but we likely won't get to Andromeda until two games from now. MEA is set 6 centuries after ME3, plenty of time for Milky Way to figure out building a Mass Relay to launch towards Andromeda.
My theory is Milky Way will desire teraforming technology from Andromeda, as galaxy is still reeling from Reaper War( it took centuries to recover from Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions), while Andromeda Initiative will be desperate for more people and security against Kett and other potential hostile factions.
It's possible geth will be key to this too, whatever if some managed to survive by escaping to Andromeda( Andromeda Initiative discovered Heleus Cluster thanks to geth observations) after Quarians crippled them in initial assault and before remaining geth( majority) made a deal with Reapers to survive. Or geth have indeed all perished, but with technology from Andromeda geth could be revived as they were with Reaper upgrades but without Reaper control.
All the while Kett and possibly Jardaan( we don't know they're good guys) and whoever is their enemy( whoever created the Scourge are likely powerful) will attempt to gain access to Mass Relay technology, so instead of brute force approach we may see our villains doing more subterfuge action!
But alas this is my theory and it's mainly backed by not being contradicted by existing information.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2022 0:24:02 GMT
My theory is that the Mudskipper is from the Milky Way and the SFX from Andromeda. I agree. The SFX is in Tempest colors while the Mudskipper is in Earth military colors of the 21st century. I think both galaxies may need to work together to solve their various issues but we likely won't get to Andromeda until two games from now. I think this might be how they bridge the galaxies in the next game.  We know from Mike that it's not a Mass Relay, so I'm guessing it's a ship (eg. Mass Runner). It could be built in the MW (over the last 600 years) or Andromeda (using MW + Jardaanian tech), but something capable of quick transgalactic travel. We've seen concept art for some very advanced civilizations... 
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 7, 2022 1:33:31 GMT
I agree. The SFX is in Tempest colors while the Mudskipper is in Earth military colors of the 21st century. I think both galaxies may need to work together to solve their various issues but we likely won't get to Andromeda until two games from now. MEA is set 6 centuries after ME3, plenty of time for Milky Way to figure out building a Mass Relay to launch towards Andromeda.
My theory is Milky Way will desire teraforming technology from Andromeda, as galaxy is still reeling from Reaper War( it took centuries to recover from Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions), while Andromeda Initiative will be desperate for more people and security against Kett and other potential hostile factions.
It's possible geth will be key to this too, whatever if some managed to survive by escaping to Andromeda( Andromeda Initiative discovered Heleus Cluster thanks to geth observations) after Quarians crippled them in initial assault and before remaining geth( majority) made a deal with Reapers to survive. Or geth have indeed all perished, but with technology from Andromeda geth could be revived as they were with Reaper upgrades but without Reaper control.
All the while Kett and possibly Jardaan( we don't know they're good guys) and whoever is their enemy( whoever created the Scourge are likely powerful) will attempt to gain access to Mass Relay technology, so instead of brute force approach we may see our villains doing more subterfuge action!
But alas this is my theory and it's mainly backed by not being contradicted by existing information.
I also think that the Milky Way/Andromeda galaxies each have what the other wants and the Geth will play an important role in reuniting the two. I do worry that it will be hard to reconcile Ryder and SAM casually putting the whole synthetic/organic conflict to bed through basically Synthesis with what has been going on in the Milky Way.
I like your ideas on the Jardaan and Kett. The Jardaan and Prothean architecture (or what we thought was Prothean but may be much older) look similar (geometric shapes with glowing lines) and may have come from the same source at some point, so that might be something else that ties the galaxies together. The glowy columns in the concept art have that look as well and I think the Mudskipper crew will go explore them to find useful tech.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 7, 2022 1:48:05 GMT
I agree. The SFX is in Tempest colors while the Mudskipper is in Earth military colors of the 21st century. I think both galaxies may need to work together to solve their various issues but we likely won't get to Andromeda until two games from now. I think this might be how they bridge the galaxies in the next game. We know from Mike that it's not a Mass Relay, so I'm guessing it's a ship (eg. Mass Runner). It could be built in the MW (over the last 600 years) or Andromeda (using MW + Jardaanian tech), but something capable of quick transgalactic travel. We've seen concept art for some very advanced civilizations... It's interesting that ship is in Cerberus colors. (I hope Cerberus doesn't make a comeback.) I'm having a hard time reconciling the scruffy army-surplus look of the Mudskipper with the shiny new MR7, which I also think is in the Milky Way. Is the whole Milky Way borked and using old tech like the Mudskipper, or is the Milky Way relatively prosperous and it's just the protagonist that has to use a clunky ship? Both the Mudskipper and the SFX are relatively small. I wonder if the intergalactic travel technology only allows small ships to go back and forth.
My guess is that advanced civilization in the image is a ruin (it looks like what we thought was Prothean but is likely older) that we are building on but still need to explore.
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Post by NotN7 on Nov 7, 2022 3:32:22 GMT
I think this might be how they bridge the galaxies in the next game. We know from Mike that it's not a Mass Relay, so I'm guessing it's a ship (eg. Mass Runner). It could be built in the MW (over the last 600 years) or Andromeda (using MW + Jardaanian tech), but something capable of quick transgalactic travel. We've seen concept art for some very advanced civilizations... It's interesting that ship is in Cerberus colors. (I hope Cerberus doesn't make a comeback.) I'm having a hard time reconciling the scruffy army-surplus look of the Mudskipper with the shiny new MR7, which I also think is in the Milky Way. Is the whole Milky Way borked and using old tech like the Mudskipper, or is the Milky Way relatively prosperous and it's just the protagonist that has to use a clunky ship? Both the Mudskipper and the SFX are relatively small. I wonder if the intergalactic travel technology only allows small ships to go back and forth.
My guess is that advanced civilization in the image is a ruin (it looks like what we thought was Prothean but is likely older) that we are building on but still need to explore.
After looking it over I'm not totally convinced that it is a ship but shrug what do I know, it's possible that it is a relay 7th in the series looking at the side of it you see a series of numbers 1 through 7 it got me thinking can't wait to learn what it really is.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 7, 2022 3:37:44 GMT
It's interesting that ship is in Cerberus colors. (I hope Cerberus doesn't make a comeback.) I'm having a hard time reconciling the scruffy army-surplus look of the Mudskipper with the shiny new MR7, which I also think is in the Milky Way. Is the whole Milky Way borked and using old tech like the Mudskipper, or is the Milky Way relatively prosperous and it's just the protagonist that has to use a clunky ship? Both the Mudskipper and the SFX are relatively small. I wonder if the intergalactic travel technology only allows small ships to go back and forth.
My guess is that advanced civilization in the image is a ruin (it looks like what we thought was Prothean but is likely older) that we are building on but still need to explore.
After looking it over I'm not totally convinced that it is a ship but shrug what do I know, it's possible that it is a relay 7th in the series looking at the side of it you see a series of numbers 1 through 7 it got me thinking can't wait to learn what it really is. If it's not a relay and not a ship, I suppose it could be a space station like Grissom Academy that has a spherical inset.
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Post by NotN7 on Nov 7, 2022 3:41:28 GMT
After looking it over I'm not totally convinced that it is a ship but shrug what do I know, it's possible that it is a relay 7th in the series looking at the side of it you see a series of numbers 1 through 7 it got me thinking can't wait to learn what it really is. If it's not a relay and not a ship, I suppose it could be a space station like Grissom Academy that has a spherical inset.
It could be but until we see the Game trailer/game guess we will never know 
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2022 4:08:13 GMT
After looking it over I'm not totally convinced that it is a ship but shrug what do I know, it's possible that it is a relay 7th in the series looking at the side of it you see a series of numbers 1 through 7 it got me thinking can't wait to learn what it really is. All we know for sure right now is that it's not a relay. Mike confirmed that himself. So I figure if it's not a relay... it's probably a ship of some kind. |
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2022 4:20:59 GMT
I think this might be how they bridge the galaxies in the next game. We know from Mike that it's not a Mass Relay, so I'm guessing it's a ship (eg. Mass Runner). It could be built in the MW (over the last 600 years) or Andromeda (using MW + Jardaanian tech), but something capable of quick transgalactic travel. We've seen concept art for some very advanced civilizations... It's interesting that ship is in Cerberus colors. (I hope Cerberus doesn't make a comeback.) I'm having a hard time reconciling the scruffy army-surplus look of the Mudskipper with the shiny new MR7, which I also think is in the Milky Way. Is the whole Milky Way borked and using old tech like the Mudskipper, or is the Milky Way relatively prosperous and it's just the protagonist that has to use a clunky ship? Both the Mudskipper and the SFX are relatively small. I wonder if the intergalactic travel technology only allows small ships to go back and forth.
If the MR7 is actually a transgalactic Mass Runner, it's the size of a capital ship and could easily hold a ship the size of the SFX. And let's say it's coming from the Andromeda side to reestablish ties with the MW. The MW looks like it's in rough shape based on the video and could explain the difference in tech we're seeing. If you look closely, you can see ships flying around, so it's not a ruin...
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Post by NotN7 on Nov 7, 2022 4:24:51 GMT
After looking it over I'm not totally convinced that it is a ship but shrug what do I know, it's possible that it is a relay 7th in the series looking at the side of it you see a series of numbers 1 through 7 it got me thinking can't wait to learn what it really is. All we know for sure right now is that it's not a relay. Mike confirmed that himself. So I figure if it's not a relay... it's probably a ship of some kind. Well, if it is a ship and looking at its design could be a mass effect relay hybrid type ship? i.e. a ship with its own relay incorporated to shorten travel between universes? I have seen some really strange space magic in my time 
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2022 4:29:39 GMT
All we know for sure right now is that it's not a relay. Mike confirmed that himself. So I figure if it's not a relay... it's probably a ship of some kind. Well, if it is a ship and looking at its design could be a mass effect relay hybrid type ship? i.e. a ship with its own relay incorporated to shorten travel between universes? I have seen some really strange space magic in my time Yeah, that's the idea... a "Mass Runner" orsomeotherR-word... And yeah... it's all space magic now.  (Honestly, it was always space magic...)
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 7, 2022 6:47:21 GMT
The xt8 designation gives the result of a telescope as someone has pointed out a while ago. So it could very well be from Andromeda. The teaser also strongly hints on that with it arriving on the mw, plus the crew.
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Post by NotN7 on Nov 7, 2022 8:17:33 GMT
The xt8 designation gives the result of a telescope as someone has pointed out a while ago. So it could very well be from Andromeda. The teaser also strongly hints on that with it arriving on the mw, plus the crew. That could very well be true but I'm thinking along the same lines as Shinobu the mud skipper is a ship taken out of moth balls cause of the destroy ending I don't think it's from Andromeda unless the devs are referring that the Quarin Ark made it to Andromeda since in the teaser there is a Drell among them otherwise to me that reads as MW so the SFX could be from Andromeda as one of the pictures above hints that the two universes have been connected  but what do I know 
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 8, 2022 4:48:41 GMT
It's interesting that ship is in Cerberus colors. (I hope Cerberus doesn't make a comeback.) I'm having a hard time reconciling the scruffy army-surplus look of the Mudskipper with the shiny new MR7, which I also think is in the Milky Way. Is the whole Milky Way borked and using old tech like the Mudskipper, or is the Milky Way relatively prosperous and it's just the protagonist that has to use a clunky ship? Both the Mudskipper and the SFX are relatively small. I wonder if the intergalactic travel technology only allows small ships to go back and forth.
If the MR7 is actually a transgalactic Mass Runner, it's the size of a capital ship and could easily hold a ship the size of the SFX. And let's say it's coming from the Andromeda side to reestablish ties with the MW. The MW looks like it's in rough shape based on the video and could explain the difference in tech we're seeing. If you look closely, you can see ships flying around, so it's not a ruin... Yes, you're right about the ships. I just mean it may be like the Citadel -- a place abandoned by its original owners that now has upstart races exploring/using it.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 8, 2022 4:51:44 GMT
The xt8 designation gives the result of a telescope as someone has pointed out a while ago. So it could very well be from Andromeda. The teaser also strongly hints on that with it arriving on the mw, plus the crew. That one guy could be Angara as I think you've pointed out before, and the human is wearing Andromeda Initiative bubble helmet, but the Drell is Milky Way, so maybe the crew will be a mixed group from both galaxies?
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 8, 2022 4:55:06 GMT
The xt8 designation gives the result of a telescope as someone has pointed out a while ago. So it could very well be from Andromeda. The teaser also strongly hints on that with it arriving on the mw, plus the crew. That could very well be true but I'm thinking along the same lines as Shinobu the mud skipper is a ship taken out of moth balls cause of the destroy ending I don't think it's from Andromeda unless the devs are referring that the Quarin Ark made it to Andromeda since in the teaser there is a Drell among them otherwise to me that reads as MW so the SFX could be from Andromeda as one of the pictures above hints that the two universes have been connected but what do I know  Now with the geth voice in the teaser, is it possible Destroy is not the ending of ME3? Or is it possible some geth were spared (for example by being on the Quarian Ark, being offline when the crucible was activated).
The shadow on the image of the MR7 looks like electrical interference. Could Shepard be a ghost in the machine (i.e., picked control)?
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Post by hulluliini on Nov 8, 2022 10:58:27 GMT
In my understanding, even Destroy cannot possibly destroy all synthetics because it seems to work through the relay system. You could fly away from a relay-linked system and avoid the destruction. There could be pockets of Geth isolated from the network?
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Post by lavigne on Nov 8, 2022 11:09:40 GMT
Everything that we know about the ending choices and what they entail, came from the Bratalyst. The Bratalyst had an agenda and likely over-egged the choice(s) it wanted Shepard to make, and over-dramatised the choice(s) it didn’t.
I wouldn’t take the full ramifications of any of the end choices at face value based on the source.
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but what do I know 
